Episode 7 - 7/11 - Discussion - Spoilers

anders wrote:

Pattycake92 wrote:

Jeepers wrote:Biggest thing for me regarding JPs issues is that it actually went on for several days, not just for one incident. He simmered thru out the whole episode, and also acted on those feelings several times. Did NOT go unnoticed by the other guys at all

Really? I didn't see him get upset until Ben didn't come home which was the same day as his date. So he stewed for a bit and seemed fine at the beginning of the group date until he had to watch Lucas and Ames kissing his woman. By the end of his conversation with Ashley, he was back on cloud nine. He did look very pissed but HOT at the same time

we know this through Lucas - he narrated JP's typical anger/jealous behaviour through his silence. The behaviour we saw JP display last night was the only time we saw thing - but through Lucas we know it's happened before.

It's been simmering in the edit for quite a while now, first it started with petulant reaction shots, then progressed with the boys teasing him and Ben telling him to calm down or he'll drive himself nuts. Then in Phuket at the end of the orphanage date even Ash mentions him being "off" and he gives the comment "I'm a changed man whatever happens here". He was rattled in Phuket because Ash was "buzzing" around Ben. In Chang Mai he admits to the jealousy stinging when Ash picks Ben up for their date. This week we saw how really rattled he was. It definitely has been going on since the beginning, it makes me wonder how much inside info Lost Angeles has on the ending of this season to start calling JP the "SECRET ASSASSIN" from is very early blogs!

Her reaction to Ben pouring his heart out looked sad to me:



Her reaction to JP pouring his heart out:

Wait! Where is her hand on JP?

I love that Jash picture so much!

Pattycake92 wrote:Her reaction to Ben pouring his heart out looked sad to me:



Her reaction to JP pouring his heart out:

Pretty different. She's adorable!

sjcaligurl wrote:Wait! Where is her hand on JP?

It looked to me as if Ashley spent a lot of JP's time talking about his feelings stroking behind the lapel of his coat with one hand and either stroking his arm or leg with her other hand. It seemed like she was really trying to reassure him.

In the cap pattycake92 posted it seems like Ashley's really touched by what Ben F has to say to her but there's a more playful almost flirty look in her eyes with JP. I have no idea what that's supposed to mean but I don't really think that's advantage to either guy? There were other times that she was looking very intently at JP and times she was looking more playfully at Ben F.

CarrieAlexander wrote:Marissa is on a roll tonight

Marissa May"I don't know much about this...but let me BS my way through an explanation so I sound like Ames, a guy you like more than me" #bachelorette

Reminds me very much of how Ali was always questioning Roberto.

cfck2222 wrote:

sjcaligurl wrote:Wait! Where is her hand on JP?

It looked to me as if Ashley spent a lot of JP's time talking about his feelings stroking behind the lapel of his coat with one hand and either stroking his arm or leg with her other hand. It seemed like she was really trying to reassure him.

In the cap pattycake92 posted it seems like Ashley's really touched by what Ben F has to say to her but there's a more playful almost flirty look in her eyes with JP. I have no idea what that's supposed to mean but I don't really think that's advantage to either guy? There were other times that she was looking very intently at JP and times she was looking more playfully at Ben F.

cfck2222, you nickname should be "Switzerland". LOL

I noticed in the SC Ashley/JP picture thread that there's a ring on her right hand on her pinky when she's kissing JP. Have we seen her wear that before?

missmilano wrote:

CarrieAlexander wrote:Marissa is on a roll tonight

Marissa May"I don't know much about this...but let me BS my way through an explanation so I sound like Ames, a guy you like more than me" #bachelorette

Reminds me very much of how Ali was always questioning Roberto.

Welcome missmilano!

jojo47 wrote:

cfck2222 wrote:

sjcaligurl wrote:Wait! Where is her hand on JP?

It looked to me as if Ashley spent a lot of JP's time talking about his feelings stroking behind the lapel of his coat with one hand and either stroking his arm or leg with her other hand. It seemed like she was really trying to reassure him.

In the cap pattycake92 posted it seems like Ashley's really touched by what Ben F has to say to her but there's a more playful almost flirty look in her eyes with JP. I have no idea what that's supposed to mean but I don't really think that's advantage to either guy? There were other times that she was looking very intently at JP and times she was looking more playfully at Ben F.

cfck2222, you nickname should be "Switzerland". LOL

At the end of the day I think Ashley's got a case of crazies if she doesn't really and truly care about both these guys. This F2 is up there with Ali's as the best F2 ever IMO. I feel like whatever else people might say about Ashley, at the end of the day she did not have a Broken Picker.

I do feel like Ashley's picked her F1 at this point of filming and is behaving accordingly. But I don't think there's any clues yet in the editing that are slam dunk. So though there's definitely lots of confusing clues, I'm disagreeing with a lot of people who think there's a slam dunk clue for or against either guy in this episode. I don't think they give us slam dunk clues, at least not ones that are obvious before the FRC/ATFR.

cfck2222 wrote:

jojo47 wrote:

cfck2222 wrote:

sjcaligurl wrote:Wait! Where is her hand on JP?

It looked to me as if Ashley spent a lot of JP's time talking about his feelings stroking behind the lapel of his coat with one hand and either stroking his arm or leg with her other hand. It seemed like she was really trying to reassure him.

In the cap pattycake92 posted it seems like Ashley's really touched by what Ben F has to say to her but there's a more playful almost flirty look in her eyes with JP. I have no idea what that's supposed to mean but I don't really think that's advantage to either guy? There were other times that she was looking very intently at JP and times she was looking more playfully at Ben F.

cfck2222, you nickname should be "Switzerland". LOL

At the end of the day I think Ashley's got a case of crazies if she doesn't really and truly care about both these guys. This F2 is up there with Ali's as the best F2 ever IMO. I feel like whatever else people might say about Ashley, at the end of the day she did not have a Broken Picker.

I do feel like Ashley's picked her F1 at this point of filming and is behaving accordingly. But I don't think there's any clues yet in the editing that are slam dunk. So though there's definitely lots of confusing clues, I'm disagreeing with a lot of people who think there's a slam dunk clue for or against either guy in this episode. I don't think they give us slam dunk clues, at least not ones that are obvious before the FRC/ATFR.

Regarding bolding- I also agree. I think she's pretty much has picked her F1 and is just ready for the show to be over. I'm sure if she could have, she'd have sent everyone except F1 home last night IMO. Because I don't think she's cut out to lead guys on ( might be why we see her say she thinks she's not cut out for this-- IE: meaning leading them on when she already knows who she wants).