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Post by mnmhughes Sun Jul 17, 2011 2:52 pm

nutty1 wrote:As a Ben fan, the dark horse thing doesn't thrill me. It seems they are now putting someone else in the mix, to cast doubt on JP. :hidingchair
Sorry Ben fans.....

Didn't Ben say in his latest vlog that he was waiting til HTD's to tell Ash he was in love with her? That's how he's going to start pulling ahead!
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Post by Cecilia Sun Jul 17, 2011 2:54 pm

The dark horse is Ben.
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Post by Shelby Sun Jul 17, 2011 2:55 pm

mnmhughes wrote:
nutty1 wrote:As a Ben fan, the dark horse thing doesn't thrill me. It seems they are now putting someone else in the mix, to cast doubt on JP. :hidingchair
Sorry Ben fans.....

Didn't Ben say in his latest vlog that he was waiting til HTD's to tell Ash he was in love with her? That's how he's going to start pulling ahead!

wellllll

since dino will never ever say that he is in love because he is not

since ames is so very unique that she kept him for that

there is not much choice for the F2 right?


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Post by Diana Sun Jul 17, 2011 2:55 pm

Apprently Ashley tells the guy who tells her he loves her, that she is falling in love with him too. We saw how that ended last season so if it is Ben then I worry for JP that he might be F2.
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Post by mnmhughes Sun Jul 17, 2011 2:56 pm

Titou wrote:
mnmhughes wrote:
nutty1 wrote:As a Ben fan, the dark horse thing doesn't thrill me. It seems they are now putting someone else in the mix, to cast doubt on JP. :hidingchair
Sorry Ben fans.....

Didn't Ben say in his latest vlog that he was waiting til HTD's to tell Ash he was in love with her? That's how he's going to start pulling ahead!

wellllll

since dino will never ever say that he is in love because he is not

since ames is so very unique that she kept him for that

there is not much choice for the F2 right?

I'm just speculating that Ben is going to say it tomorrow night but JP is not, which might give the impression that Ben is pulling ahead. yes
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Post by ironcat Sun Jul 17, 2011 2:57 pm

Diana wrote:Apprently Ashley tells the guy who tells her he loves her, that she is falling in love with him too. We saw how that ended last season so if it is Ben then I worry for JP that he might be F2.

I hadn't heard this. What source is it from?

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Post by bluwavz Sun Jul 17, 2011 2:58 pm

mnmhughes wrote:
nutty1 wrote:As a Ben fan, the dark horse thing doesn't thrill me. It seems they are now putting someone else in the mix, to cast doubt on JP. :hidingchair
Sorry Ben fans.....

Didn't Ben say in his latest vlog that he was waiting til HTD's to tell Ash he was in love with her? That's how he's going to start pulling ahead!

I'm worried what her reaction is going to look like if he does says it. If it's anything than thrilled, then I'll really believe her when she says she was 95% sure who her F1 was. :laughingoutlou
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Post by albean99 Sun Jul 17, 2011 2:58 pm

nutty1 wrote:As a Ben fan, the dark horse thing doesn't thrill me. It seems they are now putting someone else in the mix, to cast doubt on JP. :hidingchair
Sorry Ben fans.....

You may be right but it could also be true. Nobody seems to believe it so perhaps they're telling us the truth but knowing they'll still get their drama in the end. They had the perfect opportunity to shove Ben at us last episode yet CH downplayed the overnight date. That didn't make sense to me but it does fit with the dark horse thing. Whether it happens that the dark horse wins or not remains to be seen but I do think there's an argument to be made for both guys.

by Diana on Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:55 pm

Apprently Ashley tells the guy who tells her he loves her, that she is falling in love with him too. We saw how that ended last season so if it is Ben then I worry for JP that he might be F2.

Where did you hear that, Diana?


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Post by Shelby Sun Jul 17, 2011 2:58 pm

mnmhughes wrote:
Titou wrote:
mnmhughes wrote:
nutty1 wrote:As a Ben fan, the dark horse thing doesn't thrill me. It seems they are now putting someone else in the mix, to cast doubt on JP. :hidingchair
Sorry Ben fans.....

Didn't Ben say in his latest vlog that he was waiting til HTD's to tell Ash he was in love with her? That's how he's going to start pulling ahead!

wellllll

since dino will never ever say that he is in love because he is not

since ames is so very unique that she kept him for that

there is not much choice for the F2 right?

I'm just speculating that Ben is going to say it tomorrow night but JP is not, which might give the impression that Ben is pulling ahead. yes

I know what you are saying... I did not quote you to be sarcastic at all ;) yes


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Post by Samantharose Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:07 pm

albean99 wrote:
ironcat wrote:
albean99 wrote:
ironcat wrote:
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ironcat wrote:I agree that Ashley is going to say in retrospect she knew from the beginning who she wanted, whether it is true or not. But I don't get why she would say that viewers should be able to have figured it out by now if it's Ben, unless it's a deliberate attempt to mislead. She must know that the overwhelming majority of the viewing public at this moment is seeing her connection with JP only, and for some, Ben is still being confused with Dino.


Well if Ashley is in love with Ben she'd be looking at their dates and thinking "how could they not tell what I was feeling?". Ditto if it's JP. I have a feeling there's a tendency for the lead to gloss over what they had with the f2 person with what they say and even watching themselves. Sort of rewriting history in their minds.

JP apparently didn't leave too much of an impression on Ashley immediately after Bentley left, Sjcalifgurl. She said herself that she wasn't able to give him her full attention on their 1st date and wanted to make it up to him. Obviously for whatever reason, Bentley did something for her and she was extremely upset when he left. I have no idea if she was really heartbroken but we saw her reaction so looks like she thought, so short time or not.

That Ashley could fall so fast for Bentley does make me think that no guy is out of it. A late bloomer can still win her heart. :awesome:

Along those same lines, I guess Ben wasn't leaving much of an impression on Ashley during their Taiwan date, if she admitted she spent half of the date worrying about how the other guys would react to her staying overnight with him.

She actually said part of not 1/2.

Fair enough. And by that same token, she said she couldn't give JP her full attention, so maybe she meant she could only give him 95%. Smiley

:laughingoutlou She seemed to feel very bad for it so kind of doubt it. I'm not saying she didn't develop feelings for JP but she clearly wasn't herself that night. If she was less devastated than she made out she'd probably have tried harder to look better.

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Yay! Dark horse time. :missclap:

Regarding the bolded. I think her not trying harder to look better made JP step up his game. Its a good way to gage how into you a guy really is. I'm just guessing here, but I bet he's not used to that type of response from women. LOL! I think her vulnerability in that moment, spoke to the maleness in him. They were hugging on each other from the moment he got there. LOL I've read far to many romance novels!!
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Post by Shelby Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:14 pm

Samantharose wrote:
albean99 wrote:
ironcat wrote:
albean99 wrote:
ironcat wrote:
albean99 wrote:
ironcat wrote:I agree that Ashley is going to say in retrospect she knew from the beginning who she wanted, whether it is true or not. But I don't get why she would say that viewers should be able to have figured it out by now if it's Ben, unless it's a deliberate attempt to mislead. She must know that the overwhelming majority of the viewing public at this moment is seeing her connection with JP only, and for some, Ben is still being confused with Dino.


Well if Ashley is in love with Ben she'd be looking at their dates and thinking "how could they not tell what I was feeling?". Ditto if it's JP. I have a feeling there's a tendency for the lead to gloss over what they had with the f2 person with what they say and even watching themselves. Sort of rewriting history in their minds.

JP apparently didn't leave too much of an impression on Ashley immediately after Bentley left, Sjcalifgurl. She said herself that she wasn't able to give him her full attention on their 1st date and wanted to make it up to him. Obviously for whatever reason, Bentley did something for her and she was extremely upset when he left. I have no idea if she was really heartbroken but we saw her reaction so looks like she thought, so short time or not.

That Ashley could fall so fast for Bentley does make me think that no guy is out of it. A late bloomer can still win her heart. :awesome:

Along those same lines, I guess Ben wasn't leaving much of an impression on Ashley during their Taiwan date, if she admitted she spent half of the date worrying about how the other guys would react to her staying overnight with him.

She actually said part of not 1/2.

Fair enough. And by that same token, she said she couldn't give JP her full attention, so maybe she meant she could only give him 95%. Smiley

:laughingoutlou She seemed to feel very bad for it so kind of doubt it. I'm not saying she didn't develop feelings for JP but she clearly wasn't herself that night. If she was less devastated than she made out she'd probably have tried harder to look better.

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Yay! Dark horse time. :missclap:

Regarding the bolded. I think her not trying harder to look better made JP step up his game. Its a good way to gage how into you a guy really is. I'm just guessing here, but I bet he's not used to that type of response from women. LOL! I think her vulnerability in that moment, spoke to the maleness in him. They were hugging on each other from the moment he got there. LOL I've read far to many romance novels!!

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Post by nutty1 Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:27 pm

My point was that we all know Ben is the dark horse, and they'll want people to think he goes galloping ahead to win.


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