Re: Nick Viall Bachelorette 10 - *Fan Forum* - *Spoilers* - Discussion - Thread #2

[Guest]

Head vs. Heart

people assume it's a battle between 2 people and who to choose ...
but it's not ... you can have the inner battle of what you think and what you feel about certain person ...
and at the end what you feel might prevail over the thoughts ... over the fears ...
but it might still not be defining reason to choose that person,
meaning ...
for a real, genuine, honest, passionate, mature-serious-for-family relationship you need 3 spheres:
body, mind and soul
=
chemistry/physical attraction, mental connection (understanding of each other) and being emotionally one piece that completes the other (yin/yang)

the battle between the heart and mind usually happens, when all those 3 spheres don't connect, when you lack of one or two.

With Nick I see all of them ... maybe for most viewers, who root for some other guy, they don't see the chemistry between these 2 kids, but I do and it might not be shown to be off the charts, like they try to show it with Josh, but there is enough of it to not be dismissed and underestimated.
Of course I'm not 100% convinced that she chose Nick, and if she didn't all of us here will sleep just fine, but I do believe it would be shame to let this opportunity slip away, because when something feels good all the time, and you can wake up with no doubt in mind that this is working, and that you are communicating the right way, that there is understanding that can overcome any obstacle that comes your way ... then I would quote Nick:
"I would meet someone, and we would both say, we don't want to find anyone else, we could, but we don't want to, and we want to make it work and cherish that, ..."
Exactly, cherish it every day, live to the fullest, be open, be vulnerable, love ...

great post happy!...thanks for the inspirations...  .
To the bolded, i regard episode 3 as the milestone of their Great Love Storyline..and there is a reason why they shown us that quote from Nick as the last convo on their date.   . Its the backbone of their entire journey. It really is an epic story...and will reach the climax at FRC for sure. Andi's side/her reciprocating already started on epis. 8 and will become full circle at FRC  . see, IMO Nick is the FIR guy and he will be the FR (Final Rose) guy.   . The circle of love. The 'elephant' of the season.   

oh no worries!..there is no way Fleiss will 'waste' the main Storyline that they have built in details eversince episode 1 to only get crash and burn in the end. No freakin way....  . When the foilers sitting nicely out there, they will show us the comprehensive Love Story. :strings1 ( One thing i learned from Des's season.)

[unknown82]

It was lovely to see Nick's hometown date.  His whole family was so lovely and I enjoyed the interaction between Nick and his Mother.....a very sweet and tender moment.  Nick and Andi are really perfect for each other and I absolutely loved their intimate and tender moment when they were saying goodbye to each other.   After this episode, I am even more convinced that Nick is F1.  It was a very revealing hometown date. :cutesmile!:

[unknown82]

Head vs. Heart

people assume it's a battle between 2 people and who to choose ...
but it's not ... you can have the inner battle of what you think and what you feel about certain person ...
and at the end what you feel might prevail over the thoughts ... over the fears ...
but it might still not be defining reason to choose that person,
meaning ...
for a real, genuine, honest, passionate, mature-serious-for-family relationship you need 3 spheres:
body, mind and soul
=
chemistry/physical attraction, mental connection (understanding of each other) and being emotionally one piece that completes the other (yin/yang)

the battle between the heart and mind usually happens, when all those 3 spheres don't connect, when you lack of one or two.

With Nick I see all of them ... maybe for most viewers, who root for some other guy, they don't see the chemistry between these 2 kids, but I do and it might not be shown to be off the charts, like they try to show it with Josh, but there is enough of it to not be dismissed and underestimated.
Of course I'm not 100% convinced that she chose Nick, and if she didn't all of us here will sleep just fine, but I do believe it would be shame to let this opportunity slip away, because when something feels good all the time, and you can wake up with no doubt in mind that this is working, and that you are communicating the right way, that there is understanding that can overcome any obstacle that comes your way ... then I would quote Nick:
"I would meet someone, and we would both say, we don't want to find anyone else, we could, but we don't want to, and we want to make it work and cherish that, ..."
Exactly, cherish it every day, live to the fullest, be open, be vulnerable, love ...

great post happy!...thanks for the inspirations...  .
To the bolded, i regard episode 3 as the milestone of their Great Love Storyline..and there is a reason why they shown us that quote from Nick as the last convo on their date.   . Its the backbone of their entire journey. It really is an epic story...and will reach the climax at FRC for sure. Andi's side/her reciprocating already started on epis. 8 and will become full circle at FRC  . see, IMO Nick is the FIR guy and he will be the FR (Final Rose) guy.   . The circle of love. The 'elephant' of the season.   

oh no worries!..there is no way Fleiss will 'waste' the main Storyline that they have built in details eversince episode 1 to only get crash and burn in the end. No freakin way....  . When the foilers sitting nicely out there, they will show us the comprehensive Love Story. :strings1 ( One thing i learned from Des's season.)

 

[nutty1]

Nicholas Viall ‏@viallnicholas28 7h
most days I'm still reminded of something unique and special that Eric did in our short time together. #alwaysonmymind #LiveLikeEric

[SueSt]

When speaking with his mom Nick says:
I don't want to be that person who's had his heart broke before in the past and that won't live his life to the fullest because he's afraid to put himself out there.
In the context of the episode around Eric's passing - Is there a more appropriate sentiment??
Very sweet!
#LivinglikeEric....

[SueSt]

SM is atleast somewhat getting a clue as I saw alot of "oh Nick's not bad after all" type tweets. Of course there were still the sheep who demand he be sent home because he is a terrible person SMH. I really loved his HTD. Gosh his family is insane (in a good way). And for his mom to look the way she does after what 11 kids?!!!!!!!!!!!! Watching Nick just let loose and get to be goofy without the fear of getting a beat down later when the date ended was just so refreshing. He and Andi were just so easy going and "normal." He took her around his hometown and just kept it casual while still fun. I noticed with his date he didn't do something that screamed "LOOK AT ME" ie flying a plane dedication, or doing a baseball date (2nd yr in a row with one of those) or a strip tease. Not that anything was wrong with any of that but it is nice to see he kept it simple and about the "little things" as seems to be a theme for him. Even Andi mentioned last week in her blog how when Nick snuck out to see her, he wanted to just go for a walk, not to a pool or hot tub or Ocean. I like Andi more when I see her around Nick, her personality is more relaxed and pleasant. I did get a lump in my throat though when the sister was talking to Andi and she was tearing up at the possibility of Nick having another heartbreak. And then when they were saying goodbye and she asked him "what?" and he kept saying nothing. It was so cute because he knew she knew what he wanted to say....He was so busted . I also noticed during the revealing about Eric when the producers came in, I saw Nick in Elan in a very very long embrace, I mean obviously everyone was there for each other but I do remember seeing speculation of Elan being Nick's handler and that long embrace made me think maybe that is true.

Great analysis Monica. Thanks so much for sharing.
I love your comments about the "little things" and being normal - it's what makes Nick real and gives me hope that N&A may have a genuine shot at a future together.

[SueSt]

It was lovely to see Nick's hometown date.  His whole family was so lovely and I enjoyed the interaction between Nick and his Mother.....a very sweet and tender moment.  Nick and Andi are really perfect for each other and I absolutely loved their intimate and tender moment when they were saying goodbye to each other.   After this episode, I am even more convinced that Nick is F1.  It was a very revealing hometown date. :cutesmile!:

I agree unknown. Very sweet that Nick was so at ease and able to share the more open and outgoing side of himself with Andi. I also loved the interaction he had with both of his sisters, Maria and Bella - it was obvious that they love each other very very much. Agree it was revealing - wish TPTB had revealed MORE!!!!

[Cecilia]

I wish for his sake that he is F1.  We learned a lot about Nick, including that his past relationships have ended in heartbreak for him.  Not going to be fun to watch him getting his heartbroken.  If the spoilers are wrong, it will be awesome.  But, I can't get over the video.

[SueSt]

Head vs. Heart

people assume it's a battle between 2 people and who to choose ...
but it's not ... you can have the inner battle of what you think and what you feel about certain person ...
and at the end what you feel might prevail over the thoughts ... over the fears ...
but it might still not be defining reason to choose that person,
meaning ...
for a real, genuine, honest, passionate, mature-serious-for-family relationship you need 3 spheres:
body, mind and soul
=
chemistry/physical attraction, mental connection (understanding of each other) and being emotionally one piece that completes the other (yin/yang)

the battle between the heart and mind usually happens, when all those 3 spheres don't connect, when you lack of one or two.

With Nick I see all of them ... maybe for most viewers, who root for some other guy, they don't see the chemistry between these 2 kids, but I do and it might not be shown to be off the charts, like they try to show it with Josh, but there is enough of it to not be dismissed and underestimated.
Of course I'm not 100% convinced that she chose Nick, and if she didn't all of us here will sleep just fine, but I do believe it would be shame to let this opportunity slip away, because when something feels good all the time, and you can wake up with no doubt in mind that this is working, and that you are communicating the right way, that there is understanding that can overcome any obstacle that comes your way ... then I would quote Nick:
"I would meet someone, and we would both say, we don't want to find anyone else, we could, but we don't want to, and we want to make it work and cherish that, ..."
Exactly, cherish it every day, live to the fullest, be open, be vulnerable, love ...

Great post, Happy - yes N&A have it all. Keep hearts open!!

[SueSt]

great post happy!...thanks for the inspirations...  .
To the bolded, i regard episode 3 as the milestone of their Great Love Storyline..and there is a reason why they shown us that quote from Nick as the last convo on their date.   . Its the backbone of their entire journey. It really is an epic story...and will reach the climax at FRC for sure. Andi's side/her reciprocating already started on epis. 8 and will become full circle at FRC  . see, IMO Nick is the FIR guy and he will be the FR (Final Rose) guy.   . The circle of love. The 'elephant' of the season.   

oh no worries!..there is no way Fleiss will 'waste' the main Storyline that they have built in details eversince episode 1 to only get crash and burn in the end. No freakin way....  . When the foilers sitting nicely out there, they will show us the comprehensive Love Story. :strings1 ( One thing i learned from Des's season.)

Grrrrreat point, Mura   

[emad0722]

I wish for his sake that he is F1.  We learned a lot about Nick, including that his past relationships has ended in heartbreak for him.  Not going to be fun to watch him getting his heartbroken.  If the spoilers are wrong, it will be awesome.  But, I can't get over the video.

i wish i didn't agree cecilia but I do you will have to find him in chicago and buy him a drink cause i know he will be broken again

[nutty1]

I think he was heartbroken, but is totally fine now, outside the bubble.
There are going to be a lot of girls wanting to be on the receiving end of Nick's love and compassion! One girl is going to be very lucky!!

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