Re: Andi Dorfman and Josh Murray Bachelorette 10 - Media - Twitter - General Discussion Thread #2

[SueSt]

Josh always seems grounded & and real decent  person I hope josh finds someone that deserves him!

Aside from falling under Andi's nasty spell and trash talking 'my' sweet Nick, I agree about Josh.  
I actually wish both Josh and Andi well, although I think Andi's going to have a way harder time than Josh moving on.  She presents as a very defensive and angry woman.

Josh is a good ole boy, former athlete.  I think, with him, what you see is what you get.  (I mean this in a good way.)  I think he wanted to believe that Andi was the right woman for him, and I think that Andi tried really hard on the show to sell herself as great wife material.  I think they had a shot and they gave it a try.  But, in the end, I think Josh saw Andi for who she is deep down inside---a mean girl, entitled and spoiled---and he didn't like what he saw on a day to day basis.  She is going to need to get back to some semblance of a real life, including a job, in order to move on, IMO. But with friends like Kelly... ...good luck changing that bad juju!  

JuJu!! Love it!
Yes on the analysis... she's got an uphill road, for sure. Josh will heal much more easily and quickly because he's basically a nice guy.

[Ash2214]

I hope no one takes offense to this, but Andi has a very specific type of personality. She needs a man that is a bit on the weaker side. She seems to like to be in charge, in control and very assertive. Unfortunately, it's a type of personality that can be difficult to handle. As someone else said, I think she's a young 27 and there's not anything necessarily wrong with that. I'm only 23, but if I'm engaged at 27 and have the opportunity to get married and have kids within a couple of years, I would be ecstatic. I just don't think Andi was ready for that where Josh was all in. No matter who she picked from this show, it was going to be difficult due to all of that. I think she wanted a different path than a few of the last guys standing on the show.

I think they loved each other, but sometimes you figure out after trying that it won't work. Josh looked really done on Monday.

[MiaHawk]

I"m going to cut her a break.  She's being interviewed live, knows her relatiionship is in a shambles and is under contract to fake it for MF and company for the sake of his red carpet circus.  Anyone might say all kinds of things that sound ridiculous under those circumstances.

I think these two really loved each other.  Sometimes, that's not enough.  Wish them both the best.

You are kinder than me. Yes, they may have been contractually obligated to attend, but that is all the more reason that they should have had a few short and vague answers prepared in advance. CH asked them questions, but he wasn't pressing them any near where as hard as he was pressing Nikki to trash JPG. I don't think MF or CH wanted Andi or Josh to come right out and say that they were going to be breaking up, but the obviously phony answers (need to taste food and wine) just seem foolish to me.

They had a shot, and they tried. They weren't right for one another for the long haul.

[nikikass]

It really is interesting to note that Nikki and Juan lasted longer than Andi and Josh.. Go figure.

[sara11]

It really is interesting to note that Nikki and Juan lasted longer than Andi and Josh.. Go figure.  

I highly doubt their relationship ever reached the same depth though ie "i like you a lot"

[SueSt]

It really is interesting to note that Nikki and Juan lasted longer than Andi and Josh.. Go figure.  

WOW, what a point, Nikikass!! Go figure!

[Alanna]

I hope no one takes offense to this, but Andi has a very specific type of personality. She needs a man that is a bit on the weaker side. She seems to like to be in charge, in control and very assertive. Unfortunately, it's a type of personality that can be difficult to handle. As someone else said, I think she's a young 27 and there's not anything necessarily wrong with that. I'm only 23, but if I'm engaged at 27 and have the opportunity to get married and have kids within a couple of years, I would be ecstatic. I just don't think Andi was ready for that where Josh was all in. No matter who she picked from this show, it was going to be difficult due to all of that. I think she wanted a different path than a few of the last guys standing on the show.

I think they loved each other, but sometimes you figure out after trying that it won't work. Josh looked really done on Monday.

Yep. I think she thought that if she got that REAL MAN she was so obsessed with, she could let him "win" and be fine with it but I think they're both too dominant for that. She's going to end up with someone like Deanna's husband 100% imo.

[MiaHawk]

I don't feel sorry for Andi or Josh more than I feel sorry for anyone that ever goes on this show. Everyone knows the chances for finding true love are very slim. Besides, Andi got to sleep with 2 good men.

[Guest]

I"m going to cut her a break.  She's being interviewed live, knows her relatiionship is in a shambles and is under contract to fake it for MF and company for the sake of his red carpet circus.  Anyone might say all kinds of things that sound ridiculous under those circumstances.

I think these two really loved each other.  Sometimes, that's not enough.  Wish them both the best.

I have compassion for them both.  Monday night was Chris Soule's night.  It was right of them to not mention their troubles that night.  They were courteous during the red carpet, even if some thought it was fake.  It was still the ok in that situation.    My intuition has been telling me since about Thanksgiving that some thing was off.  I saw it first in Andi's face in photos now I also see it in Josh.  I have been seeing some pain in both of their faces.   So sorry for both of them, and their families.  My daughter recently went through a break up and it is sad for both families too.  Healing will take a while.  I hope that they don't get bashed too much by the public while they are trying to heal.

[laurentx]

I don't feel sorry for Andi or Josh more than I feel sorry for anyone that ever goes on this show. Everyone knows the chances for finding true love are very slim.  Besides, Andi got to sleep with 2 good men.  

On that note, wonder how Nick is feeling today?

[Ash2214]

I hope no one takes offense to this, but Andi has a very specific type of personality. She needs a man that is a bit on the weaker side. She seems to like to be in charge, in control and very assertive. Unfortunately, it's a type of personality that can be difficult to handle. As someone else said, I think she's a young 27 and there's not anything necessarily wrong with that. I'm only 23, but if I'm engaged at 27 and have the opportunity to get married and have kids within a couple of years, I would be ecstatic. I just don't think Andi was ready for that where Josh was all in. No matter who she picked from this show, it was going to be difficult due to all of that. I think she wanted a different path than a few of the last guys standing on the show.

I think they loved each other, but sometimes you figure out after trying that it won't work. Josh looked really done on Monday.

Yep. I think she thought that if she got that REAL MAN she was so obsessed with, she could let him "win" and be fine with it but I think they're both too dominant for that. She's going to end up with someone like Deanna's husband 100% imo.

We're always in agreement. She needs someone she can be in control of and be dominant with. Like you said, because she loved him and wanted him so badly, she thought she could let go of that. I too think she's going to end up with a very quiet and kind of a weak man that won't stand up to her.

[Kashathediva]

It really is interesting to note that Nikki and Juan lasted longer than Andi and Josh.. Go figure.  

I saw so many similarities between EM and EFFie(JEF), the only difference was JEM had Rikki and the Greenbeans and JODI had Sabel and and and  ---oh ok Advocare.

I actually think she needs a man much stronger than her--like a Rhett Butler to put her in her place. I think Josh was too nice and easily manipulated for her. I think momma finally got Josh to wake up and smell the Jimmy Choo's

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