Re: Final Rose Ceremony - Screencaps - Thread #3

[Samantharose]

Well Roberto never walk around Ali to propose he propose right where he was in front of her

Maybe JP felt sorry for her having to continuously push her hair out of her eyes so he changed positions out of consideration for her? it's not like he has to worry about his hair This way the sun isn't in her eyes.... and it won't be in his eyes once he goes down on one knee to propose either :blinkingheart:

That is so sweet!! I just can't see him walking away from her. He wears his emotions on his sleeve about her.

[mnmhughes]

Well Roberto never walk around Ali to propose he propose right where he was in front of her

Maybe JP felt sorry for her having to continuously push her hair out of her eyes so he changed positions out of consideration for her? it's not like he has to worry about his hair This way the sun isn't in her eyes.... and it won't be in his eyes once he goes down on one knee to propose either :blinkingheart:

I had that same thought too, but I'm sure I'll be accused of wearing Rosenbaum - colored glasses!

[Living]

Seems like a lot of great work has been done on this so I'm not sure whether what follows is going to be contribution or not, never mind a big find, but here goes. Let's assume for the moment that we are seeing two guys at the FRC

Now .... in the PIs (wearing the same dress), Ashley's hair is parted on the right. These images are not flipped because her left ear still has the dark pearl earring in it and her right hand has no tattoo. If it were flipped, her hand raised in the sc below would have a tattoo on it.




So, … (dot, dot, dot ) I know I'm on shaky ground when it comes to hairstyling but IMHO Ashley's hair is parted on the left for both GSG and DSG and when she is chasing after run away guy, but parted on the other side for the PI. It seems strange to repart (is that a word?) her hair for an emotional moment after F1 departs (seems like you would want to capture the moment), and also a little unlikely that they changed her parting after an emotional departure of F2 (again capture the moment) only to move the parting back to the left again for the arrival of F1 (but perhaps not impossible)
So now for a little speculation. In the "I woke up this morning" PI we don't see Ashley actually say what went wrong, only that something happened to screw things up. The other stuff about being alone and her heart being broken are voice-overs from the Bentley fiasco, I think. Although I haven't looked into it fully - the light, sky and water look a little like the morning to me (ie. before going to hair styling for the FRC and the arrival of F2 - do they do makeup and then hair, or hair and then makeup?). Anything could have gone wrong - plane issues, someone decided not to come, too windy to land in the water, someone got hurt?

All this is my best guess, for now. Hope it added something.

I believe it is the wind sweeping her hair to the left. She normally has the part to her left.

Ashley's hair for her PI look rather all over the place. I do not believe that is how it was styled for the FRC. It is possible in the shrubs out of the wind, she was able to sweep the bangs to the right, but not put a brush through it. So the PI could be between F1 and F2.

[nutty1]

It is interesting because now it looks like we have them both on the left side!

Are we absolutely positive we are seeing two guys and not just one?

If we were going on just the suit, I'd say it's a possibility, but we seem to have Ben's watch and JP's chin at the RC location, so going on that, I'd say there are 2 people at the FRC.

I still say it's Ben, but more because of the thumbs. I think the watch isn't 100%, because JP has a similar one.

[jelle]

This cap makes it look like she and JP are walking side by side. Is she escorting him out? or is it another illusion.

Mr. W - I like your theory that something happened before either guy comes. What I think, most importantly, it reflects that we arent sure the order in which things happen with whom. Does the scenario suggest that she escorts both guys out?

Also .... would you please find the yellow crab lamp? I am sure it has absolutely no significance and is probably in some obscure hotel.

[Jeepers]

Well Roberto never walk around Ali to propose he propose right where he was in front of her

Maybe JP felt sorry for her having to continuously push her hair out of her eyes so he changed positions out of consideration for her? it's not like he has to worry about his hair This way the sun isn't in her eyes.... and it won't be in his eyes once he goes down on one knee to propose either :blinkingheart:

I had that same thought too, but I'm sure I'll be accused of wearing Rosenbaum - colored glasses!

Just as long as they aren't green LOL

[Cecilia]

IMO that clip is JP. I'm sure someone already said this but - couldn't it just be him taking his place in front of her. He walks up and then turns towards her. Why do people think he is walking away?

[anders]

IMO that clip is JP. I'm sure someone already said this but - couldn't it just be him taking his place in front of her. He walks up and then turns towards her. Why do people think he is walking away?

because when you watch the live action video - he appears to be walking away.

[Rosepetal]

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This has been bothering me for a couple of weeks when people say JP is leaving. There is only one way to the FRC platform. Look at the orientation of the platform walkway. JP would have to be almost in back of Ashley to walk back past her to the walkway to leave. I just don’t see it. Am I crazy?

[noobsleuth]

IMO that clip is JP. I'm sure someone already said this but - couldn't it just be him taking his place in front of her. He walks up and then turns towards her. Why do people think he is walking away?

He's coming to find me? oops *slap* wake up noob. lol

I have no clue... even if she "eliminated him" she would still walk him out... not just stand there and let him walk away.

We know they reshoot these proposals like 5 times... do they ever use reshot material in the previews to fool with everyone.

"alright everyone take 5... we'll come back to this later then the lighting is better and the wind has died down"

[Mr Write]

thanks Mr Write for confirming what we've been thinking. As to her hair "part" - in the ones where it's over to the left, that's the winds doing, not her hairstyle. She wears her bangs to the right (us looking at her) that never changes).

I will bow to everyone's expertise on this and agree that she normally parts her hair on her right, but I think sometimes when others style her hair, they switch her parting - see below. There are also images of her with hair parted down the middle. With the wind blowing from behind her at the FRC and wanting to see her left hand it makes sense to part on the left -JMHO.

[Mr Write]

This cap makes it look like she and JP are walking side by side. Is she escorting him out? or is it another illusion.

Mr. W - I like your theory that something happened before either guy comes. What I think, most importantly, it reflects that we arent sure the order in which things happen with whom. Does the scenario suggest that she escorts both guys out?

Also .... would you please find the yellow crab lamp? I am sure it has absolutely no significance and is probably in some obscure hotel.

I am not sure what it suggests, but I think the PI happens out of sequence (ie before, after or conceivable on different day from the FRC)
What is the yellow crab lamp?

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