Episode 8 - 7/18 Hometown dates - Discussion - Spoilers

northernviewer wrote:

onlyme wrote:

2observe wrote: Well imo, this just supports JP having a physical edit.

In my opinion the physical edit should be viewed differently for a male lead than a female lead. I get 'tricked' much more by a physical edit if it is FOR a female (i.e. Chantal). I believe when the lead is female, we can put more weight into the physical edit. I hope that makes sense.

I agree, and have mentioned this a few times this season and in seasons past. When girls commit to a guy physically, it's because she's emotionally attached first. Guys .... not so much :winkie: (Jilly is a bit of an exception once she got a few drinks in her)
So when we see Ashley draped all over JP, and how she's always touching him, and when she cradles his face with her hands...... that's an indication that he's her F1, not that she's just looking for a hot guy to cuddle to help pass the time during filming.

LOL just the idea of that is too hilarious for me to even take seriously in any capacity. Ashley is so sensitive and gets attached right away and it's not because she's some uncontrollable horndog. She's cuddly and affectionate because that's how she expresses her feelings and that's the kind of relationship she needs. I've mentioned this before but her love language is totally physical touch and affection.

ETA: Falling asleep in JP arms meant everything to her, so much so that she repeated it back to him in Phuket to gauge his reaction. She wanted to make sure that it meant as much to him too and that it was what he wanted too and of course he passed with his answer. Just another example of how she knew what and who she wanted early on.

Alanna wrote:

northernviewer wrote:

onlyme wrote:

2observe wrote: Well imo, this just supports JP having a physical edit.

In my opinion the physical edit should be viewed differently for a male lead than a female lead. I get 'tricked' much more by a physical edit if it is FOR a female (i.e. Chantal). I believe when the lead is female, we can put more weight into the physical edit. I hope that makes sense.

I agree, and have mentioned this a few times this season and in seasons past. When girls commit to a guy physically, it's because she's emotionally attached first. Guys .... not so much :winkie: (Jilly is a bit of an exception once she got a few drinks in her)
So when we see Ashley draped all over JP, and how she's always touching him, and when she cradles his face with her hands...... that's an indication that he's her F1, not that she's just looking for a hot guy to cuddle to help pass the time during filming.

LOL just the idea of that is too hilarious for me to even take seriously in any capacity. Ashley is so sensitive and gets attached right away and it's not because she's some uncontrollable horndog. She's cuddly and affectionate because that's how she expresses her feelings and that's the kind of relationship she needs. I've mentioned this before but her love language is totally physical touch and affection.

ETA: Falling asleep in JP arms meant everything to her, so much so that she repeated it back to him in Phuket to gauge his reaction. She wanted to make sure that it meant as much to him too and that it was what he wanted too and of course he passed with his answer. Just another example of how she knew what and who she wanted early on.

totally agree Alanna. She's totally transparent in how she feels. And when she said by HTD's she was 95% sure... I think she was being polite to the other guys. I think she had her mind made up after her second 1/1 with him.... and that date i'm willing to bet was supposed to originally go to Ryan but she got the producers to change it up so she could talk to JP about the whole Bentley issue.

Interesting conversation about JP and Ashley and the degree of intimacy they seem to have.

When I watched one of the latest previews with the scene between Ashley and Ben when she is rubbing the lotion on his chest, Ben asked if that was ok (or something to that effect). That seems odd to me and it seems odd to me because in this point in time if they were intimate or physically/emotionally close I do not think he would have to ask, he would know if it's ok. JMO of course and just a scene I have speculated on. Thoughts?

clueless wrote:Interesting conversation about JP and Ashley and the degree of intimacy they seem to have.

When I watched one of the latest previews with the scene between Ashley and Ben when she is rubbing the lotion on his chest, Ben asked if that was ok (or something to that effect). That seems odd to me and it seems odd to me because in this point in time if they were intimate or physically/emotionally close I do not think he would have to ask, he would know if it's ok. JMO of course and just a scene I have speculated on. Thoughts?

I mentioned, I think yesterday, that after rewatching that preview it wasn't as "hot" as I first thought. she's sitting back on his thighs and when she kisses him, it's her signature peck and then she very carefully got off of him. She does have to play a part on all these dates, just like all the other leads do, but IMO she's much less convincing than others have been.

Alanna wrote:

northernviewer wrote:

onlyme wrote:

2observe wrote: Well imo, this just supports JP having a physical edit.

In my opinion the physical edit should be viewed differently for a male lead than a female lead. I get 'tricked' much more by a physical edit if it is FOR a female (i.e. Chantal). I believe when the lead is female, we can put more weight into the physical edit. I hope that makes sense.

I agree, and have mentioned this a few times this season and in seasons past. When girls commit to a guy physically, it's because she's emotionally attached first. Guys .... not so much :winkie: (Jilly is a bit of an exception once she got a few drinks in her)
So when we see Ashley draped all over JP, and how she's always touching him, and when she cradles his face with her hands...... that's an indication that he's her F1, not that she's just looking for a hot guy to cuddle to help pass the time during filming.

LOL just the idea of that is too hilarious for me to even take seriously in any capacity. Ashley is so sensitive and gets attached right away and it's not because she's some uncontrollable horndog. She's cuddly and affectionate because that's how she expresses her feelings and that's the kind of relationship she needs. I've mentioned this before but her love language is totally physical touch and affection.

ETA: Falling asleep in JP arms meant everything to her, so much so that she repeated it back to him in Phuket to gauge his reaction. She wanted to make sure that it meant as much to him too and that it was what he wanted too and of course he passed with his answer. Just another example of how she knew what and who she wanted early on.

I loved it when he said, "That's the way its suppose to be."

northernviewer wrote:

clueless wrote:Interesting conversation about JP and Ashley and the degree of intimacy they seem to have.

When I watched one of the latest previews with the scene between Ashley and Ben when she is rubbing the lotion on his chest, Ben asked if that was ok (or something to that effect). That seems odd to me and it seems odd to me because in this point in time if they were intimate or physically/emotionally close I do not think he would have to ask, he would know if it's ok. JMO of course and just a scene I have speculated on. Thoughts?

I mentioned, I think yesterday, that after rewatching that preview it wasn't as "hot" as I first thought. she's sitting back on his thighs and when she kisses him, it's her signature peck and then she very carefully got off of him. She does have to play a part on all these dates, just like all the other leads do, but IMO she's much less convincing than others have been.

When he said that I wondered for a second if he was asking Ashley or if he was subconsciously asking if it's ok with JP that he's being rubbed down by Ash. Go ahead and throw stones, I can handle them just fine..

clueless wrote:Interesting conversation about JP and Ashley and the degree of intimacy they seem to have.

When I watched one of the latest previews with the scene between Ashley and Ben when she is rubbing the lotion on his chest, Ben asked if that was ok (or something to that effect). That seems odd to me and it seems odd to me because in this point in time if they were intimate or physically/emotionally close I do not think he would have to ask, he would know if it's ok. JMO of course and just a scene I have speculated on. Thoughts?

The extended preview has more. They must have been sunscreening each other & Ben had just turned over because he said something like "I like this side. I'm ok with it. Are you ok with it?". He was just being sweet and she not only made it clear she was okay with it but gave him a kiss and then said she takes her job very seriously. :laughingoutlou I'd hope any of these guys would be as sensitive because bathing suit to bathing suit is pretty intimate and there are cameras. You also never know if Ben was worried about a "reaction"? :halo:

It looks like they were having fun with it and a good rehearsal for the mud baths. :awesome:

twochicklets wrote:

Pattycake92 wrote:JPs mom sent some food with Ashley to take back to her hotel. I wonder how they kept JP from going to her hotel? Seems very tempting for them to spend some extra time together. Also, doesn't JP live in the city? I wish we could have seen his apartment.

I think they did spend time in NYC. I mentioned this right after the episode aired, but was shot down. While Ashley was on Ames' HTD, she said, "From NYC to this!" I though she had just flown in from JP's HTD and had mentioned NYC because it was fresh in her mind. IMO JP and Ashley spent some time in NYC later that evening of his HTD. People disagreed with me saying she meant it that Ames lived in NYC and there. (his HTD) If she brought leftovers back to her hotel...
Anyway I am not a Jp fan, nor Ben fan, nor Ashley fan. Merely a fan of the show, watching this season completely unbiased, I do care who the F1 is.

The bolded above is the key to knowing if JP and Ash got to spend more time together in NYC. How big was the package of leftovers? Was Mom R packing a late dinner for one or for two? Oh, the important questions we have to answer!

Beader, I hear ya. Did anyone see Ashley with a package that looked like food or any bags, getting into the car to leave, when JP leaned all the way in and kissed her?
If not, who and when did the leftovers get to her hotel? hmmmm I'd love to know that answer.

albean99 wrote:

clueless wrote:Interesting conversation about JP and Ashley and the degree of intimacy they seem to have.

When I watched one of the latest previews with the scene between Ashley and Ben when she is rubbing the lotion on his chest, Ben asked if that was ok (or something to that effect). That seems odd to me and it seems odd to me because in this point in time if they were intimate or physically/emotionally close I do not think he would have to ask, he would know if it's ok. JMO of course and just a scene I have speculated on. Thoughts?

The extended preview has more. They must have been sunscreening each other & Ben had just turned over because he said something like "I like this side. I'm ok with it. Are you ok with it?". He was just being sweet and she not only made it clear she was okay with it but gave him a kiss and then said she takes her job very seriously. :laughingoutlou I'd hope any of these guys would be as sensitive because bathing suit to bathing suit is pretty intimate and there are cameras. You also never know if Ben was worried about a "reaction"? :halo:

It looks like they were having fun with it and a good rehearsal for the mud baths. :awesome:

albean99 wrote:

clueless wrote:Interesting conversation about JP and Ashley and the degree of intimacy they seem to have.

When I watched one of the latest previews with the scene between Ashley and Ben when she is rubbing the lotion on his chest, Ben asked if that was ok (or something to that effect). That seems odd to me and it seems odd to me because in this point in time if they were intimate or physically/emotionally close I do not think he would have to ask, he would know if it's ok. JMO of course and just a scene I have speculated on. Thoughts?

The extended preview has more. They must have been sunscreening each other & Ben had just turned over because he said something like "I like this side. I'm ok with it. Are you ok with it?". He was just being sweet and she not only made it clear she was okay with it but gave him a kiss and then said she takes her job very seriously. :laughingoutlou I'd hope any of these guys would be as sensitive because bathing suit to bathing suit is pretty intimate and there are cameras. You also never know if Ben was worried about a "reaction"? :halo:

It looks like they were having fun with it and a good rehearsal for the mud baths. :awesome:

Gina wrote:Beader, I hear ya. Did anyone see Ashley with a package that looked like food or any bags, getting into the car to leave, when JP leaned all the way in and kissed her?
If not, who and when did the leftovers get to her hotel? hmmmm I'd love to know that answer.

Good question? I hope she didn't just forget them like I usually do my "doggie" bags! We know Ash loves her food and can afford to eat up.