Re: Final Rose Ceremony - Screencaps - Thread #3

[Bronwyn]

I don't see what the problem is. Those screencaps prove the only person striped shirt guy could be is JP. The jawlines are identical, and even the height difference between striped shirt guy and Ashley match up to JP and Ashley.

Unless JP grew by about 6inches for the FRC (maybe he felt so good he did), that is not JP. jaw or no jaw. Note, we do not have exact angles of the angle of the jaw line of FRC. The SC were done to
a) compare height,
b) prove that it does not have to be a shaven head to have no hair above the color,
c) See if though a different angle, we could see similarities between the contestants and FRC jawline. My take is Constantine, JP and Ryan all have similar jawlines for similar angles.

For height we have exact comparison. For jawline we do not have exact comparison.

Come on. There is not a 6 inch height difference. Any height difference, which is miniscule, can be explained by the heels of either of their shoes. The jawline is JP's, no one else's. In trying to prove it isn't JP, you've only proven it is JP.

[anders]

The SC of BSG getting off the plane has a shadow on the plane that doesn't seem to be BSG, is it maybe the pilot's shadow or a camera man? The shadow doesn't look like someone who is in motion. Am I crazy? Could it help figure out podition of plane or time of day if we knowwhere this person is located in relation to BSG.

The shadow moves with BSG in the video... it threw me off too for a while

First these SC is flipped
2) The cameraman is on the beach taking the picture from one angle.
3) The sun is from the side and behind, throwing a shadow of the obstacles that prevent the sun from shining through from another angle. So the sun may hit the man from side back, where you see between his legs while the photographer is in front where you do not see between his legs.

Did I get it out or get you more confused?

I thought there was lettering on the plane that proves those caps aren't flipped - yes I'm more confused.... :what:

[Living]

The SC of BSG getting off the plane has a shadow on the plane that doesn't seem to be BSG, is it maybe the pilot's shadow or a camera man? The shadow doesn't look like someone who is in motion. Am I crazy? Could it help figure out podition of plane or time of day if we knowwhere this person is located in relation to BSG.

The shadow moves with BSG in the video... it threw me off too for a while

First these SC is flipped
2) The cameraman is on the beach taking the picture from one angle.
3) The sun is from the side and behind, throwing a shadow of the obstacles that prevent the sun from shining through from another angle. So the sun may hit the man from side back, where you see between his legs while the photographer is in front where you do not see between his legs.

Did I get it out or get you more confused?

Do we need to start sleuthing what's between their legs now? I guess if we must!

Every little helps!

Nah!

[Chacharo]

Do we need to start sleuthing what's between their legs now? I guess if we must! :bad girl:

This comment is the reason I've spent the last 30 minutes reading about dead horses.

[gurlbrit]

The SC of BSG getting off the plane has a shadow on the plane that doesn't seem to be BSG, is it maybe the pilot's shadow or a camera man? The shadow doesn't look like someone who is in motion. Am I crazy? Could it help figure out podition of plane or time of day if we knowwhere this person is located in relation to BSG.

The shadow moves with BSG in the video... it threw me off too for a while

First these SC is flipped
2) The cameraman is on the beach taking the picture from one angle.
3) The sun is from the side and behind, throwing a shadow of the obstacles that prevent the sun from shining through from another angle. So the sun may hit the man from side back, where you see between his legs while the photographer is in front where you do not see between his legs.

Did I get it out or get you more confused?

I thought there was lettering on the plane that proves those caps aren't flipped - yes I'm more confused.... :what:

Anders there was in one SC we saw the words FIJI and it wasn't flipped.

[richmondrose]

I don't see what the problem is. Those screencaps prove the only person striped shirt guy could be is JP. The jawlines are identical, and even the height difference between striped shirt guy and Ashley match up to JP and Ashley.

Unless JP grew by about 6inches for the FRC (maybe he felt so good he did), that is not JP. jaw or no jaw. Note, we do not have exact angles of the angle of the jaw line of FRC. The SC were done to
a) compare height,
b) prove that it does not have to be a shaven head to have no hair above the color,
c) See if though a different angle, we could see similarities between the contestants and FRC jawline. My take is Constantine, JP and Ryan all have similar jawlines for similar angles.

For height we have exact comparison. For jawline we do not have exact comparison.

Come on. There is not a 6 inch height difference. Any height difference, which is miniscule, can be explained by the heels of either of their shoes. The jawline is JP's, no one else's. In trying to prove it isn't JP, you've only proven it is JP.

It's a matter of personal judgement at this point ... my husband ( who wouldn't know about TB if it hit him in the head) just peeked over at my computer to see what I was looking at and when I asked him which two matched, he pointed at Ryan. Myself, I can see it being either JP or Ryan ... it's just too hard to call at this point. However, I would never question someone elses opinion since what I see is my personal perception and others are entitled to theirs.

[Bronwyn]

I don't see what the problem is. Those screencaps prove the only person striped shirt guy could be is JP. The jawlines are identical, and even the height difference between striped shirt guy and Ashley match up to JP and Ashley.

Unless JP grew by about 6inches for the FRC (maybe he felt so good he did), that is not JP. jaw or no jaw. Note, we do not have exact angles of the angle of the jaw line of FRC. The SC were done to
a) compare height,
b) prove that it does not have to be a shaven head to have no hair above the color,
c) See if though a different angle, we could see similarities between the contestants and FRC jawline. My take is Constantine, JP and Ryan all have similar jawlines for similar angles.

For height we have exact comparison. For jawline we do not have exact comparison.

Come on. There is not a 6 inch height difference. Any height difference, which is miniscule, can be explained by the heels of either of their shoes. The jawline is JP's, no one else's. In trying to prove it isn't JP, you've only proven it is JP.

It's a matter of personal judgement at this point ... my husband ( who wouldn't know about TB if it hit him in the head) just peeked over at my computer to see what I was looking at and when I asked him which two matched, he pointed at Ryan. Myself, I can see it being either JP or Ryan ... it's just too hard to call at this point. However, I would never question someone elses opinion since what I see is my personal perception and others are entitled to theirs.

Except there is another screencap of Ashley and JP on the beach, that we know is JP for sure, and the screencap is from the same camera angle as the FRC shot, and the jawlines are identical.

[nutty1]

The SC of BSG getting off the plane has a shadow on the plane that doesn't seem to be BSG, is it maybe the pilot's shadow or a camera man? The shadow doesn't look like someone who is in motion. Am I crazy? Could it help figure out podition of plane or time of day if we knowwhere this person is located in relation to BSG.

The shadow moves with BSG in the video... it threw me off too for a while

First these SC is flipped
2) The cameraman is on the beach taking the picture from one angle.
3) The sun is from the side and behind, throwing a shadow of the obstacles that prevent the sun from shining through from another angle. So the sun may hit the man from side back, where you see between his legs while the photographer is in front where you do not see between his legs.

Did I get it out or get you more confused?

Do we need to start sleuthing what's between their legs now? I guess if we must! :bad girl:

I'll take one for the team and volunteer and volunteer to sleuth Ben!!

[nutty1]

I have a question???

I was curious to know.....has there ever been a HTD where you have seen the lead leave the F1's house. I have heard a lot of talk of this, but was unsure of the conclusion??

Saw Brad leave Emily's.

It was implied, but we didn't actually see Brad leaving. :D

We saw them saying goodbye at the door. Close enough for me.

I'm torn on this because I do think the jaw looks like JP but agree that the height seems off. I think the guy getting off the plane seems like Ben but the watch could also be JP's who has a similar one. I also think that the guy we see holding hands with Ashley could be Ben, someone else, or 2 guys. We see a bit of white shirt peeking out his sleeve and a little white by the lapel but I swear that the DSG has a blue shirt and you can tell it's not white because of the contrast with the watch. IA that we need more previews to come to any conclusions about who is which guy and when they come.


Here's a suit/height comparison if it helps.

This was done early on for a pocket comparison which I think does look different at the bottom but also you can see the bit of white sleeve. Sometimes shirts do have a solid color and a striped collar.

I do believe that GSG is on the left. My post on why I don't believe GSG's SC's are flipped is in this link near the bottom of the page. In a nutshell her earrings are different so you can tell by that the the pics are not flipped. It's pretty compelling when you see the pics all together imo. http://bachandbachettefans.forumotion.com/t212p576-final-rose-ceremony-screencaps-discussion

The 2 bottom pics....same guy, correct, because of stripe in lining of suit??

[mnmhughes]

The SC of BSG getting off the plane has a shadow on the plane that doesn't seem to be BSG, is it maybe the pilot's shadow or a camera man? The shadow doesn't look like someone who is in motion. Am I crazy? Could it help figure out podition of plane or time of day if we knowwhere this person is located in relation to BSG.

The shadow moves with BSG in the video... it threw me off too for a while

First these SC is flipped
2) The cameraman is on the beach taking the picture from one angle.
3) The sun is from the side and behind, throwing a shadow of the obstacles that prevent the sun from shining through from another angle. So the sun may hit the man from side back, where you see between his legs while the photographer is in front where you do not see between his legs.

Did I get it out or get you more confused?

Do we need to start sleuthing what's between their legs now? I guess if we must! :bad girl:

I'll take one for the team and volunteer and volunteer to sleuth Ben!!

You're so selfless, nutty1! :missclap:

[albean99]

I have a question???

I was curious to know.....has there ever been a HTD where you have seen the lead leave the F1's house. I have heard a lot of talk of this, but was unsure of the conclusion??

Saw Brad leave Emily's.

It was implied, but we didn't actually see Brad leaving. :D

We saw them saying goodbye at the door. Close enough for me.

I'm torn on this because I do think the jaw looks like JP but agree that the height seems off. I think the guy getting off the plane seems like Ben but the watch could also be JP's who has a similar one. I also think that the guy we see holding hands with Ashley could be Ben, someone else, or 2 guys. We see a bit of white shirt peeking out his sleeve and a little white by the lapel but I swear that the DSG has a blue shirt and you can tell it's not white because of the contrast with the watch. IA that we need more previews to come to any conclusions about who is which guy and when they come.


Here's a suit/height comparison if it helps.

This was done early on for a pocket comparison which I think does look different at the bottom but also you can see the bit of white sleeve. Sometimes shirts do have a solid color and a striped collar.

I do believe that GSG is on the left. My post on why I don't believe GSG's SC's are flipped is in this link near the bottom of the page. In a nutshell her earrings are different so you can tell by that the the pics are not flipped. It's pretty compelling when you see the pics all together imo. http://bachandbachettefans.forumotion.com/t212p576-final-rose-ceremony-screencaps-discussion

The 2 bottom pics....same guy, correct, because of stripe in lining of suit??

I don't think that's a stripe but the sun reflecting on it, Nutty1. They look different to me. The bottom of the one is angled and the other is square to the bottom of the jacket.

[richmondrose]

I don't see what the problem is. Those screencaps prove the only person striped shirt guy could be is JP. The jawlines are identical, and even the height difference between striped shirt guy and Ashley match up to JP and Ashley.

Unless JP grew by about 6inches for the FRC (maybe he felt so good he did), that is not JP. jaw or no jaw. Note, we do not have exact angles of the angle of the jaw line of FRC. The SC were done to
a) compare height,
b) prove that it does not have to be a shaven head to have no hair above the color,
c) See if though a different angle, we could see similarities between the contestants and FRC jawline. My take is Constantine, JP and Ryan all have similar jawlines for similar angles.

For height we have exact comparison. For jawline we do not have exact comparison.

Come on. There is not a 6 inch height difference. Any height difference, which is miniscule, can be explained by the heels of either of their shoes. The jawline is JP's, no one else's. In trying to prove it isn't JP, you've only proven it is JP.

It's a matter of personal judgement at this point ... my husband ( who wouldn't know about TB if it hit him in the head) just peeked over at my computer to see what I was looking at and when I asked him which two matched, he pointed at Ryan. Myself, I can see it being either JP or Ryan ... it's just too hard to call at this point. However, I would never question someone elses opinion since what I see is my personal perception and others are entitled to theirs.

Except there is another screencap of Ashley and JP on the beach, that we know is JP for sure, and the screencap is from the same camera angle as the FRC shot, and the jawlines are identical.

They may well be in your opinion, but I'm just pointing our that for whatever reasons, others see it differently ... sometimes it's just better to have an open mind.IMHO

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