Re: Episode 7 - 7/11 - Discussion - Spoilers

by Martinanne Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:15 pm

anders wrote:
Speaking of Ryan - did you see that shiteating grin JP couldn't wipe off his face when Ryan said he was leaving? It was in the deleted scenes, if you care to have a looksee.

Yes! I think JP can't help being happy to see each guy leave, no matter whether he likes them or not.

by skitts Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:17 pm

Here's to Ryan P. the King of :cheeseyy

!

by sjcaligurl Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:19 pm

Honestly, I cannot envision JPs reaction if she doesn't pic him. I actually think he might handle it better in front of her then fall apart later. I think she finally knows how much JP "likes" her which is how he got that last rose.

With Ben, he's been so tenuous and gentle and laid back, she will be stunned if he reacts badly. The problem with quiet people is that you never know what they think unless they tell you. I think that Ben is the real simmering pot but if he explodes, good for him. He needs to start feeling something again.

by Chacharo Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:19 pm

anders wrote:
sjcaligurl wrote: . He was GLAD to see Lucas gone even though I don't think he was as big of a threat, except for in the masculine energy dept, as JP feared. He said "I know what we have is real" but that doesn't stop his doubts from entering the picture. I think that Ben isn't quite feeling the threat of anyone for some reason - especially now that Ryan is gone. They were all so afraid of Ryan when he was such a non-factor all along. LOL!

Speaking of Ryan - did you see that shiteating grin JP couldn't wipe off his face when Ryan said he was leaving? It was in the deleted scenes, if you care to have a looksee.

What other guy was in that scene sitting to JP's left? He had a big grin too .... Ames, perhaps?

I can never remember who is in a shot with JP. Cause I crush on him too. giggling

by ironcat Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:21 pm

[quote="sjcaligurl"][quote="Bloomers"]

emusha wrote:I think we're seeing that Ben isn't picking up on how deep things are between Ashley and JP. He's been teasing him. He thought Lucas would get a rose over him. He was pretty confident he was getting an HTD. I don't think he saw JP as threatening as JP saw him to be. I think that he'll let go and then when he doesn't get chosen, bolt! I think Ashley might be one of the first to really have strong feelings for both at the very end though her chemical attraction to JP is what is going to seal it in the end as having a strong physical connection is really important to her. These shows mandate that you lead people on. Even Ali said that you kinda have to let the guys kiss you or they will think that you don't like them. You have to play along. Ben will feel played and led on but most F2s do or they didn't pick up on the differences between their relationship and the others. JP seems very in tune to who his competition is. He was GLAD to see Lucas gone even though I don't think he was as big of a threat, except for in the masculine energy dept, as JP feared. He said "I know what we have is real" but that doesn't stop his doubts from entering the picture. I think that Ben isn't quite feeling the threat of anyone for some reason - especially now that Ryan is gone. They were all so afraid of Ryan when he was such a non-factor all along. LOL!

Good points, and ITA. For some reason, I suspect the rest of the guys think that JP's connection with Ashley is mostly one sided. I would really like to know what "happened" on their date in HK that JP thinks took the relationship to another level and Ashley only referred to as a little "wild" (with just a bit of embarrassment, I believe). I'm pretty certain none of the other guys have gotten to that "level" yet with her, and they surely don't suspect JP has either.

by Guest Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:21 pm

Well, I missed that one. This I got to see.

by mnmhughes Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:24 pm

[quote="ironcat"][quote="sjcaligurl"]

Bloomers wrote:
emusha wrote:I think we're seeing that Ben isn't picking up on how deep things are between Ashley and JP. He's been teasing him. He thought Lucas would get a rose over him. He was pretty confident he was getting an HTD. I don't think he saw JP as threatening as JP saw him to be. I think that he'll let go and then when he doesn't get chosen, bolt! I think Ashley might be one of the first to really have strong feelings for both at the very end though her chemical attraction to JP is what is going to seal it in the end as having a strong physical connection is really important to her. These shows mandate that you lead people on. Even Ali said that you kinda have to let the guys kiss you or they will think that you don't like them. You have to play along. Ben will feel played and led on but most F2s do or they didn't pick up on the differences between their relationship and the others. JP seems very in tune to who his competition is. He was GLAD to see Lucas gone even though I don't think he was as big of a threat, except for in the masculine energy dept, as JP feared. He said "I know what we have is real" but that doesn't stop his doubts from entering the picture. I think that Ben isn't quite feeling the threat of anyone for some reason - especially now that Ryan is gone. They were all so afraid of Ryan when he was such a non-factor all along. LOL!

Good points, and ITA. For some reason, I suspect the rest of the guys think that JP's connection with Ashley is mostly one sided. I would really like to know what "happened" on their date in HK that JP thinks took the relationship to another level and Ashley only referred to as a little "wild" (with just a bit of embarrassment, I believe). I'm pretty certain none of the other guys have gotten to that "level" yet with her, and they surely don't suspect JP has either.

Yep, I'm suspecting that JP wasn't into sharing details when he came back from his dates. :P

by Alanna Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:27 pm

Truly cannot imagine JP's reaction if he's F2. He would be totally effed up and completely catatonic, exactly like Molly, or even worse. It would just be awful.

by cfck2222 Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:29 pm

ironcat wrote:
mnmhughes wrote:
anders wrote:No person has ever walked away at F2. Not yet anyway.

I understand that. I was referring to the fact that every F2 has to face that moment when they realize they were, essentially, led on.

If Ben is F2, and if gets angry and blasts Ashley for having led him on, I wonder if he will be branded as someone with dangerous anger management issues as well. (Yes, I went there!) :winkie:

But I have a hard time imagining Ben F getting angry and blasting Ashley for having led him on if he's F2. It doesn't really go along with CH saying viewers would love him because it would be a polarizing situation no matter what people went in thinking of Ben F and Ashley. But I guess you never know.

I expect the F2 breakup to be really depressing no matter who or what.

by mnmhughes Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:29 pm

Alanna wrote:Truly cannot imagine JP's reaction if he's F2. He would be totally effed up and completely catatonic, exactly like Molly, or even worse. It would just be awful.

Yeah. I expect his hurt would overwhelm his anger and there would be more crying than yelling. I suspect that Ben would be the opposite.

by sjcaligurl Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:32 pm

Martinanne wrote:
anders wrote:
Speaking of Ryan - did you see that shiteating grin JP couldn't wipe off his face when Ryan said he was leaving? It was in the deleted scenes, if you care to have a looksee.

Yes! I think JP can't help being happy to see each guy leave, no matter whether he likes them or not.

Lucas had quite the smile when Ryan went to pack his bags too! JP has been an advocate of everyone leaving, I think, since his first date. In Phuket (before his beach scene), when all of the guys were complaining about Ryan and fearing that he'd get another rose, JP said something like "well I just think that if he gets another one, people will just LEAVE." No matter who went on a date, he was counting roses and how many would be left for them. I think JP fell in love on the spot but only let himself get invested as time went on. In HK, both he and Ryan had the "if you don't want to be here, LEAVE" attitude. I don't think he's afraid of Ames so that leaves the twins for him to fear from here on out - mostly Ben.

by anders Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:32 pm

I don't think either of them would yell or cry - they'd both take it on the chin and leave.

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