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Post by Guest Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:16 pm

bluwavz wrote:
Jeepers wrote:
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etherealfire wrote:Love being here, MNM. heartbeat So, anyway, what is the word on JP's edit from the general public or does anybody know? Does it look like the tide is turning against him in a big way? I don't have a sense of that but I wonder what everyone else thinks.

I don't think I've really seen one JP fan change their opinion on him. Most of the people who have a negative view on how JP acted seem to mostly be people who weren't fans of his to begin with. If the producers were trying to cast doubt on JP, I think they failed big time. I'm basing this on what I've seen on all the other message boards and twitter, though.
You can be a fan of any of them and still not like their behavior

I agree, but pretty much all JP fans are defending it. Most non-JP fans didn't care for it (me included). Is there any JP fans on here that disapproved?

I know I'm the one that originally asked the question and I'd like to know what others think, but I'm a fan of both guys and I don't disapprove of the way JP handled himself, edited or not. I'm very curious to know the answer to this as well.

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Post by jelle Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:27 pm

One scenario does not make a complete character edit. As far as I am concerned, it is just one more facet of the character's personality to consider. It depends upon what the editors intend for that action to portray in their story. In this case, I think it points to the depth of JP commitment/infatuation at this point.

If this were the bachelor, the girl would be crying and moaning and doing ITM about love and insecurities, and half the board would be feeling sorry for her.
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Post by Guest Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:30 pm

jelle wrote:One scenario does not make a complete character edit. As far as I am concerned, it is just one more facet of the character's personality to consider. It depends upon what the editors intend for that action to portray in their story. In this case, I think it points to the depth of JP commitment/infatuation at this point.

If this were the bachelor, the girl would be crying and moaning and doing ITM about love and insecurities, and half the board would be feeling sorry for her.
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Post by Beeleever Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:31 pm

jelle wrote:One scenario does not make a complete character edit. As far as I am concerned, it is just one more facet of the character's personality to consider. It depends upon what the editors intend for that action to portray in their story. In this case, I think it points to the depth of JP commitment/infatuation at this point.

If this were the bachelor, the girl would be crying and moaning and doing ITM about love and insecurities, and half the board would be feeling sorry for her.
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Post by Ayana Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:34 pm

bluwavz wrote:
Jeepers wrote:
bluwavz wrote:
etherealfire wrote:Love being here, MNM. heartbeat So, anyway, what is the word on JP's edit from the general public or does anybody know? Does it look like the tide is turning against him in a big way? I don't have a sense of that but I wonder what everyone else thinks.

I don't think I've really seen one JP fan change their opinion on him. Most of the people who have a negative view on how JP acted seem to mostly be people who weren't fans of his to begin with. If the producers were trying to cast doubt on JP, I think they failed big time. I'm basing this on what I've seen on all the other message boards and twitter, though.
You can be a fan of any of them and still not like their behavior

I agree, but pretty much all JP fans are defending it. Most non-JP fans didn't care for it (me included). Is there any JP fans on here that disapproved?

I'm a JP fan and I think he was being a brat. But I also thought it was pretty funny. though to be honest, I don't really trust anything I see on this show. I wouldn't be surprised if he was acting that way on purpose just because that episode needed some drama.
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Post by Nativenewyorker Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:37 pm

sjcaligurl wrote:They have been making fun of JP since the beginning and they knew that he liked her. They'd all been playing it cool and macho while he'd been wearing his heart on his sleeve. Bottom line is that they are going home one by one and he ... IS NOT! LOL!

Lucas is full of it. He was not happy about JP getting the Tux or about the kissing of the other guys. But he chose to complain about wearing a dress and feeling stupid. Why not complain about not wanting a group date where you kiss other guys which was the real issue. He would have worn a tutu had it just been them alone.

I had to come back here to say something about what Lucas had to say about JP. As far as I am concerned, Lucas is the last person to be judging the behavior of anyone else! Have we forgotten his little hissy fit when Ashley told the guys about Bentley? He showed more than a little temper at that time. What was that comment he made about her - don't waste my f------ time! He was really pissed off. So spare me his phony comments. And his anger was supposedly over a woman who he has admitted now that he wasn't really feeling anything for, certainly nothing like what JP feels for Ashley. At least JP has honest feelings and cares.

Lucas needs to take a good look in the mirror before he goes off on JP.
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Post by Pattycake92 Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:38 pm

I was actually a fan of it because it made the show more interesting and mad JP is hot. What would we have dedicated 14 threads to, if he had not acted that way?
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Post by Jeepers Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:39 pm

I don't see how the two incidents can even be compared


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Post by Bloomers Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:41 pm

I think JP is F1, but I an not a fan of jealousy no matter what shade or degree it is. I just don't think it is hot or a desirable trait in any person. It doesn't matter to me whether I am a female or not.


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Post by Guest Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:42 pm

Pattycake92 wrote:I was actually a fan of it because it made the show more interesting and mad JP is hot. What would we have dedicated 14 threads to, if he had not acted that way?

My goodness....ain't that the truth. Post after post after post......etc.

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Post by ryvetted Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:44 pm

happyntexas wrote:
Pattycake92 wrote:I was actually a fan of it because it made the show more interesting and mad JP is hot. What would we have dedicated 14 threads to, if he had not acted that way?

My goodness....ain't that the truth. Post after post after post......etc.

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Post by bing2262 Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:45 pm

Nativenewyorker wrote:
sjcaligurl wrote:They have been making fun of JP since the beginning and they knew that he liked her. They'd all been playing it cool and macho while he'd been wearing his heart on his sleeve. Bottom line is that they are going home one by one and he ... IS NOT! LOL!

Lucas is full of it. He was not happy about JP getting the Tux or about the kissing of the other guys. But he chose to complain about wearing a dress and feeling stupid. Why not complain about not wanting a group date where you kiss other guys which was the real issue. He would have worn a tutu had it just been them alone.

I had to come back here to say something about what Lucas had to say about JP. As far as I am concerned, Lucas is the last person to be judging the behavior of anyone else! Have we forgotten his little hissy fit when Ashley told the guys about Bentley? He showed more than a little temper at that time. What was that comment he made about her - don't waste my f------ time! He was really pissed off. So spare me his phony comments. And his anger was supposedly over a woman who he has admitted now that he wasn't really feeling anything for, certainly nothing like what JP feels for Ashley. At least JP has honest feelings and cares.

Lucas needs to take a good look in the mirror before he goes off on JP.
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Lucas does not like JP. He picked Ben for Ashley and also said Ben will be a good choice for the Bachelor. Hmmm....if he is campaigning for Ben to be the Bachelor then that means..... :awesome:
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