Episode 7 - 7/11 - Discussion - Spoilers

Kashathediva wrote:

northernviewer wrote:

bambam64 wrote:I also think there may be more to he Ryan story that has been spoiled. I agree that he is in the works to be the next Bachelor at this point and his return is essentially his start to his season. I was a very casual viewer so maybe someone can help out with this but I hear people leave and return a lot on this show. I've also heard that sometimes someone will come back and warn the lead or cause doubt on their decision.. Like DeAnna did with Jason? Maybe Ryan comes back and tells her not to pick a certain person. Or maybe he does rejoin the running and is in attendance at the FRC. I admit that at certain glances Ryan does look like the guy Ashley is talking to.

The purpose of the return of a contestant is usually just for drama and is producer influenced. What Ryan says and does remains to be seen but I'm not seeing him play any other role for Ashley other than just being another guy that she let go. If she could get over Bentley that fast, I"m not seeing her stressing too much about letting Ryan go. I think Ash has been told that he's being considered for Bach and to just play along.... again, much like the whole Jake and Ali phone scene.

Thanks! I totally agree. SO much so I did not type ITA, but actually took the time to write the whole thing out longhand! :P

Bloomers wrote:

Hotmomma wrote:

albean99 wrote:

Babycakee wrote:I read thru this thread before I watched last nights episode and was expecting JP's jealousy to be horrible, but.... when I watched it I didn't quite get what everyone was harping on. IMO, it was almost hardly worth discussing. Hardly jealously, more hurt going on than anything.

Ben is so sweet but I noticed on their date when he was kissing Ash, it was all just little "pecks" and one arm/hand at all times was just hanging to the side or propped up on the bridge... he sure didn't seem totally invested (to me).

I think the clues all pointed to JP. Her "ILY" about Ben seemed just a friendly one. There certainly didn't seem to be any emotion behind it. At this point I name Jordan Paul F1. Of course, being a woman, my opinion is subject to change. :loveflower:

Really? I thought JP came across as a petulant child last night. Apparently he doesn't understand the concept of the show. I can understand not wanting to see Ashley kissing someone but he was so OTT with the F bombs and seething when Ben wasn't back yet.




I guess you didn't see all of Ben & Ashley's kisses. Looks to me like he's got 2 hands on her. I also think it's adorable that Ashley stands on something to kiss Ben. Looks like she wants to get as close as possible. :awesome:

I'm not trying to talk anyone into thinking it's not JP though. We all see things differently which is a good thing. :Nod:

That is how I feel..I think Ashley enjoyed this date the most of this week..Thanks for posting these..just so darn cute..I enjoyed seeing Ashley actually laughing having a good time..

At this point in the process, I am not at all convinced that Ashley is all that far physically gone on JP. I watched her with Dino on Monday night. She talked about holding hands, but the camera focused in on her hand on his bare thigh. While they were talking, Ashley's eyes were growing bigger with interest. Physically, she is interested in Dino.

Now, look at the two pictures above. Ashley has her arms wrapped tightly around Ben, and her body is as close to his as she can get it. Now in contrast, especially in the bottom picture his two hands are just resting at slightly past her waist. His arms are not wrapped around her tightly. Ashley is the one pressing into Ben - not the other way around. Physically, Ashley is more aggressive on the kissing.

Now on the hometown picture coming up, we see a series of pictures where Ashley runs and physically throws herself into Ben's arms.

JP may well be F1. From the evidence, that is what it looks like; however, at this point, I don't think Ashley has physically dismissed the others. I just don't see any evidence of that. I personally think she is enjoying herself. :halo:

alsoaktchr wrote:What are the chances TPTB ask her to ramp up the physical affection??

alsoaktchr wrote:What are the chances TPTB ask her to ramp up the physical affection??

ZG Champion wrote:Chris Harrison made a comment the other day about Ryan coming back because he had unanswered questions for Ashley. It sounds like he's coming back for closure, similar to Bentley's return to provide closure for Ashley. There's a kind of symmetry to it.

These returns are also not uncommon. The show hypes them to create uncertainty. Jeremy returning in the Bahamas after being rejected by Deanna, Deanna showing up in New Zealand to visit Jason.

Ryan probably gets his closure and maybe gives Ashley his thoughts on the final guys, but I'd bet he isn't returning as a contender.

I see a lot of chemistry in her kisses with Constantine and Ben, and I'm glad to see her finally enjoying herself after all the time she wasted on Bentley. She knows she has a lot of ground to make up. I think she is committed to putting everything she has into the remaining guys, hoping to find love among them. It has been such a romantically awkward season so far.

Bloomers wrote:

ZG Champion wrote:Chris Harrison made a comment the other day about Ryan coming back because he had unanswered questions for Ashley. It sounds like he's coming back for closure, similar to Bentley's return to provide closure for Ashley. There's a kind of symmetry to it.

These returns are also not uncommon. The show hypes them to create uncertainty. Jeremy returning in the Bahamas after being rejected by Deanna, Deanna showing up in New Zealand to visit Jason.

Ryan probably gets his closure and maybe gives Ashley his thoughts on the final guys, but I'd bet he isn't returning as a contender.

I see a lot of chemistry in her kisses with Constantine and Ben, and I'm glad to see her finally enjoying herself after all the time she wasted on Bentley. She knows she has a lot of ground to make up. I think she is committed to putting everything she has into the remaining guys, hoping to find love among them. It has been such a romantically awkward season so far.

I think you have a good grasp on it; I just think that so many people have fallen so deeply into the JP story that they aren't getting a grasp on the whole picture the way that you are expressing it.

Alanna wrote:Actually Northern, I'm snorting frosting. :awesome:

Alanna wrote:Actually Northern, I'm snorting frosting. :awesome: