Episode 7 - 7/11 - Discussion - Spoilers

oh my - retirement here, big cake, just ate a corner piece, lots of frosting and roses......

mnmhughes wrote:

Bloomers wrote:

Hotmomma wrote:

albean99 wrote:

Babycakee wrote:I read thru this thread before I watched last nights episode and was expecting JP's jealousy to be horrible, but.... when I watched it I didn't quite get what everyone was harping on. IMO, it was almost hardly worth discussing. Hardly jealously, more hurt going on than anything.

Ben is so sweet but I noticed on their date when he was kissing Ash, it was all just little "pecks" and one arm/hand at all times was just hanging to the side or propped up on the bridge... he sure didn't seem totally invested (to me).

I think the clues all pointed to JP. Her "ILY" about Ben seemed just a friendly one. There certainly didn't seem to be any emotion behind it. At this point I name Jordan Paul F1. Of course, being a woman, my opinion is subject to change. :loveflower:

Really? I thought JP came across as a petulant child last night. Apparently he doesn't understand the concept of the show. I can understand not wanting to see Ashley kissing someone but he was so OTT with the F bombs and seething when Ben wasn't back yet.




I guess you didn't see all of Ben & Ashley's kisses. Looks to me like he's got 2 hands on her. I also think it's adorable that Ashley stands on something to kiss Ben. Looks like she wants to get as close as possible. :awesome:

I'm not trying to talk anyone into thinking it's not JP though. We all see things differently which is a good thing. :Nod:

That is how I feel..I think Ashley enjoyed this date the most of this week..Thanks for posting these..just so darn cute..I enjoyed seeing Ashley actually laughing having a good time..

At this point in the process, I am not at all convinced that Ashley is all that far physically gone on JP. I watched her with Dino on Monday night. She talked about holding hands, but the camera focused in on her hand on his bare thigh. While they were talking, Ashley's eyes were growing bigger with interest. Physically, she is interested in Dino.

Now, look at the two pictures above. Ashley has her arms wrapped tightly around Ben, and her body is as close to his as she can get it. Now in contrast, especially in the bottom picture his two hands are just resting at slightly past her waist. His arms are not wrapped around her tightly. Ashley is the one pressing into Ben - not the other way around. Physically, Ashley is more aggressive on the kissing.

Now on the hometown picture coming up, we see a series of pictures where Ashley runs and physically throws herself into Ben's arms.

JP may well be F1. From the evidence, that is what it looks like; however, at this point, I don't think Ashley has physically dismissed the others. I just don't see any evidence of that. I personally think she is enjoying herself. :halo:

Yep, Ash is a little tiger who definitely has "touch" as her love language! Now, which guy can keep up with her stamina?

JP is not the type she's had in her head physically. That would be Ben, Dino, Bentley and possibly Ryan. She likes guys who are a lot bigger than she is and whom have a lot of moppy hair. JP is ... not so much either of those:-) Still, she does think he is 'gorgeous' and has the best physical chemistry with him. She all but said she kept Dino around because he was nice to look at. She's smashing herself into Ben while he is just casually holding her. I think she's trying to draw passion out of guys who aren't necessarily all that passionate. I think Ben is into her but he's just more passive. Constantine doesn't seem to have a lot of experience w/women in my eyes. He seems to have run through a few without anything really developing. He may be a hookup king. That may be why his mom was sending in his application. He's 28 now? That means he was 25 when she was 'worried' that he wasn't going to find anyone. There's not enough time for anything to develop with him at this point and she did have it right on their date, she was going to be his guinea pig. It's almost the same with Ben. He said he'd been emotionally unavailable and was skeptical even when he came to the show. She's his first try out of the gate after a long while too and wasn't sure he was even looking.

JP, Ryan and Lucas were looking and ready. Unfortunately, she wasn't feeling it so much for the latter two. She's ready to go back to the states and get to know the families. I think she's pretty sure it's JP but would like to see if something more physically passionate can develop with a guy like Ben. If he could kiss her the way JP did or better, I think it could be over for JP. I think she's reading the script for Ames and Dino.

well, this is the old bf - he looks eerily similar to JP, if you ask me.

sjcaligurl wrote:

mnmhughes wrote:

Bloomers wrote:

Hotmomma wrote:

albean99 wrote:

Babycakee wrote:I read thru this thread before I watched last nights episode and was expecting JP's jealousy to be horrible, but.... when I watched it I didn't quite get what everyone was harping on. IMO, it was almost hardly worth discussing. Hardly jealously, more hurt going on than anything.

Ben is so sweet but I noticed on their date when he was kissing Ash, it was all just little "pecks" and one arm/hand at all times was just hanging to the side or propped up on the bridge... he sure didn't seem totally invested (to me).

I think the clues all pointed to JP. Her "ILY" about Ben seemed just a friendly one. There certainly didn't seem to be any emotion behind it. At this point I name Jordan Paul F1. Of course, being a woman, my opinion is subject to change. :loveflower:

Really? I thought JP came across as a petulant child last night. Apparently he doesn't understand the concept of the show. I can understand not wanting to see Ashley kissing someone but he was so OTT with the F bombs and seething when Ben wasn't back yet.




I guess you didn't see all of Ben & Ashley's kisses. Looks to me like he's got 2 hands on her. I also think it's adorable that Ashley stands on something to kiss Ben. Looks like she wants to get as close as possible. :awesome:

I'm not trying to talk anyone into thinking it's not JP though. We all see things differently which is a good thing. :Nod:

That is how I feel..I think Ashley enjoyed this date the most of this week..Thanks for posting these..just so darn cute..I enjoyed seeing Ashley actually laughing having a good time..

At this point in the process, I am not at all convinced that Ashley is all that far physically gone on JP. I watched her with Dino on Monday night. She talked about holding hands, but the camera focused in on her hand on his bare thigh. While they were talking, Ashley's eyes were growing bigger with interest. Physically, she is interested in Dino.

Now, look at the two pictures above. Ashley has her arms wrapped tightly around Ben, and her body is as close to his as she can get it. Now in contrast, especially in the bottom picture his two hands are just resting at slightly past her waist. His arms are not wrapped around her tightly. Ashley is the one pressing into Ben - not the other way around. Physically, Ashley is more aggressive on the kissing.

Now on the hometown picture coming up, we see a series of pictures where Ashley runs and physically throws herself into Ben's arms.

JP may well be F1. From the evidence, that is what it looks like; however, at this point, I don't think Ashley has physically dismissed the others. I just don't see any evidence of that. I personally think she is enjoying herself. :halo:

Yep, Ash is a little tiger who definitely has "touch" as her love language! Now, which guy can keep up with her stamina?

JP is not the type she's had in her head physically. That would be Ben, Dino, Bentley and possibly Ryan. She likes guys who are a lot bigger than she is and whom have a lot of moppy hair. JP is ... not so much either of those:-) Still, she does think he is 'gorgeous' and has the best physical chemistry with him. She all but said she kept Dino around because he was nice to look at. She's smashing herself into Ben while he is just casually holding her. I think she's trying to draw passion out of guys who aren't necessarily all that passionate. I think Ben is into her but he's just more passive. Constantine doesn't seem to have a lot of experience w/women in my eyes. He seems to have run through a few without anything really developing. He may be a hookup king. That may be why his mom was sending in his application. He's 28 now? That means he was 25 when she was 'worried' that he wasn't going to find anyone. There's not enough time for anything to develop with him at this point and she did have it right on their date, she was going to be his guinea pig. It's almost the same with Ben. He said he'd been emotionally unavailable and was skeptical even when he came to the show. She's his first try out of the gate after a long while too and wasn't sure he was even looking.

JP, Ryan and Lucas were looking and ready. Unfortunately, she wasn't feeling it so much for the latter two. She's ready to go back to the states and get to know the families. I think she's pretty sure it's JP but would like to see if something more physically passionate can develop with a guy like Ben. If he could kiss her the way JP did or better, I think it could be over for JP. I think she's reading the script for Ames and Dino.

Very nicely stated!

anders wrote:well, this is the old bf - he looks eerily similar to JP, if you ask me.

He looks like him in the face but I think he was a football player and might be quite a bit bigger than the picture looks. He doesn't look like a shrimp. I'm not sure JP is particularly athletic even though he may work out. LOL!

Pattycake92 wrote:What are the chances that the producers are editing out the French kisses with Ben so that JP and Ash will have a better chance of surviving after the show? Or maybe all they've done is peck at each other.

This is my problem with their so called "romantic heat" every kiss is a peck and after every peck Ash pulls away. Sure she goes back in but just for more pecks. It's really weird.

With Dino all they did was stand in the same place... neither of them moved their hands or their mouths. It was like a pose. Again really weird.

I will change my opinion when I see her actually open mouth kiss one of these guys like she did o the beach with JP... but maybe I am just drinking the kool aid or snorting frosting.

I've been wrong before about the ending so if I am wrong this season oh well... I enjoyed watching Jash and their magical kisses.

anders wrote:well, this is the old bf - he looks eerily similar to JP, if you ask me.

I think Ryan looks more like him than JP does

noobsleuth wrote:

Pattycake92 wrote:What are the chances that the producers are editing out the French kisses with Ben so that JP and Ash will have a better chance of surviving after the show? Or maybe all they've done is peck at each other.

This is my problem with their so called "romantic heat" every kiss is a peck and after every peck Ash pulls away. Sure she goes back in but just for more pecks. It's really weird.

With Dino all they did was stand in the same place... neither of them moved their hands or their mouths. It was like a pose. Again really weird.

I will change my opinion when I see her actually open mouth kiss one of these guys like she did o the beach with JP... but maybe I am just drinking the kool aid or snorting frosting.

I've been wrong before about the ending so if I am wrong this season oh well... I enjoyed watching Jash and their magical kisses.

Ali did the same thing with all her guys - including Roberto. She said somewhere at some point that she did that on purpose. We even saw a lot of peck type kisses with Roberto. I don't recall if we ever saw any real open mouthed kissing with those two.

^^^Hey guys, Chantal got that edit and look how it ended...keep that in mind!

anders wrote:

noobsleuth wrote:

Pattycake92 wrote:What are the chances that the producers are editing out the French kisses with Ben so that JP and Ash will have a better chance of surviving after the show? Or maybe all they've done is peck at each other.

This is my problem with their so called "romantic heat" every kiss is a peck and after every peck Ash pulls away. Sure she goes back in but just for more pecks. It's really weird.

With Dino all they did was stand in the same place... neither of them moved their hands or their mouths. It was like a pose. Again really weird.

I will change my opinion when I see her actually open mouth kiss one of these guys like she did o the beach with JP... but maybe I am just drinking the kool aid or snorting frosting.

I've been wrong before about the ending so if I am wrong this season oh well... I enjoyed watching Jash and their magical kisses.

Ali did the same thing with all her guys - including Roberto. She said somewhere at some point that she did that on purpose. We even saw a lot of peck type kisses with Roberto. I don't recall if we ever saw any real open mouthed kissing with those two.

I'm embarrassed that I even have this saved on my laptop.. glad it came in handy

awwww thanks for the mammories....Oops, memories.....

CarrieAlexander wrote:

anders wrote:

noobsleuth wrote:

Pattycake92 wrote:What are the chances that the producers are editing out the French kisses with Ben so that JP and Ash will have a better chance of surviving after the show? Or maybe all they've done is peck at each other.

This is my problem with their so called "romantic heat" every kiss is a peck and after every peck Ash pulls away. Sure she goes back in but just for more pecks. It's really weird.

With Dino all they did was stand in the same place... neither of them moved their hands or their mouths. It was like a pose. Again really weird.

I will change my opinion when I see her actually open mouth kiss one of these guys like she did o the beach with JP... but maybe I am just drinking the kool aid or snorting frosting.

I've been wrong before about the ending so if I am wrong this season oh well... I enjoyed watching Jash and their magical kisses.

Ali did the same thing with all her guys - including Roberto. She said somewhere at some point that she did that on purpose. We even saw a lot of peck type kisses with Roberto. I don't recall if we ever saw any real open mouthed kissing with those two.

I'm embarrassed that I even have this saved on my laptop..

Carrie! :bad girl:
Almost makes me feel bad for these people that we're watching every little touch and kiss. Not bad enough to stop though! :awesome: