Re: Nick Viall - Bachelorette 10 Contestant - Spoilers - Discussion - Thread #3

[missjayne]

Nick's just a little too confident in this sneak peek for the next weeks episode.  The drama continues....

http://abc.go.com/shows/the-bachelorette/video/PL5556208/VDKA0_nvotfcs3

I just watched this again...it's spliced a bit esp toward the end...edited to make what he says look worse. It def doesn't look as bad the second time you watch it. He is responding to something..like in defense mode.

[IrishGal]

So why are they editing both the F2 as arrogant and self-centered?

[missjayne]

So why are they editing both the F2 as arrogant and self-centered?

Why wouldn't they? I guess for drama, suspense? To present doubt? For F1 Josh it's the whole athlete trust player issue, for F2 the conflict is arrogance and being disliked by the other guys.

[MVMom39forever]

Honestly the more I read and see, it seems less like anything Nick was doing and more that Andi was favoring Nick whether intentionally or not and that was pissing the guys off which I mean, it's just ridiculous to hate on the guy for her choices. It would also explain why once out of the "Bachelor bubble" where they were no longer clouded by this idea that they wanted to be with Andi so much, they've all been able to be friends with him.

I really think for all the "Bro code", "bromance", the guys started making their competitive natures get the best of them and jealousies came into play which unfortunately for Nick, he became an easy target when it seemed like Andi was favoring him.

I can't wait for next week to see how it will be spun as Nick is manipulative and awful when the simple truth will be that Andi decided to give him the second 1 on 1 before anyone, she willingly went off with him at the rose ceremony and was all too happy to play tonsil hockey with him and she will be the one giving him the group date rose to spend more time with him.

Exactly!!!!!

[MVMom39forever]

So why are they editing both the F2 as arrogant and self-centered?

Why wouldn't they? I guess for drama, suspense? To present doubt? For F1 Josh it's the whole athlete trust player issue, for F2 the conflict is arrogance and being disliked by the other guys.

What I find interesting is Nick's conflicts have been largely due to the guys jealousies and recognizing that Nick is getting special attention from Andi ... FIR, first second 1-on-1, GDR, alone time when Eric left and in no hurry to return to cocktail party after Nick swept her away.

Whereas Andi's conflict with Josh is always between the two of them. They seem to butt heads and don't communicate/resolve issues nearly as well as Nick & Andi. Old Josh must have gotten rusty being that he has not had relationship for 5 years.

I went from thinking Nick was F1 to thinking spoiler probably right now back to thinking foiler makes more sense with Nick f1.

Or if Josh is f1, hope their next stop is VH1 Couples Therapy.

[nutty1]

So why are they editing both the F2 as arrogant and self-centered?

Why wouldn't they? I guess for drama, suspense? To present doubt? For F1 Josh it's the whole athlete trust player issue, for F2 the conflict is arrogance and being disliked by the other guys.

What I find interesting is Nick's conflicts have been largely due to the guys jealousies and recognizing that Nick is getting special attention from Andi ... FIR, first second 1-on-1, GDR, alone time when Eric left and in no hurry to return to cocktail party after Nick swept her away.

Whereas Andi's conflict with Josh is always between the two of them. They seem to butt heads and don't communicate/resolve issues nearly as well as Nick & Andi. Old Josh must have gotten rusty being that he has not had relationship for 5 years.

I went from thinking Nick was F1 to thinking spoiler probably right now back to thinking foiler makes more sense with Nick f1.

Or if Josh is f1, hope their next stop is VH1 Couples Therapy.

    

[Guest]

So why are they editing both the F2 as arrogant and self-centered?

Why wouldn't they? I guess for drama, suspense? To present doubt? For F1 Josh it's the whole athlete trust player issue, for F2 the conflict is arrogance and being disliked by the other guys.

What I find interesting is Nick's conflicts have been largely due to the guys jealousies and recognizing that Nick is getting special attention from Andi ... FIR, first second 1-on-1, GDR, alone time when Eric left and in no hurry to return to cocktail party after Nick swept her away.

Whereas Andi's conflict with Josh is always between the two of them. They seem to butt heads and don't communicate/resolve issues nearly as well as Nick & Andi. Old Josh must have gotten rusty being that he has not had relationship for 5 years.

I went from thinking Nick was F1 to thinking spoiler probably right now back to thinking foiler makes more sense with Nick f1.

Or if Josh is f1, hope their next stop is VH1 Couples Therapy.

Great Post!!  I've thought the bolded several times already.   

[Brill]

So why are they editing both the F2 as arrogant and self-centered?

Why wouldn't they? I guess for drama, suspense? To present doubt? For F1 Josh it's the whole athlete trust player issue, for F2 the conflict is arrogance and being disliked by the other guys.

What I find interesting is Nick's conflicts have been largely due to the guys jealousies and recognizing that Nick is getting special attention from Andi ... FIR, first second 1-on-1, GDR, alone time when Eric left and in no hurry to return to cocktail party after Nick swept her away.

Whereas Andi's conflict with Josh is always between the two of them. They seem to butt heads and don't communicate/resolve issues nearly as well as Nick & Andi. Old Josh must have gotten rusty being that he has not had relationship for 5 years.

I went from thinking Nick was F1 to thinking spoiler probably right now back to thinking foiler makes more sense with Nick f1.

Or if Josh is f1, hope their next stop is VH1 Couples Therapy.

The bolded part slays me every time it is mentioned, either here or by Josh himself.   I wonder if that comment was for his Mommy!!  

[sdmom]

Found this picture from Camp Hometown Heroes facebook:
Last night, Nick participated in a very cause-worthy event:
(yeah, he's such a bitter immature arrogant selfish guy...NOT !)

#theymademekissthebuffalo

[albean99]

I can't figure out the edit either. It's not usual for the f2 to get a negative edit because they want you to believe they could or will be the f1 and/or feel for them when they're brokenhearted. We can't say it's all due to his video on the plane either because it appears the producers prodded the guys to be even more upset with Nick. Whatever they're doing it's working because it seems like many viewers don't like Nick nor want him to be the f1.

Whatever edit Nick is getting on tv, he's doing some really nice things irl. Such a good cause.  

[Cecilia]

Well the drama with the guys should stop after this next episode. Then we have 3 more episodes to feel sorry for him when he's dumped. I'm hoping the edit improves at that point. Once they've gotten their drama in. And the storyline is Mr. Confident doesn't get the girl.

[albean99]

Well the drama with the guys should stop after this next episode.  Then we have 3 more episodes to feel sorry for him when he's dumped.  I'm hoping the edit improves at that point.  Once they've gotten their drama in.  And the storyline is Mr. Confident doesn't get the girl.

I guess it's possible that they'll make it appear a foregone conclusion that she's going to pick Nick and then surprise she picks Josh but it's really not a surprise. There's spoilers and then there's the fact that people never want to believe the one with the negative edit will be the f1. Case in point Courtney and Vienna. I knew the spoilers in both cases but didn't want to accept it nor did the majority of viewers. So the surprise then was that they were the f1. Seems the opposite here.

Maybe neither Nick or Josh are the f1. I think it's very possible that someone else came back to propose. That hasn't happened for a long time so you never know.

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