Re: Final Rose Ceremony - Screencaps - Thread #3

by Rosepetal Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:25 pm

northernviewer wrote:
Fleurdesel wrote:
northernviewer wrote:I'm seeing the sun as having lowered in the first sc of Ash and who I think is JP as the sun is just on one side of her face and the other side is in shadows, but in the second sc with who we think is JP , the sun is still pretty much overhead as you can see with the shadow of her arm on her dress... this is much more conistant with the shadows of her running after the guys, which are all pretty much in overhead position.

Second SC of Ashley's holding hands, I thaught this was confirmed as Ben's? :greenman:

it is, and that was my point, Ben's sc is more consistant the time of the plane leaving or arriving and the guy walking away. I don't communicate my thoughts very well, sorry!

Here is another sceencap notice sun on her forearm and cheek.
Final Rose Ceremony - Screencaps - Thread #3 - Page 25 Sunforearm

by Fleurdesel Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:29 pm

northernviewer wrote:
Fleurdesel wrote:
northernviewer wrote:I'm seeing the sun as having lowered in the first sc of Ash and who I think is JP as the sun is just on one side of her face and the other side is in shadows, but in the second sc with who we think is JP , the sun is still pretty much overhead as you can see with the shadow of her arm on her dress... this is much more conistant with the shadows of her running after the guys, which are all pretty much in overhead position.

Second SC of Ashley's holding hands, I thaught this was confirmed as Ben's? :greenman:

it is, and that was my point, Ben's sc is more consistant the time of the plane leaving or arriving and the guy walking away. I don't communicate my thoughts very well, sorry!

Get it, don't be sorry :giggle: I do agree with you, 2nd SC of Ben, sun looks to be in overhead position and correspond with Ashley's arm shadow on her and you can see from the sky (in other SC), the ocean, that is quite bright out there, the water is sparkling and of that turquoise blue that you get when the sun is brightly shining..

by mrsbatonmom Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:32 pm

Ok....throwing something new out here. I agree with some that say Ashley looks heartbroken when talking to GSG (JP?) at the FRC. Thinking back I do remember Ashley saying something in her first 1:1 with JP that how would she know he would not break up with her? This has stuck with me since then. I have learned from all you great boarders that you have to look at the story they are trying to tell and that the clues are there, you just have to look for them. I now believe at this point JP may be trying to leave Ashley......now here is what I am not sure of.....Does she chase after him to tell him "Hey bud I am the lead and you can't do that" or Does she chase after him because he is indeed final 1? I guess we wont know for sure until the first guy gets off the plane at the final 1. I know I could be way off base but just a new possible scenario. Any thoughts?

by Diana Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:36 pm

Rosepetal wrote:

Am the only one who think she really looks in love/emotional in this photo not depressed? Maybe my eyes are deciving me. hmmm

by Alanna Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:38 pm

Diana wrote:
Rosepetal wrote:
Am the only one who think she really looks in love/emotional in this photo not depressed? Maybe my eyes are deciving me.

You're not alone. She's mesmerized :smooch:

by Guest Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:40 pm

Diana wrote:
Rosepetal wrote:
Am the only one who think she really looks in love/emotional in this photo not depressed? Maybe my eyes are deciving me.

You're not alone. I edited my post because I thought this was a different cap.

by albean99 Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:42 pm

Diana wrote:
Rosepetal wrote:
Am the only one who think she really looks in love/emotional in this photo not depressed? Maybe my eyes are deciving me.

I don't know about your eyes but Ashley's eyes look sad to me. giggling

Sorry, couldn't resist. I see the glint of tears and they don't seem happy to me. He's walking away and whether it's his choice or hers, she looks sad about it.

It does appear lighter when Ben's there but don't think we can tell for sure because they're giving us nothing with the mostly head shots with JP. They're not letting us see the clouds or the shadows. It's all so deceptive so we need more previews. Maybe after the FDs?

by Guest Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:44 pm

Diana wrote:
Rosepetal wrote:
Am the only one who think she really looks in love/emotional in this photo not depressed? Maybe my eyes are deciving me.

Yup, I posted earlier here somewhere that I thought she looked touched or moved by what was being said to her. Admittedly it is next to impossible to be able to be at all certain what we are reading in an expression caught in one still shot, but that is the way her expression always struck me.

by Guest Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:48 pm

albean99 wrote:
Diana wrote:
Rosepetal wrote:
Am the only one who think she really looks in love/emotional in this photo not depressed? Maybe my eyes are deciving me.

I don't know about your eyes but Ashley's eyes look sad to me. Sorry, couldn't resist. I see the glint of tears and they don't seem happy to me. He's walking away and whether it's his choice or hers, she looks sad about it.

It does appear lighter when Ben's there but don't think we can tell for sure because they're giving us nothing with the mostly head shots with JP. They're not letting us see the clouds or the shadows. It's all so deceptive so we need more previews. Maybe after the FDs?

I think the one thing that makes me think she is moved and in a good way, not a bad one, is the lack of tension on her face in this shot. As Alanna stated above, to me she appears to be mesmerized. She doesn't look stressed or tense at all in that moment. JMO

by Fleurdesel Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:48 pm

albean99 wrote:
Diana wrote:
Rosepetal wrote:
Am the only one who think she really looks in love/emotional in this photo not depressed? Maybe my eyes are deciving me.

I don't know about your eyes but Ashley's eyes look sad to me. Sorry, couldn't resist. I see the glint of tears and they don't seem happy to me. He's walking away and whether it's his choice or hers, she looks sad about it.

It does appear lighter when Ben's there but don't think we can tell for sure because they're giving us nothing with the mostly head shots with JP. They're not letting us see the clouds or the shadows. It's all so deceptive so we need more previews. Maybe after the FDs?

Fleiss has to keep us guessing, doesn't he? giggling

When I viewed the clip "TIme to meet the parents" and there was again that scene when she's looking at JP, in the SC, I see her sad but when I viewed it and we only see it for seconds, I taught I was going mad because I saw a hint of smile... a hint and I don't see that in the SC! More confused than ever...

by Bloomers Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:49 pm

This may totally not have anything to do with the price of eggs, but I remember during the Brad season #1 when we were debating the sun and shadows things, and finally we had a professional's opinion - yes, actually a professional photographer, somebody who makes his living in photography weigh in on the pictures.

When push came to shove, the professional photographer was WRONG.

The person who ended up being correct was a poster who lived in that area (FRC was not filmed in foreign location) and who was familiar with exactly how the sun and shadows reacted for that area.

Also, that season Jenni was undeniably the fan favorite. There was a poster who had a source who had been a former bachelor contestant and was a close friend of her husband. He had connections, and he told our poster that Jenni was F1. She was confident and was happily posting that daily.
She came back on the board and humbly apologized for misleading everybody and explained that she wanted Jenni to win so badly that her friend said he didn't have the "heart to disappoint her, so he let her think that Jenni won."
Everybody forgave the poster because she so humbly apologized. It was over and done.

Just thought I would throw lessons from the past out there for whatever they might or might not be worth.

by cupcakes Sat Jul 16, 2011 2:02 pm

JBanana wrote:
kdubs_ca wrote:
bluwavz wrote:
Pattycake92 wrote:That chin and cheek belong to JP and anyway, what would Ryan be doing at the FRC? She couldn't even make it through a whole date with him.

Although I agree the guy in the screen capture is JP, I can almost believe Ryan would be at the FRC based on the preview when she said she woke up thinking it was going to be a great day, but then it was ruined.

That made me LOL, seriously. But, I don't think he'd be there in a suit. More likely scuba gear, popping up from the middle of the ocean. Or maybe covered in a fishing net, hiding out in one of those boats.

JP: Uh, Ashley, cupcake? I don't mean to stress you out on our big day or anything... but it looks like someone's in the water behind you..
Ashley: oh, no... not again...

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