Re: Episode 7 - 7/11 - Discussion - Spoilers

by Guest Fri Jul 15, 2011 2:35 am

sweetpea wrote:I agree, Chantal was truly classy at the FRC. I am of the mind that the previews are misleading and it will turn out to be a tempest in a teapot. Not that that happens on this show at all *insert rolling eyes emoticon here*

oh no, never! You and Bloomers are probably right on the money about that. It will probably never see the light of day, but darn if they aren't trying to get us all stirred up over the possibility of it.

noobsleuth wrote:
sjcaligurl wrote:

We shall see. Still waters run deep and I think there is a side of Ben that we aren't seeing. I see the opposite happening if either one of them is F2. I think Ben's attitude would be 'how could you do this to me after you know what I've been through?' and Lord knows what else. Honestly, I cannot fathom JPs reaction. I think he would be totally crushed and I don't see how he would be able to do a video with his happy face the way he did last week.

I think JP would react exactly how Molly did.

As far as showing JP's insecurities/flaws... what?!? Showing something "real" on a "reality" show?!? You are all blowing my mind right now. I didn't think normal human traits existed in these characters. Insanity I tell ya. Must have been a slip in the editing.

On a serious note...

Either it's like Bloomers said and it's something the couple might be dealing with currently or TPTB might feel would end/or cause trouble in the relationship.... OR it''s like ironcat said and that there just really wasn't anything else to go with so they had to dramatize normal human emotion to the umpth degree in order to make a rather boring show entertaining.

I agree that JP would probably be completely crushed and I also agree that he would probably question her as Molly did Jason. I don't think he would really see that coming. Either way, with either guy it is going to be so sad to see their goodbye IMO.

Noob, re - the bolded: love it - I think you pretty much covered the options. :giggle: yes

by Diana Fri Jul 15, 2011 2:38 am

chaslom4 wrote:Sorry I disagree. I don't for one minute think even if JP is F2 he would ever do or say anything that would hurt Ashley. JMO

I don't think either guy would.

by Samantharose Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:14 am

noobsleuth wrote:
sjcaligurl wrote:
Coastal wrote:
Diana wrote:
Kelad9 wrote:I see Ben being quiet and not even saying anything if he's F2 whereas if JP is F2, JP will definately blow. JMO. & who would blame him?
I agree. I think if Ben walks way it's beacuse he just was heartbroken and hurt. I don't see him getting angry at Ashley.

I agree too............Ben, if he is F2, will take it as a man and walk away as a lot of other good f2's have done(Kip, Jason, and others)................JP on the other hand will really blow. He has already shown how he can act childish so if he is F2, chances are, he'll reinact the attitude and even blow up at Ashley.

We shall see. Still waters run deep and I think there is a side of Ben that we aren't seeing. I see the opposite happening if either one of them is F2. I think Ben's attitude would be 'how could you do this to me after you know what I've been through?' and Lord knows what else. Honestly, I cannot fathom JPs reaction. I think he would be totally crushed and I don't see how he would be able to do a video with his happy face the way he did last week.

I think JP would react exactly how Molly did.

As far as showing JP's insecurities/flaws... what?!? Showing something "real" on a "reality" show?!? You are all blowing my mind right now. I didn't think normal human traits existed in these characters. Insanity I tell ya. Must have been a slip in the editing.

On a serious note...

Either it's like Bloomers said and it's something the couple might be dealing with currently or TPTB might feel would end/or cause trouble in the relationship.... OR it''s like ironcat said and that there just really wasn't anything else to go with so they had to dramatize normal human emotion to the umpth degree in order to make a rather boring show entertaining.

I really hope they're not struggling. They look so happy in those HTD pics. I realize JP is sensitive, but what we're viewing of Ashley and the other guys is nothing compared to what was shown of Brad and Chantal. Is he really that insecure about Ashely? no idea

by sjcaligurl Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:19 am

I don't think that either of them would hurt her. I think that she is going to be so distraught seeing how much she is hurting them. It really was swoon worthy the way Ben was looking at her on their date. He actually is falling in love with her.

by Guest Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:34 am

sjcaligurl wrote:I don't think that either of them would hurt her. I think that she is going to be so distraught seeing how much she is hurting them. It really was swoon worthy the way Ben was looking at her on their date. He actually is falling in love with her.

I agree, I think she is going to be a mess because she hates that she has to cause pain to anyone of these guys. IMO, that is what she was crying about after the last RC when she said "maybe I'm not cut out for this." I think at that point she was looking ahead and realizing that she was going to have to lead guys on that she cared about, all to end up letting them go, and she just didn't want to do it anymore, especially because at this point I think she's made up her mind. I do think she really cares about all the guys she has left, and it's gotta be the worst feeling to have to string them along.

I'll be having my hankies ready for the FRC, that's for sure. :tissuebox

by Guest Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:13 am

Love_Me wrote:
BTW - can someone directed me to Cupcake's post about what exactly was edited in during the JP stuff.

cupcakes wrote:JP still sitting there after he leaves

Did he really "storm out" of the suite or is he leaving for the group date?

(The
reason I ask is if JP did indeed get up and storm out then how come
none of the guys seemed fazed that he just up and left the suite. The
only guy that even gazes towards his direction is Dino. Everyone else
continued with the conversation. Wouldn't Ben have said something like
"What's up with JP." or the other guys said "This must be really getting
to him" or something along those lines. I do think he did get up and
leave the conversation to collect his thoughts, but I'm not convinced
that it was bad as it was edited.)

I'm so skeptical lol

Or is it just a matter of the guys seeing this kind of attitude from Jp that it just doesn't phase them anymore. If you remember Lucas, Ames and Ryan talking about him going into his dark, silent, angry modes again......almost like it definately wasn't the first time they have seen him like that. Thoughts??

by Guest Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:18 am

pavalygurl wrote:
sjcaligurl wrote:
Jeepers wrote:The guys weren't giving him a hard time. They were asking Ben about his dare

Come on! They knew he was hanging by a thread before Ben even came back. Why ask those questions in front of him when they knew he was almost in tears to begin with?

Maybe because he had been in a "foul mood" all week (per CH) and they had had it with him. In comes Ben with fresh stories(about the sites etc) and they were eager to hear them.

Let's face it, it's not like Ben came back and started bragging about the date without even being asked. They asked Ben the questions because they were interested........Why should the guys care if JP was hanging on by a thread.......and if he was almost in tears, then it is obvious that he can't handle the pressure cooker......what makes JP more special than any of the other participants of this show before him.......sheesh.

by Guest Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:20 am

This probably isn't the right forum for this, but someone may can answer it. If Aames doesn't get past HTD's, where does the shot of him shirtless and on the beach come in to play.

I was curious. Because, I don't think he would be shirtless in NY this time of year it was taped. Cold. Does he make it past hometown's.

by Guest Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:23 am

Living wrote:
sjcaligurl wrote:
Living wrote:
sjcaligurl wrote:He didn't storm out. He left and probably went and got on the bus/van for the date early.

He stormed out. Maybe he had been acting so grumpy they were relieved he left for a bit. It was obvious why he was not happy, why ask him. Possible he had even told them. I noticed from the group date that Lucas and Ames were not fans of JP.

Okay. He STORMED out. LOL! They were giving him a hard time and he was really upset. That wasn't very nice of them. They were laughing at him during his photo shoot too.

Wonder why? Even expecting him to throw a tantrum like a 16yr old. God knows how much remained on the cutting floor. Has anyone checked if the person who left the show was JP and not Constantine. Maybe the red suitcase guy is JP for all we know. He seems petulant like a child and could have stormed out when he learned Ryan was back.

Couldn't agree more Living.........maybe the JP leaving and not Constantine should be checked out.

As far as the guys laughing at him, sorry, didn't happen on screen. again, why should he be treated with kid gloves from the other guys. Seriously, the guys were just talking, they were asking Ben questions about his date and that's IT.

by Nativenewyorker Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:24 am

happyntexas wrote:This probably isn't the right forum for this, but someone may can answer it. If Aames doesn't get past HTD's, where does the shot of him shirtless and on the beach come in to play.

I was curious. Because, I don't think he would be shirtless in NY this time of year it was taped. Cold. Does he make it past hometown's.

I believe that picture was from his 1-on-1 date with Ashley in Phuket, Thailand. I believe it was episode 4.

by Guest Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:26 am

mnmhughes wrote:As long as he didn't punch a wall, kick somebody, or yell derogatory comments, I don't think it's a big deal. He threw some dirty looks, realized he was getting upset, and left the room. It obviously didn't bother Ashley so I'm not letting it bother me!

I don't think your statement is accurate........Ashley didn't actually watch him acting like a child.......so how can you say it didn't bother her. All she was getting is second hand info from JP none the less about how the week bothered him. He never told her how he acted and how he was with the guys.......so for you to say that it didn't bother Ashley, I don't think is a correct and honest statement to make.......IMO

by Guest Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:29 am

Jeepers wrote:
sjcaligurl wrote:
Jeepers wrote:The guys weren't giving him a hard time. They were asking Ben about his dare

Come on! They knew he was hanging by a thread before Ben even came back. Why ask those questions in front of him when they knew he was almost in tears to begin with?

I don't have JP on a pedestal as some do and don't think he is the ONLY guy who has feelings for her. It is very natural for those at the house/hotel to ask some questions of the returning date. We have seen it many times. so why would they NOT ask about his date. JP or o JP

Very good points Jeepers.........again, why should JP be handled with kid gloves compared to the other contestants on past seasons and what exactly makes him so special for the treatment.........not realistic, IMO. I don't have JP on a pedestal either......unlike others on here. I think that there is at least 1 if not 2 more guys that have real and serious feelings for Ashley.......JP hasn't cornered the market on those feelings.

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