Bachelorette 10 - Andi Dorfman and CH's Blog - *Spoilers* - Discussion

Ugh! The blogs drive us bonkers. Nonetheless, it would be interesting comparing Nick with Brooks and Frank (Ali's blogs) since those had lines about having faith in the process, being skeptical, etc... all signs that the Bachelorette got really frustrated with them... ha ha!

atem wrote:

notarose wrote:Mura,
     Yes, blog 5 should have a different tone.

I went back and watched her 1-1 with Nick.  There is some truth to what she wrote.  While they were at the dinner table talking, sitting what appeared to be far apart upper body wise, she was stroked his fingers - similar to what he did to her at the GD cocktail party I. Epi 4.  It was a very very quick shot before the camera moved away. I don't know how to SC but anyone who does can find it. It's sweet but all for not it seems.

And?  Wasn't Emily all over Arie until the end?

Yes. But if Nick is the chemistry edit why does she write:
"Just like in Santa Barbara, I felt like Nick and I continued to have this intense mental and physical connection. The kisses were amazing and he definitely knows how to make me feel like a woman, and I loved how passionate he was."

   confusion

notarose wrote:Mura,
     Yes, blog 5 should have a different tone.

I went back and watched her 1-1 with Nick.  There is some truth to what she wrote.  While they were at the dinner table talking, sitting what appeared to be far apart upper body wise, she stroked his fingers - similar to what he did to her at the GD cocktail party I. Epi 4.  It was a very very quick shot before the camera moved away. I don't know how to SC but anyone who does can find it. It's sweet but all for not it seems.

My point above is that I don't see that she described her kiss as the first romantic kiss (of the season) but rather that her first kiss with Nick was romantic and passionate.

docnash14 wrote:

notarose wrote:Mura,
     Yes, blog 5 should have a different tone.

I went back and watched her 1-1 with Nick.  There is some truth to what she wrote.  While they were at the dinner table talking, sitting what appeared to be far apart upper body wise, she stroked his fingers - similar to what he did to her at the GD cocktail party I. Epi 4.  It was a very very quick shot before the camera moved away. I don't know how to SC but anyone who does can find it. It's sweet but all for not it seems.

My point above is that I don't see that she described her kiss as the first romantic kiss (of the season) but rather that her first kiss with Nick was romantic and passionate.

I agree I don't think that she was referring to the first romantic kiss of the season, just her first kiss with Nick was romantic.

docnash14 wrote:

notarose wrote:Mura,
     Yes, blog 5 should have a different tone.

I went back and watched her 1-1 with Nick.  There is some truth to what she wrote.  While they were at the dinner table talking, sitting what appeared to be far apart upper body wise, she stroked his fingers - similar to what he did to her at the GD cocktail party I. Epi 4.  It was a very very quick shot before the camera moved away. I don't know how to SC but anyone who does can find it. It's sweet but all for not it seems.

My point above is that I don't see that she described her kiss as the first romantic kiss (of the season) but rather that her first kiss with Nick was romantic and passionate.

Yes, my syntax is incorrect.
Rephrasing.  She had already kissed others.  Her "first" kiss with Nick was described by her as romantic and passionate. These adjectives were not used to describe any of her prior first kisses. These adjectives have strong connotations.

The same can be inferred of this statement from her blog
"Just like in Santa Barbara, I felt like Nick and I continued to have this intense mental and physical connection. The kisses were amazing and he definitely knows how to make me feel like a woman, and I loved how passionate he was."

My point being that she could have been more pragmatic since the spoiler F1 is not Nick. She is a lawyer thus would have knowledge of the value of conciseness.

notarose wrote:Mura,
     Yes, blog 5 should have a different tone.

I went back and watched her 1-1 with Nick.  There is some truth to what she wrote.  While they were at the dinner table talking, sitting what appeared to be far apart upper body wise, she stroked his fingers - similar to what he did to her at the GD cocktail party I. Epi 4.  It was a very very quick shot before the camera moved away. I don't know how to SC but anyone who does can find it. It's sweet but all for not it seems.

yes i saw that moment too!..would be awesome if it capped.

for me, the kiss on GD cocktail party was hot, you can tell, bu they show us only a glimpse of it...

on a related note, Andi's writing of her first kiss with Nick on the hike date (which we DID NOT get to see), reminds me so much of JPab's  writing of his 1st kiss with Nikki, which also wasnt shown. Why bother to write it down and narate it with a strong comment of being romantic and passionate if Nick is not her F1?. (btw, CH mentioned in his blog that Nick-Andi first kiss was instead the on-screen one, on the clock-tower). Color me confused !

murasaki1393 wrote:

notarose wrote:Mura,
     Yes, blog 5 should have a different tone.

I went back and watched her 1-1 with Nick.  There is some truth to what she wrote.  While they were at the dinner table talking, sitting what appeared to be far apart upper body wise, she stroked his fingers - similar to what he did to her at the GD cocktail party I. Epi 4.  It was a very very quick shot before the camera moved away. I don't know how to SC but anyone who does can find it. It's sweet but all for not it seems.

yes i saw that moment too!..would be awesome if it capped.

for me, the kiss on GD cocktail party was hot, you can tell, bu they show us only a glimpse of it...

on a related note, Andi's writing of her first kiss with Nick on the hike date (which we DID NOT get to see), reminds me so much of JPab's  writing of his 1st kiss with Nikki, which also wasnt shown. Why bother to write it down and narate it with a strong comment of being romantic and passionate if Nick is not her F1?. (btw, CH mentioned in his blog that Nick-Andi first kiss was instead the on-screen one, on the clock-tower). Color me confused !

CH = liar liar pants on fire :atomic: 

notarose wrote:

docnash14 wrote:

notarose wrote:Mura,
     Yes, blog 5 should have a different tone.

I went back and watched her 1-1 with Nick.  There is some truth to what she wrote.  While they were at the dinner table talking, sitting what appeared to be far apart upper body wise, she stroked his fingers - similar to what he did to her at the GD cocktail party I. Epi 4.  It was a very very quick shot before the camera moved away. I don't know how to SC but anyone who does can find it. It's sweet but all for not it seems.

My point above is that I don't see that she described her kiss as the first romantic kiss (of the season) but rather that her first kiss with Nick was romantic and passionate.

Yes, my syntax is incorrect.
Rephrasing.  She had already kissed others.  Her "first" kiss with Nick was described by her as romantic and passionate. These adjectives were not used to describe any of her prior first kisses. These adjectives have strong connotations.

The same can be inferred of this statement from her blog
"Just like in Santa Barbara, I felt like Nick and I continued to have this intense mental and physical connection. The kisses were amazing and he definitely knows how to make me feel like a woman, and I loved how passionate he was."

My point being that she could have been more pragmatic since the spoiler F1 is not Nick.  She is a lawyer thus would have knowledge of the value of conciseness.

I agree that the words she used to describe Nick's kiss has strong connotations. However, as I indicated above, she also used the word "romantic" (as well as perfect) to describe her first kiss with Josh:
In her blog for the previous episode, she said this about Josh:
"I loved my first kiss with Josh. He was so nervous, and I found it so adorable! I like a man who just goes in for the kiss, and in front of the mansion, dancing, that was the perfect moment. So romantic!"

docnash14 wrote:

notarose wrote:

docnash14 wrote:

notarose wrote:Mura,
     Yes, blog 5 should have a different tone.

I went back and watched her 1-1 with Nick.  There is some truth to what she wrote.  While they were at the dinner table talking, sitting what appeared to be far apart upper body wise, she stroked his fingers - similar to what he did to her at the GD cocktail party I. Epi 4.  It was a very very quick shot before the camera moved away. I don't know how to SC but anyone who does can find it. It's sweet but all for not it seems.

My point above is that I don't see that she described her kiss as the first romantic kiss (of the season) but rather that her first kiss with Nick was romantic and passionate.

Yes, my syntax is incorrect.
Rephrasing.  She had already kissed others.  Her "first" kiss with Nick was described by her as romantic and passionate. These adjectives were not used to describe any of her prior first kisses. These adjectives have strong connotations.

The same can be inferred of this statement from her blog
"Just like in Santa Barbara, I felt like Nick and I continued to have this intense mental and physical connection. The kisses were amazing and he definitely knows how to make me feel like a woman, and I loved how passionate he was."

My point being that she could have been more pragmatic since the spoiler F1 is not Nick.  She is a lawyer thus would have knowledge of the value of conciseness.

I agree that the words she used to describe Nick's kiss has strong connotations.  However, as I indicated above, she also used the word "romantic" (as well as perfect) to describe her first kiss with Josh:
In her blog for the previous episode, she said this about Josh:
"I loved my first kiss with Josh. He was so nervous, and I found it so adorable! I like a man who just goes in for the kiss, and in front of the mansion, dancing, that was the perfect moment. So romantic!"

   My questioning of her blogs is not about Nick as F1 rather about why she would chose to describe Nick in very strong favourable terms when she could have easily used more modest descriptions given someone else is her choice.
Up thread I speculated why that might be so: to promote him as the next bachelor or to retroactively convince her readers that it "was real while it lasted".

Some further thoughts:
Chris
I feel like it is pretty much the status quo for the blog, just change a name and a couple words and you have this entry. I totally agree in terms of edit and the JBF’s Easter Eggs, its Chris all the way, even I am noticing things while watching. But I just don’t think it is him based on the blogs, I would be shocked.

Marcus
After the first two episodes I honestly thought that he was her F1 (at that point in time). But her blogs are very passionless and she rarely eloborates when talking about him. She seems to just state facts i.e. “He started to open up..we had our first kiss”. Although she does seem to write about him A LOT, and it isn’t all together I noticed that he was mentioned multiple times in one blog all over the place.

Nick
Common themes, he is the one she identifies with, maybe too similar (i.e. both are extremely analytical). She talks multiple times about his skepticism, meaning she is frustrated or this is his “challenge” that most F1’s have. I found how she talked about their mental and physical connection and this in quote in particular “The kisses were amazing and he definitely knows how to make me feel like a woman, and I loved how passionate he was. “ interesting. Just seems overly description for an F2.

Josh
This one is hard to really look at without a one-on-one date. I feel like her comment “He's obviously handsome and has a great smile, but there was something there I needed to figure out.” Might be telling and that “something” she needed to figure out is why she picks him. She also refers to his kisses as being romantic and “perfect moment”

At this point I really don’t think Chris or Marcus are F1. I can’t really say between Nick and Josh until I see the blog next week, and what she says about Josh. I feel like episode 5 will be very telling, as Nick will be in the drama and Josh will probably have his official coming out.

good observations sbolduc!!..the ep.5. will be very telling, ITA.

i wanted to put what i think as note-worthy here :

- Andi's writing of her first kiss with Nick on the hike date (which we DID NOT get to see), reminds me so much of JPab's  writing of his 1st kiss with Nikki, which also wasnt shown. Why bother to write it down and narate it with a strong connotations of being romantic and passionate if Nick is not her F1?. Color me confused !

- Andi referencing the flowers from Nick as their dating life back in Chicago. i found this interesting to say the least....will she move to Chicago? J/K..again, why bother mentioning the Chi-town?

- and yes, ITA,her words : how she loved him treated her like a woman, it is very spesific to Nick (remains to be seen for the other guys).

murasaki1393 wrote:good observations sbolduc!!..the ep.5. will be very telling, ITA.

i wanted to put what i think as note-worthy here :

- Andi's writing of her first kiss with Nick on the hike date (which we DID NOT get to see), reminds me so much of JPab's  writing of his 1st kiss with Nikki, which also wasnt shown. Why bother to write it down and narate it with a strong connotations of being romantic and passionate if Nick is not her F1?. Color me confused !

- Andi referencing the flowers from Nick as their dating life back in Chicago. i found this interesting to say the least....will she move to Chicago? J/K..again, why bother mentioning the Chi-town?

- and yes, ITA,her words : how she loved him treated her like a woman, it is very spesific to Nick (remains to be seen for the other guys).

lets be honest murasaki has a little crush on our man Nick haha... I like your sleuthing and ill be interested to see how the next few weeks play out. To me its only Nick and Josh in the running. The rest i just don't see...