Couples Therapy - Season 5 - Premier Sept 10 2014 - General Discussion

I am doing the I was right dance. Nikki and JPG have different love languages. She needs to hear it in words, he is an act of service person. They need to learn to communicate in each others language.

I also think that JPG didn't believe Nikki when she said ILY. To him it was so fast and she doesn't follow it up by showing it.

Jenna was the one making fun of Nikki.

Cecily and Nikki are saying the same thing over and over and not listening.

Still watching.

Am I the only person who wants to scream at Cecily that yes Treach did cheat, but you were actually one of the people who helped him cheat to begin with? So get over your self.

Please God, now that Treach said he was sorry, can we not hear her talk about him cheating ever again? Please?

My husband laughs at the side boob concept all the time.

Jenna just because people have seen you naked, they don't need to see you anymore. I kind of agree with that concept.

Jenna is told to speak pleasantly, then she accuses him of wanting to be with the other people instead of asking nicely? I honestly don't know how anyone can stay with Jenna. I feel really bad for her for the past, but she needs real help to be able to be in a relationship without torturing the other person.

I kind of have to agree, I do think Nikki is a little spoiled.

And yes, I am going to get tomatoes, but I thought it was sweet of JPG to express so much for Evel.

No tomatoes... that's a side of jP that makes it more confusing for Nikki. He's not cold hearted. (though Clare would disagree) Jenna made me laugh with the brat comment and beating it out of JP. Nikki got her answer last week, finally.. thanks to the human lie detector lady so I was expecting/hoping to see her debating what to do with his answer. She either leaves or accepts that he needs more time. But no..... it just continues down the same path.

What did Jenna say that was bleeped out? She said she was ra*ed twice but in the preview seems to be describing a 3rd time. Dick made a comment about her coming down off of drugs. She's obviously a very damaged soul, but are we seeing just that or her on drugs trying to describe her experience? To fully deal with it she would need to be sober and I can't tell if she is.  

grace8136 wrote:No tomatoes... that's a side of jP that makes it more confusing for Nikki. He's not cold hearted. (though Clare would disagree) Jenna made me laugh with the brat comment and beating it out of JP. Nikki got her answer last week, finally.. thanks to the human lie detector lady so I was expecting/hoping to see her debating what to do with his answer. She either leaves or accepts that he needs more time. But no..... it just continues down the same path.

What did Jenna say that was bleeped out? She said she was ra*ed twice but in the preview seems to be describing a 3rd time. Dick made a comment about her coming down off of drugs. She's obviously a very damaged soul, but are we seeing just that or her on drugs trying to describe her experience? To fully deal with it she would need to be sober and I can't tell if she is.  

I agree, Jenna is hard to peg. I think that long term us of drugs can increase the kind of behavior we are seeing. I really think she needs some serious help before she can be in any relationship. John seems like a decent guy, but no one can be expected to take that much without cracking.

This will sound mean, but with people in my life, I have found that some people lie so much and so easily they actually believe what they say is true. I am not sure what is true or false with Jenna.

grace8136 wrote:No tomatoes... that's a side of jP that makes it more confusing for Nikki. He's not cold hearted. (though Clare would disagree) Jenna made me laugh with the brat comment and beating it out of JP. Nikki got her answer last week, finally.. thanks to the human lie detector lady so I was expecting/hoping to see her debating what to do with his answer. She either leaves or accepts that he needs more time. But no..... it just continues down the same path.

What did Jenna say that was bleeped out? She said she was ra*ed twice but in the preview seems to be describing a 3rd time. Dick made a comment about her coming down off of drugs. She's obviously a very damaged soul, but are we seeing just that or her on drugs trying to describe her experience? To fully deal with it she would need to be sober and I can't tell if she is.  

She was ra*ed twice. I think she was describing the 1st time in the preview. You can read about it on her wikipedia entry, she's discussed it in her book and on E! True Hollywood Story before. I think they bleeped out the name of the man who did it the second time, since he's denied it publicly and they don't want any lawyers after them.

As for the first part of your post, I so agree. Yes, obviously Nikki wants him to feel it, but he's not gonna just because she wants him to. No amount of playing the victim is gonna change how he feels. It needs to come naturally and I kinda doubt it ever will, but she just needs to deal with the situation as it is or dump him. She didn't have to accept that rose, she chose to. Then she chose to act like all is well on ATFR, even though deep down she felt humiliated. No matter how I feel about JPG, he didn't force her to do anything, so she needs to quit whining. I have to agree with Jenna; she is a bit dense. Or just very naive and self-centered. Can't really blame JPG for doubting her feelings when she acts so unemotional most of the time. Irritation seems to be the only emotion she can muster up in her meme world. I do like how no one's buying JPG's language excuse though. Dude, she knows you like her a lot, but you said it yourself you don't love her! Nothing's lost in translation!

I'm more and more convinced Stephanie is just a random person Dick hired to play his gf, so he could get on TV again to announce his big secret. She couldn't have shown less emotion while he was talking about it. Weird.

mindless wrote:... obviously Nikki wants him to feel it, but he's not gonna just because she wants him to. No amount of playing the victim is gonna change how he feels. It needs to come naturally and I kinda doubt it ever will, but she just needs to deal with the situation as it is or dump him. She didn't have to accept that rose, she chose to. Then she chose to act like all is well on ATFR, even though deep down she felt humiliated. No matter how I feel about JPG, he didn't force her to do anything, so she needs to quit whining. I have to agree with Jenna; she is a bit dense. Or just very naive and self-centered. Can't really blame JPG for doubting her feelings when she acts so unemotional most of the time. Irritation seems to be the only emotion she can muster up in her meme world. I do like how no one's buying JPG's language excuse though. Dude, she knows you like her a lot, but you said it yourself you don't love her! Nothing's lost in translation!

Much of Nikki's frustration is self-inflicted by the choices she made all the way back to the ATFR (assuming that she didn't really know that all she was going to get at the FRC was a rose and an "I like you a lot" and this was plausibly a surprise to her at the time). But since then it has been her choice to stick it out with JPG. This is not a cultural difference issue - JPG just doesn't love her and as Jenna said - sooner or later Nikki needs to come to that realization and react to it. At least she seems to be showing good sense in not being interested in uprooting her ties to KC and her job by considering a move to either Miami or LA so I guess as long as she's emotionally OK with being in like with JPG she's not putting much on the line to lose.

mindless wrote:I'm more and more convinced Stephanie is just a random person Dick hired to play his gf, so he could get on TV again to announce his big secret. She couldn't have shown less emotion while he was talking about it. Weird.

I think you're more or less right on the mark here. According to this article Dick got Stephaine Rogness-Fischer (a friend of a friend who needed the money) to appear as his "ex girlfriend". At the last minute she got cold feet and they gave her a bump in pay so they wouldn't end up with another Farrah situation this season. Apparently Dick got most of the money anyway. As it appears she is really a "fake girlfriend" it's not surprising she shows little emotion towards Dick.

I wonder how much of Nikki's reactions are in response to Jpg's "acting" his way through this. If he is putting on a show to look good for the audience, it is even sadder that Nikki is sticking around.

This is just my opinion, but we saw that JPG shows love, even if he doesn't say the words. Nikki on the other hand says the words and doesn't show them.

They need to learn to communicate in each others way. Most who know JPG and have met him say he is warm and friendly. Even those making fun of him on the show do admit he is more demonstrative than Nikki. They just call BS on not saying ILY.

I think they both need to learn, it isn't just Nikki's fault and it isn't just JPG's either.

stuckinsc wrote:This is just my opinion, but we saw that JPG shows love, even if he doesn't say the words.  Nikki on the other hand says the words and doesn't show them.  

They need to learn to communicate in each others way.  Most who know JPG and have met him say he is warm and friendly.  Even those making fun of him on the show do admit he is more demonstrative than Nikki.  They just call BS on not saying ILY.

I think they both need to learn, it isn't just Nikki's fault and it isn't just JPG's either.

You can't communicate love if it's not there. JPGs acting will go only so far. He is portraying a "nice guy" on the CT. He's acting as though he's easy going, wants to move...Nikki is walking around all pissy, so on the surface as a viewer it's easy to start feeling sorry for JPG putting up with Nikki's moods.

I don't think that it's a communication issue. I see it as though JPG and Nikki are on different pages where love is concerned.

JPG has nothing to lose by hanging out and even living with Nikki. In fact, it's advantageous to his career to continue this nonsense with Nikki. JPG only wants to move where the cameras are rolling i.e. LA, and not for a real love/relationship reason. If he truly wanted to make it a go and loved her, he would move to Kansas City to live where Nikki has a good job.

I do not have any hope for this couple....I enjoy watching them and reading how viewers analyze their behavior.

Ariela wrote:

stuckinsc wrote:This is just my opinion, but we saw that JPG shows love, even if he doesn't say the words.  Nikki on the other hand says the words and doesn't show them.  

They need to learn to communicate in each others way.  Most who know JPG and have met him say he is warm and friendly.  Even those making fun of him on the show do admit he is more demonstrative than Nikki.  They just call BS on not saying ILY.

I think they both need to learn, it isn't just Nikki's fault and it isn't just JPG's either.

You can't communicate love if it's not there. JPGs acting will go only so far. He is portraying a "nice guy" on the CT. He's acting as though he's easy going, wants to move...Nikki is walking around all pissy, so on the surface as a viewer it's easy to start feeling sorry for JPG putting up with Nikki's moods.

I don't think that it's a communication issue. I see it as though JPG and Nikki are on different pages where love is concerned.

JPG has nothing to lose by hanging out and even living with Nikki. In fact, it's advantageous to his career to continue this nonsense with Nikki. JPG only wants to move where the cameras are rolling i.e. LA, and not for a real love/relationship reason. If he truly wanted to make it a go and loved her, he would move to Kansas City to live where Nikki has a good job.

I do not have any hope for this couple....I enjoy watching them and reading how viewers analyze their behavior.

Agreed.