Episode 7 - 7/11 - Discussion - Spoilers

I'm sad that next episode is Ames' last episode and we won't see much of him on Bachelor Pad either :(

sjcaligurl wrote:I think they edited in JP's journey to show how compassionate they are towards one another.

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So agree!!!

I love the yellow cords bee pants story!

Those pants of Ames are called Nantucket Reds (I learned that on RS website) - very Ivy League and very NY Yacht Club !

GO AMES ! !

sunshineandshit wrote:I'm sad that next episode is Ames' last episode and we won't see much of him on Bachelor Pad either :(

Me too. Love me some Ames. :(

Honestly this is my favorite F4 of all time, All our great guys! The goodbyes are going to get harder and harder to watch.

With respect to nice guys, you always like to see them treated respectfully when they are eliminated by a Bachelorette. At least this is how I feel.

Alanna wrote:

ironcat wrote:

I read somewhere that he was a HS Varsity lacrosse player. He also seemed to know what he was doing in the boxing. I suspect he's pretty athletic. And while he's smaller than the other guys, and maybe the guys Ashley typically prefers, he isn't a shrimp; he's probably of average height for a man.

ITA. Ashley likes big guys because they make her feel safe and secure. Actually, everything they do make her feel safe and secure, just like the guys' breathing and just being alive made Jillian feel "adored," but anyway, JP is definitely masculine, almost alpha-male like, to give Ashley the feeling she's craving even if he's not 7 feet tall.

Harvey Levin would be a giant next to our little Ashley

MaggieMae wrote:Come on folks, we all know that this show is a complete "mindfuck" by now.

I wouldn't be surprised if a producer told Dino to egg JP on in order to get the response we saw because it fit into the "storyline" they're telling for him.

JP is getting the Roberto storyline - brutally hot guy, maybe a playa playa, physical chemistry with the lead but is it real?

Ben is getting the Chris L storyline - cute, sweet guy, lost a parent, focusing on business, trying to find love but afraid.

Bentley = Frank but on steriods.

really, I don't get that at all - Roberto had a quiet confidence whereas JP has been shown to be jealous - those two things are nothing alike. Aside from the fact that not all of us think that JP is hot, hot, hot....

Roberto watched as Kirk went back to Ali's room because she wasn't feeling well and he didn't even flinch. JP was upset because Ben didn't come home - it's like he's taken possession of her and nobody else is allowed to have feelings for her. Two totally different edits.

albean99 wrote: I'm only interested in JP's jealousy as it's edited. Only he and people around him know the truth and I really don't care. I still think no matter how many people defend him, that it was unattractive and takes away from a f1 edit. I will be interested to see if there's more to come especially during the FDs.

so very much THIS.....

anders wrote:

MaggieMae wrote:Come on folks, we all know that this show is a complete "mindfuck" by now.

I wouldn't be surprised if a producer told Dino to egg JP on in order to get the response we saw because it fit into the "storyline" they're telling for him.

JP is getting the Roberto storyline - brutally hot guy, maybe a playa playa, physical chemistry with the lead but is it real?

Ben is getting the Chris L storyline - cute, sweet guy, lost a parent, focusing on business, trying to find love but afraid.

Bentley = Frank but on steriods.

really, I don't get that at all - Roberto had a quiet confidence whereas JP has been shown to be jealous - those two things are nothing alike. Aside from the fact that not all of us think that JP is hot, hot, hot....

Roberto watched as Kirk went back to Ali's room because she wasn't feeling well and he didn't even flinch. JP was upset because Ben didn't come home - it's like he's taken possession of her and nobody else is allowed to have feelings for her. Two totally different edits.

I agree with you, Anders. I just don't remember Roberto showing any jealousy towards any of the guys. I have Ali's season on DVD and have watched it several times over & over again. Roberto & Chris L became close friends during Ali's season. Neither one of these guys were jealous of each other. Roberto & Chris called each other every day and talked even after the filming of the show had stopped. During R's PI, he would always say, "I don't know how Ali's connection is with other people, but I know mine with her is awesome". Roberto often complimented Chris on how much of a family guy he is and that he's an amazing person. I just don't remember seeing R with a jealousy trait during the show. OTOH, Frank was the jealous of the guys during Ali's season. (IMO)

Both Chris & Roberto are the BEST of friends eve to this very day! :Nod:

LaureanT wrote:

anders wrote:

MaggieMae wrote:Come on folks, we all know that this show is a complete "mindfuck" by now.

I wouldn't be surprised if a producer told Dino to egg JP on in order to get the response we saw because it fit into the "storyline" they're telling for him.

JP is getting the Roberto storyline - brutally hot guy, maybe a playa playa, physical chemistry with the lead but is it real?

Ben is getting the Chris L storyline - cute, sweet guy, lost a parent, focusing on business, trying to find love but afraid.

Bentley = Frank but on steriods.

really, I don't get that at all - Roberto had a quiet confidence whereas JP has been shown to be jealous - those two things are nothing alike. Aside from the fact that not all of us think that JP is hot, hot, hot....

Roberto watched as Kirk went back to Ali's room because she wasn't feeling well and he didn't even flinch. JP was upset because Ben didn't come home - it's like he's taken possession of her and nobody else is allowed to have feelings for her. Two totally different edits.

I agree with you, Anders. I just don't remember Roberto showing any jealousy towards any of the guys. I have Ali's season on DVD and have watched it several times over & over again. Roberto & Chris L became close friends during Ali's season. Neither one of these guys were jealous of each other. Roberto & Chris called each other every day and talked even after the filming of the show had stopped. During R's PI, he would always say, "I don't know how Ali's connection is with other people, but I know mine with her is awesome". Roberto often complimented Chris on how much of a family guy he is and that he's an amazing person. I just don't remember seeing R with a jealousy trait during the show. OTOH, Frank was the jealous of the guys during Ali's season. (IMO)

Both Chris & Roberto are the BEST of friends eve to this very day! :Nod:

Guys are all different in how they react in this situation, just like women are different. In any case, I can't compare anyone's reactions to Roberto because that man is the Rock of Gibraltar. How many times now has his precious Ali gotten gravely injured in front of his face? And it seems each time he's chill and swiftly takes her to the ER.

Alanna wrote:

LaureanT wrote:

anders wrote:

MaggieMae wrote:Come on folks, we all know that this show is a complete "mindfuck" by now.

I wouldn't be surprised if a producer told Dino to egg JP on in order to get the response we saw because it fit into the "storyline" they're telling for him.

JP is getting the Roberto storyline - brutally hot guy, maybe a playa playa, physical chemistry with the lead but is it real?

Ben is getting the Chris L storyline - cute, sweet guy, lost a parent, focusing on business, trying to find love but afraid.

Bentley = Frank but on steriods.

really, I don't get that at all - Roberto had a quiet confidence whereas JP has been shown to be jealous - those two things are nothing alike. Aside from the fact that not all of us think that JP is hot, hot, hot....

Roberto watched as Kirk went back to Ali's room because she wasn't feeling well and he didn't even flinch. JP was upset because Ben didn't come home - it's like he's taken possession of her and nobody else is allowed to have feelings for her. Two totally different edits.

I agree with you, Anders. I just don't remember Roberto showing any jealousy towards any of the guys. I have Ali's season on DVD and have watched it several times over & over again. Roberto & Chris L became close friends during Ali's season. Neither one of these guys were jealous of each other. Roberto & Chris called each other every day and talked even after the filming of the show had stopped. During R's PI, he would always say, "I don't know how Ali's connection is with other people, but I know mine with her is awesome". Roberto often complimented Chris on how much of a family guy he is and that he's an amazing person. I just don't remember seeing R with a jealousy trait during the show. OTOH, Frank was the jealous of the guys during Ali's season. (IMO)

Both Chris & Roberto are the BEST of friends eve to this very day! :Nod:

Guys are all different in how they react in this situation, just like women are different. In any case, I can't compare anyone's reactions to Roberto because that man is the Rock of Gibraltar. How many times now has his precious Ali gotten gravely injured in front of his face? And it seems each time he's chill and swiftly takes her to the ER.

Ali has become quite the Calamity Jane, hasn't she? He's a regular Dudley Doright having to rescue his fair maiden every time he looks up. I don't know, the way he sits with her when they are together, I don't think he lets her too far out of his sight and, definitely, no guy would be able to get within two feet of her. LOL! He sticks to her like glue (and vice versa). I think he's possessive in a different way. I'm sure he had some gut wrenching nights during their 'journey.' We just didn't see them. I think he used his ability to focus as an athlete to help him block out the other guys. JP is more of a spaz. I think he's doing pretty good considering the guys do tend to tease him and patience is not his stated virtue ... He's not like Frank who ultimately ran home to his old girlfriend.