Re: The Bachelorette 10 - Videos- Youtube - *Spoilers* - Discussion - Thread #2

[pander3575]

I so remember Ash with Ben in FS when she threw her leg over Ben and then JK had to show it to JP  :shocked!: Awkward!

[soccermom333]

Maybe Ironcat but we have yet to see her on the FS dates and at the LCD.  Usually by the last LCD you can tell what direction the lead's heart is going.  At that point she is definitely "leading on," her final 2.  

Right.  LCDs come after the guys meet her family.  I agree that by that point she will most likely have made her final commitment to one guy in her head and heart, and we SHOULD see a slight pull back with the other, but you never know how it will be handled.  I think Ashley was encouraged/manipulated (liquored up?) to ramp it up more with Ben precisely because she had previously been so circumspect with him, and the producers wanted to be sure he'd think she was in love and would propose.  Andi won't have that problem with her F2, she's already given him plenty of "convincing physical evidence".   

Good point about Ashley. I remember thinking whoa, and was a little taken back by Ashley and her interaction with Ben. But.... she had a show to complete. Andi has Nick convinced already (in fact 2 shows ago)    so it will be interesting to see. ;) Tptb also have to keep the viewers guessing so I am sure there will be some "acting," with Andi and her final 2.

[ironcat]

Nick is definitely convinced he's Andi's favorite, he already told his mother. I wouldn't be surprised if those exact words were told to him by a producer already, and since we know that they mislead the anticipated runner up into being overconfident, this would possibly indicate that the producers knew she was favoring Josh at this point, but wanted to be sure Nick stayed "on the hook".

[Kashathediva]

Nick is definitely convinced he's Andi's favorite, he already told his mother.  I wouldn't be surprised if those exact words were told to him by a producer already, and since we know that they mislead the anticipated runner up into being overconfident, this would possibly indicate that the producers knew she was favoring Josh at this point, but wanted to be sure Nick stayed "on the hook".

Just a further reminder: TPTB are not their friends. They have a goal to be met. There are always ulterior motives.  

[soccermom333]

 

Nick is definitely convinced he's Andi's favorite, he already told his mother.  I wouldn't be surprised if those exact words were told to him by a producer already, and since we know that they mislead the anticipated runner up into being overconfident, this would possibly indicate that the producers knew she was favoring Josh at this point, but wanted to be sure Nick stayed "on the hook".

   Great post ironcat!

[pander3575]

Nick is definitely convinced he's Andi's favorite, he already told his mother.  I wouldn't be surprised if those exact words were told to him by a producer already, and since we know that they mislead the anticipated runner up into being overconfident, this would possibly indicate that the producers knew she was favoring Josh at this point, but wanted to be sure Nick stayed "on the hook".

Just a further reminder: TPTB are not their friends. They have a goal to be met. There are always ulterior motives.  

I'd be fired if I was a producer since I just couldn't do it.

[Alanna]

Nick is definitely convinced he's Andi's favorite, he already told his mother.  I wouldn't be surprised if those exact words were told to him by a producer already, and since we know that they mislead the anticipated runner up into being overconfident, this would possibly indicate that the producers knew she was favoring Josh at this point, but wanted to be sure Nick stayed "on the hook".

Just a further reminder: TPTB are not their friends. They have a goal to be met. There are always ulterior motives.  

Idk it's all Stockholm Syndrome-y, even years after the show is over. Ashley was messed with more than most leads thanks to Bentley but they wanted Chris to marry them and Élan seems to truly be a really close friend to both, especially JP. In fact it seems more rare that there's real conflict/dislike with tptb like JPG than the opposite. Andi is already tweeting love for Chris and his therapy sessions. And we saw how they were getting comforted like a bewildered herd of animals by production last episode instead of consoling each other. Due to the fake and weird nature of the bubble, their relationships are pretty interesting beyond "not friends" IMO.

[Kashathediva]

Yes, there are quite a few cast who do remain close with some of the producers, but there are quite a few--who never want anything to do with any of TPTB. Most people just don't hear about it.

[nannymargie]

Nick is definitely convinced he's Andi's favorite, he already told his mother.  I wouldn't be surprised if those exact words were told to him by a producer already, and since we know that they mislead the anticipated runner up into being overconfident, this would possibly indicate that the producers knew she was favoring Josh at this point, but wanted to be sure Nick stayed "on the hook".

Very good point.

[Guest]

I don't think it was an act with Nick or even Marcus; I think Andi found herself attracted to both guys, Marcus largely physical, Nick largely emotional, and since it's the lead's "job" to make out with these guys anyway, she had no problem performing it well.  I doubt she was thinking of the consequences regarding either angering her eventual F1 or leading her F2 on only too well until perhaps the very end.  And I also suspect that she decided she wouldn't completely, unequivocally make her final choice, even though she had her favorite, until she got her family's approval, which of course gave her free reign to "live in the moment" with each guy.  Some leads aren't comfortable doing this (Meredith and Ashley come to mind), but Andi seemed to relish it.  Lucky girl.  :giggle: 

I agree she was hugely attracted to Nick but disagree there is nothing as deep or deeper with Josh! BL talks to me more and kisses in the neck or on the nose tell me more than passionate embraces.

JMO

[Guest]

Maybe Ironcat but we have yet to see her on the FS dates and at the LCD.  Usually by the last LCD you can tell what direction the lead's heart is going.  At that point she is definitely "leading on," her final 2.  

Right.  LCDs come after the guys meet her family.  I agree that by that point she will most likely have made her final commitment to one guy in her head and heart, and we SHOULD see a slight pull back with the other, but you never know how it will be handled.  I think Ashley was encouraged/manipulated (liquored up?) to ramp it up more with Ben precisely because she had previously been so circumspect with him, and the producers wanted to be sure he'd think she was in love and would propose.  Andi won't have that problem with her F2, she's already given him plenty of "convincing physical evidence".   

  

[nannymargie]

I don't think it was an act with Nick or even Marcus; I think Andi found herself attracted to both guys, Marcus largely physical, Nick largely emotional, and since it's the lead's "job" to make out with these guys anyway, she had no problem performing it well.  I doubt she was thinking of the consequences regarding either angering her eventual F1 or leading her F2 on only too well until perhaps the very end.  And I also suspect that she decided she wouldn't completely, unequivocally make her final choice, even though she had her favorite, until she got her family's approval, which of course gave her free reign to "live in the moment" with each guy.  Some leads aren't comfortable doing this (Meredith and Ashley come to mind), but Andi seemed to relish it.  Lucky girl.  :giggle: 

I agree she was hugely attracted to Nick but disagree there is nothing as deep or deeper with Josh! BL talks to me more and kisses in the neck or on the nose tell me more than passionate embraces.

JMO

I would like to add wiping the tears from his face and on the FD wiping his forehead of sweat. She is already acting like a loving wife. IMO

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