Update on the *Possible* F1/F2

Pattycake92 wrote:Im just wondering if we had any sightings of JP, would we disregard them?Especially so many. Maybe Ashley will apply for her New York dental license and put this to bed.

ETA: if she was out there doing media, wouldn't it be in the media?

Do you happen to have a list of the "so many" sightings of Ben..........just curious. I can't seem to see a listing of them anywhere else and wondered if you had that list.

As far as media stunts, maybe they were for the show and that's why we haven't seen anyhting yet. Bottom line, I just think that there are too many questions out there regarding the status of which guy is the F1 that all things need to be questioned as there are IMO a lot of loose ends.......I could be wrong?????

Pattycake92 wrote:

albean99 wrote:No sightings of Ben were confirmed. I'm assuming the meeting on Friday did happen but as I said before, Ashley was probably filming the MTA video that day. The tweet sightings on Sat & Mon were just random and not confirmed by pics. The thing on Sunday was supposed to be something with Elan, the producer, but we know that could be a cover up.

The comment about Ben being the dark horse that "slowly but surely captivated Ashley" is very interesting. Sounds very f1-ish. :Nod:

I guess all these random people made it up and posted it on twitter. Maybe MF has a very large payroll and paid all these random people like the student who saw him during the fireworks show or the mom who saw him at the farmers market. Funny how he didn't pay anyone to post fake sightings of JP all weekend.

Pattycake92 Good post and logic.

Coastal wrote:

Pattycake92 wrote:Im just wondering if we had any sightings of JP, would we disregard them?Especially so many. Maybe Ashley will apply for her New York dental license and put this to bed.

ETA: if she was out there doing media, wouldn't it be in the media?

Do you happen to have a list of the "so many" sightings of Ben..........just curious. I can't seem to see a listing of them anywhere else and wondered if you had that list.

As far as media stunts, maybe they were for the show and that's why we haven't seen anyhting yet. Bottom line, I just think that there are too many questions out there regarding the status of which guy is the F1 that all things need to be questioned as there are IMO a lot of loose ends.......I could be wrong?????

They're all listed in either Ben's thread, or in the Facebook and Tweets Media thread. You will have to go back a few pages to last weekend's sightings. They were posted as soon as we saw them pop up on Twitter.

Just curious, if the tweet that Elan and Ben were wine tasting and it was a possible cover for Ben, why would they delete that tweet then? wouldn't that defeat the purpose of tweeting it to begin with? Just doesn't make sense to me. IMO

chaslom4 wrote:Just curious, if the tweet that Elan and Ben were wine tasting and it was a possible cover for Ben, why would they delete that tweet then? wouldn't that defeat the purpose of tweeting it to begin with? Just doesn't make sense to me. IMO

Yep, can't be both ways, now can it?

mnmhughes wrote:

Coastal wrote:

Pattycake92 wrote:Im just wondering if we had any sightings of JP, would we disregard them?Especially so many. Maybe Ashley will apply for her New York dental license and put this to bed.

ETA: if she was out there doing media, wouldn't it be in the media?

Do you happen to have a list of the "so many" sightings of Ben..........just curious. I can't seem to see a listing of them anywhere else and wondered if you had that list.

As far as media stunts, maybe they were for the show and that's why we haven't seen anyhting yet. Bottom line, I just think that there are too many questions out there regarding the status of which guy is the F1 that all things need to be questioned as there are IMO a lot of loose ends.......I could be wrong?????

They're all listed in either Ben's thread, or in the Facebook and Tweets Media thread. You will have to go back a few pages to last weekend's sightings. They were posted as soon as we saw them pop up on Twitter.

Well I just searched for the word "meeting" in both Ben's thread from June 26 on and al of the new FB/Twitter thread. The only mentions of "meeting" in Ben's thread were about JP and Ashley meeting in the safehouse. And the "meeting" mentions in the new FB/Twitter thread were first Ashley S's comments about Ben tweeting, then about Ashley meeting Reid before she filmed and finally about something else but I forgot because it also wasn't what I was looking for.

So, no "meeting" hits on Ben having a "meeting" with anyone in those 2 threads since the week before the 4th.

BTW, the site search function will only return threads and not posts which is why I did the manual searches.

Lavender, check out the Evolve Wines Facebook wall. A grower wrote about that meeting.

I guess I'm confused why TPTB would go to all this effort with fake sightings by 3 unrelated people of Ben and get Elan in on it and not do any sightings for JP then? It's true JP could have been anywhere but IMO Ben was definitely not with Ashley.

lavenderred wrote:

mnmhughes wrote:

Coastal wrote:

Pattycake92 wrote:Im just wondering if we had any sightings of JP, would we disregard them?Especially so many. Maybe Ashley will apply for her New York dental license and put this to bed.

ETA: if she was out there doing media, wouldn't it be in the media?

Do you happen to have a list of the "so many" sightings of Ben..........just curious. I can't seem to see a listing of them anywhere else and wondered if you had that list.

As far as media stunts, maybe they were for the show and that's why we haven't seen anyhting yet. Bottom line, I just think that there are too many questions out there regarding the status of which guy is the F1 that all things need to be questioned as there are IMO a lot of loose ends.......I could be wrong?????

They're all listed in either Ben's thread, or in the Facebook and Tweets Media thread. You will have to go back a few pages to last weekend's sightings. They were posted as soon as we saw them pop up on Twitter.

Well I just searched for the word "meeting" in both Ben's thread from June 26 on and al of the new FB/Twitter thread. The only mentions of "meeting" in Ben's thread were about JP and Ashley meeting in the safehouse. And the "meeting" mentions in the new FB/Twitter thread were first Ashley S's comments about Ben tweeting, then about Ashley meeting Reid before she filmed and finally about something else but I forgot because it also wasn't what I was looking for.

So, no "meeting" hits on Ben having a "meeting" with anyone in those 2 threads since the week before the 4th.

BTW, the site search function will only return threads and not posts which is why I did the manual searches.

Sorry, all the tweets are there. I'm pretty sure they didn't use the word "meeting" which might be why you can't find them. I would suggest you go back to last weekend's posts, since that's when the safehouse weekend occurred.

Gina wrote:

Pattycake92 wrote:
I guess all these random people made it up and posted it on twitter. Maybe MF has a very large payroll and paid all these random people like the student who saw him during the fireworks show or the mom who saw him at the farmers market. Funny how he didn't pay anyone to post fake sightings of JP all weekend.

Pattycake92 Good post and logic.

Agree with this too. For me...all the small things add up to the big thing, which is JP being F1. I haven't seen anything, besides some guy named Ronell naming him as F1 when he feels like it, adding up for Ben being F1. But that's just me.

This whole thread reminds me of a great quote from a movie character named Regina George..."Gretchen, stop trying to make fetch happen. It's not going to happen!" Don't know why...but it reminds me of that!!

klarson79 wrote:

Gina wrote:

Pattycake92 wrote:
I guess all these random people made it up and posted it on twitter. Maybe MF has a very large payroll and paid all these random people like the student who saw him during the fireworks show or the mom who saw him at the farmers market. Funny how he didn't pay anyone to post fake sightings of JP all weekend.

Pattycake92 Good post and logic.

Agree with this too. For me...all the small things add up to the big thing, which is JP being F1. I haven't seen anything, besides some guy named Ronell naming him as F1 when he feels like it, adding up for Ben being F1. But that's just me.

This whole thread reminds me of a great quote from a movie character named Regina George..."Gretchen, stop trying to make fetch happen. It's not going to happen!" Don't know why...but it reminds me of that!!

Mean Girls!!!! :D

there was the one on Ben's FB from the grower about a meeting and also the tweet between Elan and Ben that was deleted. These were either Fri. or Sat. I believe.

Here are the other two that I found

according2alexa
can't believe @caitzillla met Ben F from #bachelorette today! so patriotic!
about 7 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone

This is one that Pattycake found

Ben from the bachelorette at the ferry building farmers market. Much cuter in person! #suchagroupie

This lady lives in San Fran. This on Sat. JUly 2nd

lavenderred wrote:

Pattycake92 wrote:

Sorry, one more question........how do we know for absolutely sure she wasn't with Ben??

In the past, they haven't been allowed to leave the safe house. Ben was seen every day over the weekend and someone else confirmed that he had a business meeting. I think we can say for sure that Ashley didn't spend last weekend with Ben.

I try to keep up with the Ben threads and I must have missed something about a business meeting over the 4th weekend.

Can you tell me where that information was posted?

Thanks!

Hi lavenderred: I posted that I saw on the evolve FB a post from a vineyard that the guy had a business meeting with Ben and his partner "today". It was dated July 1. I took this most seriously as it was posted to evole's FB. However, I have heard of two twitter sightings, not sure where the "lots of people have seen Ben" comes in. I am more skeptical of random tweets from folks. It could even be an MF smokescreen. As albean has posted, Ben could have attended this meeting while Ash was meeting with CH. She was on the west coast presumably from Weds evening til Tues am. Lots of time with F1 even with him possibly having to take a short day trip to NCal LOL!!! Who knows, MF may be encouraging this to throw everyone off track. The fact that we have no twitter news on JP means little to me. It is random and may not be correct and he may have just gone out of NYC since July 4 is his favorite holiday.