Episode 9 - 7/25 Fantasy dates - Discussion - Spoilers

CarrieAlexander wrote:I wonder why they gave JP the honeymoon suit. Ohhh babyyyy

Pattycake92 wrote:We don't know what JP got. Just about sure that Ben stayed with Ash at Civa Vila.

Pattycake92 wrote:We don't know what JP got. Just about sure that Ben stayed with Ash at Civa Vila.

Pattycake92 wrote: I think all of these are Civa Vila.

JBF wrote:

BlondieGal wrote:Fleiss's Twitter ~
Ashley is fine... Still on her journey toward love. 9:29 AM May 1st via Twitter for iPhone
Some freaky stuff has happened to Ashley H... She's hanging in there, tho... 12:31 AM May 1st via Twitter for iPhone
Just shot the finale... OMG!!!! Wed May 11 20:18:09 2011 via Twitter for iPhone

Do remember this post.

I also initially thought Ryan's arrival was closer to FRC. Reality Steve claimed it was during Fantasy Suite time and many of us found that questionable. Ryan comes before Fantasy Date #2... or even earlier. If Ben gets the first Fantasy Suite date, his arrival could cause trouble since the editors made a point showing the conflict between him and Ryan. Also, Jordan has a questionable relationship with Ryan as well, but also is a bit confident that Ryan is not her "type". Why did they include that line of his from episode #4? To show us that he is less bothered by Ryan. He did say he was ready to jump out of a window if Ryan got the group rose on his date, but I personally think he was joking with Lucas.

Nonetheless, Ryan's return can "cast a cloud" over BOTH dates with Ben and Jordan. Maybe she discusses it with Jordan and that is where the quote “She was being selfless and honest” fits in. He did tell her not to be afraid to tell him anything and that he wouldn't judge her.

If Constantine gets the final Fantasy Date and they do the swimming, then his departure occurs either before the end of it or afterward, but before the rose ceremony... and maybe they cancel the ceremony when he visits her to drop out. So far, we have no evidence suggesting there is a 3 to 2 rose ceremony.

Just guessing here... we will have to see how it plays out.

The more I study this season, the more I think the "conflict" is all about Ashley's insecurities, not the guys'. Yes, Jordan may consider her potentialy having stronger feelings for Ben or Ryan, but he also believes they are "on the right track". The quote "She’s gotta know that I’m flustered and that I’m upset. It makes it a little more difficult for me knowing that she’s probably not in love with me." has less to do with The Competition and more to do with her troubles communicating her feelings. Earlier she stated (ep #3) "I’m the type of person that, when I fall for someone, I fall hard. I’m scared that there’s not enough time to heal from that and then fall in love again." In the last rose ceremony in Hong Kong, she was again worried about making everybody happy (and the way they keep stuffing shots of JP in our faces every time "everybody" is mentioned suggests she is "talking around" the obvious: there is just one guy she's focused on).

pavalygurl wrote:I took a look at the Namale site and Ash is staying in the Dream House...name of the house is Tatadra which we see when she opens the door and it appears to be the most luxurious

Next in luxury appear to be the Villas...and I do agree the Civa matches the scs of Ben and Ash. There are several Villas: Duavata, Rosi and Bula House. I would think JP stayed in one of these, but not too close to Civa LOL I could not pull up any pics from the site for these villas.

The Bures are next in line...so I don't think anyone stayed in the honeymoon bure...it does not appear as "luxurious" from the description. Interesting though they have an exterior pic of the Ocean Tropical Bure and the Garden Bure and both have decks with railings similar to what we see for Ryan's sc?????