Re: Episode 9 - 7/25 Fantasy dates - Discussion - Spoilers

by cupcakes Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:58 pm

LuvnIt wrote:
mnmhughes wrote:
ironcat wrote:I'm starting to reconsider the mud bath pics. I think it's Dino and not JP. Those shorts he's wearing are awful, and I believe JP wouldn't be caught dead in them (unless he borrowed them because they will probably get ruined from the mud). That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

I'm surprised JP would wear those shorts too. However, we already have a pic of Dino wearing orange shorts on his fantasy date. So doesn't it have to be JP?

Since Dino has waterfall date , Ben has Scuba Date and evidently JP gets the Seaplane for Fantasy date i think the Mud Bath is LCD and Dino will be gone by that time and IMO i belief it is JP doing mud bath.

The only thing that has me confused is that RS said that JP and Ash kayak during their LCD and she is in a turquoise bikini. This description doesn't match the mud cap.

by mnmhughes Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:00 pm

cupcakes wrote:
LuvnIt wrote:
mnmhughes wrote:
ironcat wrote:I'm starting to reconsider the mud bath pics. I think it's Dino and not JP. Those shorts he's wearing are awful, and I believe JP wouldn't be caught dead in them (unless he borrowed them because they will probably get ruined from the mud). That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

I'm surprised JP would wear those shorts too. However, we already have a pic of Dino wearing orange shorts on his fantasy date. So doesn't it have to be JP?

Since Dino has waterfall date , Ben has Scuba Date and evidently JP gets the Seaplane for Fantasy date i think the Mud Bath is LCD and Dino will be gone by that time and IMO i belief it is JP doing mud bath.

The only thing that has me confused is that RS said that JP and Ash kayak during their LCD and she is in a turquoise bikini. This description doesn't match the mud cap.

Could the mud bath be the FD? They take a sea plane somewhere and have the mud bath?

by noobsleuth Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:04 pm

mnmhughes wrote:
cupcakes wrote:
LuvnIt wrote:
mnmhughes wrote:
ironcat wrote:I'm starting to reconsider the mud bath pics. I think it's Dino and not JP. Those shorts he's wearing are awful, and I believe JP wouldn't be caught dead in them (unless he borrowed them because they will probably get ruined from the mud). That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

I'm surprised JP would wear those shorts too. However, we already have a pic of Dino wearing orange shorts on his fantasy date. So doesn't it have to be JP?

Since Dino has waterfall date , Ben has Scuba Date and evidently JP gets the Seaplane for Fantasy date i think the Mud Bath is LCD and Dino will be gone by that time and IMO i belief it is JP doing mud bath.

The only thing that has me confused is that RS said that JP and Ash kayak during their LCD and she is in a turquoise bikini. This description doesn't match the mud cap.

Could the mud bath be the FD? They take a sea plane somewhere and have the mud bath?

We have the SC of them walking along the beach (from far away). We have Ash in the white tank top which believe to be their FD. And then we have her in a sheer brownish top and him in a yellow shirt. And then of course the mud bath. So how do we get at least 4 wardrobe changes on two dates not even counting dinner apparel? Is it possible the brownish shirt and yellow shirt is the MTP?

by cupcakes Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:06 pm

mnmhughes wrote:
cupcakes wrote:
LuvnIt wrote:
mnmhughes wrote:
ironcat wrote:I'm starting to reconsider the mud bath pics. I think it's Dino and not JP. Those shorts he's wearing are awful, and I believe JP wouldn't be caught dead in them (unless he borrowed them because they will probably get ruined from the mud). That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

I'm surprised JP would wear those shorts too. However, we already have a pic of Dino wearing orange shorts on his fantasy date. So doesn't it have to be JP?

Since Dino has waterfall date , Ben has Scuba Date and evidently JP gets the Seaplane for Fantasy date i think the Mud Bath is LCD and Dino will be gone by that time and IMO i belief it is JP doing mud bath.

The only thing that has me confused is that RS said that JP and Ash kayak during their LCD and she is in a turquoise bikini. This description doesn't match the mud cap.

Could the mud bath be the FD? They take a sea plane somewhere and have the mud bath?

Could happen. But would she wear the same/similar bikini on two different FDs?

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by JBF Fri Jul 08, 2011 10:34 pm

So we are now certain that Jordan gets the second date, based on the initial show description?

This brings us back to the tweets from Fleiss:

May 1 - Some freaky stuff has happened to Ashley H. She's hanging in there, tho.
May 1 - Ashley is fine...Still on her journey toward love.

Guess we can now put Ryan on the morning of May 1st to upset the applecart temporarily... then things get back to normal quickly.

by JBF Fri Jul 08, 2011 10:51 pm

Kashathediva wrote:That is exactly what I am saying.

I am not good with paint and edit, but I have tried to draw an arrow on the sc where JP is. He has his sunglasses raised to sit on his head vs wearing them. You can see his profile

Sorry for responding to my own post, but it's easier than me recopying all the scs I am concerned with.
Here is a photo of JP with his sunglasses on.

In the sc above he is wearing the on his head, like right above his forehead and you can make out his eyes(or I can! LOL )

... just doing some comparison shots here...

This is when she discusses about William's Las Vegas near-marriage in episode #2. This is the FIRST Fiji shot that they may have added at the last minute to that show... or at least within a week or two before broadcast, I'm speculating.

"OMG... I did not think William would go through with this. What do we do now? This could be a legally binding marriage."
She was thinking about marriage at this time.

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by Guest Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:55 am

JBF wrote:So we are now certain that Jordan gets the second date, based on the initial show description?

This brings us back to the tweets from Fleiss:

May 1 - Some freaky stuff has happened to Ashley H. She's hanging in there, tho.
May 1 - Ashley is fine...Still on her journey toward love.

Guess we can now put Ryan on the morning of May 1st to upset the applecart temporarily... then things get back to normal quickly.

Maybe, but it could also be something that happens with Constantine since May 1st was one of the FDs.

by JBF Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:08 am

JBanana wrote:
JBF wrote:So we are now certain that Jordan gets the second date, based on the initial show description?

This brings us back to the tweets from Fleiss:

May 1 - Some freaky stuff has happened to Ashley H. She's hanging in there, tho.
May 1 - Ashley is fine...Still on her journey toward love.

Guess we can now put Ryan on the morning of May 1st to upset the applecart temporarily... then things get back to normal quickly.

Maybe, but it could also be something that happens with Constantine since May 1st was one of the FDs.

That sounds logical... I could see it panning that way.

Isn't May 1 is the second date? Although what happened the previous day could filter in that morning. Who gets the first date? Ben or Constantine? I have the feeling Constantine leaves after the dates, but before the RC. Looks like they are having fun swimming together. Maybe he turns down the fantasy suite.

Guess one major puzzle piece is her orange outfit. Initially, I thought that was the same one she wore with Ryan but it was shown on the other thread that it is actually red. So the surprised meeting at the door shot may not have to do with Ryan. She could be meeting her parents in that scene. The on-the-bed contemplating could happen before the knock on her door, but the sneaky editors make it seem like something else altogether.

by Guest Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:55 am

JBF, this was a post in a different thread (the F1, F2, F3, F4 speculation thread) that had the list of dates:

Gina wrote:
BlondieGal wrote:Fleiss's Twitter ~

Ashley is fine... Still on her journey toward love. 9:29 AM May 1st via Twitter for iPhone

Some freaky stuff has happened to Ashley H... She's hanging in there, tho... 12:31 AM May 1st via Twitter for iPhone

Just shot the finale... OMG!!!! Wed May 11 20:18:09 2011 via Twitter for iPhone

Calendar for Matt Grant's season (back then they had an extra day between fantasy dates. Do they still do that?) ~ Ashley's dates to compare:

Feb 16, Sat RC No 6: 4/3 cut
Feb 17, Sun Travel
Feb 18, Mon Fantasy Date
Feb 19, Tues Fantasy Date ~ BINGO May 1st ~ This must be due to Ryan's return
Feb 20, Wed Fantasy Date ~ May 2nd
Feb 21, Thur Fantasy Date ~ May 3rd
Feb 22, Fri Fantasy Date ~ May 4th
Feb 23, Sat Fantasy Date ~ May 5th
Feb 24, Sun RC No 7 3/2 cut ~ May 6th
Feb 25, Mon Travel ~ this day is not needed, is it?
Feb 26, Tues Meet the Bach Family ~ May 7th
Feb 27, Wed Extra Day ~ May 8th (probably 2nd day of MTF)
Feb 28, Thur Last Chance Date ~ May 9th
Feb 29, Fri Last Chance Date ~ May 10th
March 1, Sat FRC ~ May 11th
Thanks so much for compiling this list. I'm staying with my original thought about the May 1st "freaky stuff" tweet, and from the bolded, it would be after a Fantasy date. I think it's Constantine and he asks to leave during or right after the fantasy date or at the RC that night. jmo I think Ryan is later before the FRC. I can't wait to see what happens.

Season 7, Episode 9
Episode Synopsis: Ashley and her final three suitors visit Fiji for daytime frolicking and, perhaps, overnight canoodling. Adventures include sailing and snorkeling, a seaplane ride and cliff jumping into a waterfall. Ashley also receives a surprise visitor before one of the three guys goes home; the other two vie for the final rose.

I guess the surprise visitor could be Ryan, or Constantine, or someone else entirely? For some reason I also thought Ryan's visit was later, though. But I have no idea where I got that idea.

by Nativenewyorker Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:59 am

ironcat wrote:I'm starting to reconsider the mud bath pics. I think it's Dino and not JP. Those shorts he's wearing are awful, and I believe JP wouldn't be caught dead in them (unless he borrowed them because they will probably get ruined from the mud). That's my story and I'm stics king to it.

I think you may be on to something. I have been wondering if that was really JP. Now we do have screencaps that show Ashley in that same purple bikini being carried by Dino piggyback in the water.

by Pattycake92 Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:04 am

Nativenewyorker wrote:
ironcat wrote:I'm starting to reconsider the mud bath pics. I think it's Dino and not JP. Those shorts he's wearing are awful, and I believe JP wouldn't be caught dead in them (unless he borrowed them because they will probably get ruined from the mud). That's my story and I'm stics king to it.

I think you may be on to something. I have been wondering if that was really JP. Now we do have screencaps that show Ashley in that same purple bikini being carried by Dino piggyback in the water.

Can't be Dino cause he's wearing orange shorts.

by Love_Me Sat Jul 09, 2011 5:04 am

Sorry, if this was determined.

What is the order the guys go on these FD dates?

Does it go like this:

1st - Dino
2nd- JP
3rd - Ben

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