Re: Final Rose Ceremony - Screencaps - Thread #3

[nutty1]

I have a question???

I was curious to know.....has there ever been a HTD where you have seen the lead leave the F1's house. I have heard a lot of talk of this, but was unsure of the conclusion??

Saw Brad leave Emily's.

It was implied, but we didn't actually see Brad leaving. :D

We saw them saying goodbye at the door. Close enough for me.

I'm torn on this because I do think the jaw looks like JP but agree that the height seems off. I think the guy getting off the plane seems like Ben but the watch could also be JP's who has a similar one. I also think that the guy we see holding hands with Ashley could be Ben, someone else, or 2 guys. We see a bit of white shirt peeking out his sleeve and a little white by the lapel but I swear that the DSG has a blue shirt and you can tell it's not white because of the contrast with the watch. IA that we need more previews to come to any conclusions about who is which guy and when they come.


Here's a suit/height comparison if it helps.

This was done early on for a pocket comparison which I think does look different at the bottom but also you can see the bit of white sleeve. Sometimes shirts do have a solid color and a striped collar.

I do believe that GSG is on the left. My post on why I don't believe GSG's SC's are flipped is in this link near the bottom of the page. In a nutshell her earrings are different so you can tell by that the the pics are not flipped. It's pretty compelling when you see the pics all together imo. http://bachandbachettefans.forumotion.com/t212p576-final-rose-ceremony-screencaps-discussion

The 2 bottom pics....same guy, correct, because of stripe in lining of suit??

I don't think that's a stripe but the sun reflecting on it, Nutty1. They look different to me. The bottom of the one is angled and the other is square to the bottom of the jacket.

You think that vertical stripe is a reflection? I don't know, I am thinking this is same guy.

[Fleurdesel]

I have a question???

I was curious to know.....has there ever been a HTD where you have seen the lead leave the F1's house. I have heard a lot of talk of this, but was unsure of the conclusion??

Saw Brad leave Emily's.

It was implied, but we didn't actually see Brad leaving. :D

We saw them saying goodbye at the door. Close enough for me.

I'm torn on this because I do think the jaw looks like JP but agree that the height seems off. I think the guy getting off the plane seems like Ben but the watch could also be JP's who has a similar one. I also think that the guy we see holding hands with Ashley could be Ben, someone else, or 2 guys. We see a bit of white shirt peeking out his sleeve and a little white by the lapel but I swear that the DSG has a blue shirt and you can tell it's not white because of the contrast with the watch. IA that we need more previews to come to any conclusions about who is which guy and when they come.


Here's a suit/height comparison if it helps.

This was done early on for a pocket comparison which I think does look different at the bottom but also you can see the bit of white sleeve. Sometimes shirts do have a solid color and a striped collar.

I do believe that GSG is on the left. My post on why I don't believe GSG's SC's are flipped is in this link near the bottom of the page. In a nutshell her earrings are different so you can tell by that the the pics are not flipped. It's pretty compelling when you see the pics all together imo. http://bachandbachettefans.forumotion.com/t212p576-final-rose-ceremony-screencaps-discussion

The 2 bottom pics....same guy, correct, because of stripe in lining of suit??

I don't think that's a stripe but the sun reflecting on it, Nutty1. They look different to me. The bottom of the one is angled and the other is square to the bottom of the jacket.

You think that vertical stripe is a reflection? I don't know, I am thinking this is same guy.

Look the same guy to me. SC of hands holding Ashley is definately Ben and I think the jawline is JP, no doubt in my mind. I do some amateur photography and depending on the angle this was taken, there could be a couple of inches difference in perception so I would go by jawline unless the guy is over 6 feet and you can see that Ashley would be looking more up. So far, do think JP is walking away... even though it's not what I would like to see....JMO JMO

[skitts]

Living - I'm so impressed with how quickly you found those screencaps!
I think striped shirt FRC guy matches JP!

1) Actually a poster up thread asked someone to do the SCs from Episode 2 RC.

2) The jawline matches both JP and Ryan, even Constantine, but the height is no way JP.
3) Of course we did not get the right angle for the jawline so at a different angle, it could even be Ben as the slip of flesh showing on top of the collar is hairless for most of the contestants even Constantine.
4) Height is exact and does not change. Even with Ashley's head bent when talking to JP, stripped shirt guy CANNOT be as short as JP.

I am going to go out on the "unpopular" limb with you. I think that JP is just to short to be the guy at the FRC. Ben is even too short to be the GSG. I do believe that Ben is the one getting off the plane. Thank you for posting those pictures. Putting them side by side helped a lot.

There is a significant height difference here:

[Guest]

I have a question???

I was curious to know.....has there ever been a HTD where you have seen the lead leave the F1's house. I have heard a lot of talk of this, but was unsure of the conclusion??

Saw Brad leave Emily's.

It was implied, but we didn't actually see Brad leaving. :D

We saw them saying goodbye at the door. Close enough for me.

I'm torn on this because I do think the jaw looks like JP but agree that the height seems off. I think the guy getting off the plane seems like Ben but the watch could also be JP's who has a similar one. I also think that the guy we see holding hands with Ashley could be Ben, someone else, or 2 guys. We see a bit of white shirt peeking out his sleeve and a little white by the lapel but I swear that the DSG has a blue shirt and you can tell it's not white because of the contrast with the watch. IA that we need more previews to come to any conclusions about who is which guy and when they come.


Here's a suit/height comparison if it helps.

This was done early on for a pocket comparison which I think does look different at the bottom but also you can see the bit of white sleeve. Sometimes shirts do have a solid color and a striped collar.

I do believe that GSG is on the left. My post on why I don't believe GSG's SC's are flipped is in this link near the bottom of the page. In a nutshell her earrings are different so you can tell by that the the pics are not flipped. It's pretty compelling when you see the pics all together imo. http://bachandbachettefans.forumotion.com/t212p576-final-rose-ceremony-screencaps-discussion

The 2 bottom pics....same guy, correct, because of stripe in lining of suit??

I don't think that's a stripe but the sun reflecting on it, Nutty1. They look different to me. The bottom of the one is angled and the other is square to the bottom of the jacket.

You think that vertical stripe is a reflection? I don't know, I am thinking this is same guy.

Look the same guy to me. SC of hands holding Ashley is definately Ben and I think the jawline is JP, no doubt in my mind. I do some amateur photography and depending on the angle this was taken, there could be a couple of inches difference in perception so I would go by jawline unless the guy is over 6 feet and you can see that Ashley would be looking more up. So far, do think JP is walking away... even though it's not what I would like to see....JMO JMO

I think the stripe is probably the interior of the pocket lining. On the first pick it is more noticeable because of hands in the pocket. The second his hands are out so it changes angles.

[Guest]

Living - I'm so impressed with how quickly you found those screencaps!
I think striped shirt FRC guy matches JP!

1) Actually a poster up thread asked someone to do the SCs from Episode 2 RC.

2) The jawline matches both JP and Ryan, even Constantine, but the height is no way JP.
3) Of course we did not get the right angle for the jawline so at a different angle, it could even be Ben as the slip of flesh showing on top of the collar is hairless for most of the contestants even Constantine.
4) Height is exact and does not change. Even with Ashley's head bent when talking to JP, stripped shirt guy CANNOT be as short as JP.

I am going to go out on the "unpopular" limb with you. I think that JP is just to short to be the guy at the FRC. Ben is even too short to be the GSG. I do believe that Ben is the one getting off the plane. Thank you for posting those pictures. Putting them side by side helped a lot.

There is a significant height difference here:

I was going back and forth from day to day. NV gotta a hold of me with a different screen shot of the beach. I do believe it is JP.

[nutty1]

Too many quotes...so I will just say I also thought it was the pocket lining.

[anders]

I've nothing that convinces me that DGS isn't Ben or that GSG isn't JP. Carry on.....

[Fleurdesel]

I've nothing that convinces me that DGS isn't Ben or that GSG isn't JP. Carry on.....

Well, we have Ben's watch and his hands that really look like it's him, don't they have been match up somewhere?... and jawline is JP, perfect match if you ask me ....the rest I'm not sure myself.... but I can understand that it's difficult to be 100% convinced, we go only by body parts :giggle:

[LibbyBell]

The SC of BSG getting off the plane has a shadow on the plane that doesn't seem to be BSG, is it maybe the pilot's shadow or a camera man? The shadow doesn't look like someone who is in motion. Am I crazy? Could it help figure out podition of plane or time of day if we knowwhere this person is located in relation to BSG.

The shadow moves with BSG in the video... it threw me off too for a while

First these SC is flipped
2) The cameraman is on the beach taking the picture from one angle.
3) The sun is from the side and behind, throwing a shadow of the obstacles that prevent the sun from shining through from another angle. So the sun may hit the man from side back, where you see between his legs while the photographer is in front where you do not see between his legs.

Did I get it out or get you more confused?

Do we need to start sleuthing what's between their legs now? I guess if we must! :bad girl:

I'll take one for the team and volunteer and volunteer to sleuth Ben!!

You going to measure the same way that Joey's tailor measured?!?

[anders]

I've seen nothing that convinces me that DGS isn't Ben or that GSG isn't JP. Carry on.....

Well, we have Ben's watch and his hands that really look like it's him, don't they have been match up somewhere?... and jawline is JP, perfect match if you ask me ....the rest I'm not sure myself.... but I can understand that it's difficult to be 100% convinced, we go only by body parts :giggle:

isn't that what I said - DSG is Ben, GSG is JP. :greenman:

[mnmhughes]

The SC of BSG getting off the plane has a shadow on the plane that doesn't seem to be BSG, is it maybe the pilot's shadow or a camera man? The shadow doesn't look like someone who is in motion. Am I crazy? Could it help figure out podition of plane or time of day if we knowwhere this person is located in relation to BSG.

The shadow moves with BSG in the video... it threw me off too for a while

First these SC is flipped
2) The cameraman is on the beach taking the picture from one angle.
3) The sun is from the side and behind, throwing a shadow of the obstacles that prevent the sun from shining through from another angle. So the sun may hit the man from side back, where you see between his legs while the photographer is in front where you do not see between his legs.

Did I get it out or get you more confused?

Do we need to start sleuthing what's between their legs now? I guess if we must! :bad girl:

I'll take one for the team and volunteer and volunteer to sleuth Ben!!

You going to measure the same way that Joey's tailor measured?!?

Um, I believe that she is!! :awesome:

[Fleurdesel]

I've seen nothing that convinces me that DGS isn't Ben or that GSG isn't JP. Carry on.....

Well, we have Ben's watch and his hands that really look like it's him, don't they have been match up somewhere?... and jawline is JP, perfect match if you ask me ....the rest I'm not sure myself.... but I can understand that it's difficult to be 100% convinced, we go only by body parts :giggle:

isn't that what I said - DSG is Ben, GSG is JP. :greenman:

Oui, my french does get in the way, sorry about that.... at least for me and for now until we get more SC, only 3 SC I'm sure of ... SC of guy stepping out of seaplace: BSG or Ben, SC of hands holding Ashley: BSG or Ben, SC of JP's talking to Ashley- the one with the jawline is JP or GSG. The SC of the one who is walking away, that one I'm not sure because Fleiss in the video preview is cutting from one scene to the next so it's quite difficult to know what is what.

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