Bachelorette 10 Filming Schedule - *Spoilers & Sleuthing* - Discussion

I think the scs usually tell things as they are. So regardless of spoilers and the reliability of such--the scs will have a lot to say.

Aunties_Love wrote:

SLA44 wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

sophienette wrote:Well... we dont know where RS sys th GD was, but I think it still ponts to JJ having a 1-1 date!

I have questions as to how much weight to put on what RS says.  There are things that don't add up.

The pic of JJ
Group date

How Josh got 2 individiual dates when Cleop was certain he only had 1

And how he hasn't wanted to give us the F3 and so on.

I seriously wonder if his sources are right this time around or are we in for another fleissmeister deception campaign here.

I was wondering the same thing.  It's and  point of view IMO.

I find a hard way to blindly trust RS again.  We know the deceptions that Fleiss played on us through Des's season.  We do have the pic of JJ that just doesn't match what RS is saying.  Haven't we said in the past that the pics are more reliable than RS or other sources.  If they just don't match what is being said, then something don't make sense

IMO only if you, and I mean anyone, take RS's word as gospel. There's no reason why anyone should be Fleissed if they continue to sleuth for their own enjoyment. I already read posts where there are discrepancies. It's great to discuss the discrepancies, but not ok to just settle for his spoilers, unless you prefer to. The difference is you believe the spoilers, or you take part in sleuthing. If anyone doesn't want to take part in sleuthing, then by all means enjoy the work of the sleuthers!

If something doesn't match, why would we still believe him without checking it out ourselves.

These are just my opinions and I how feel about being Flessed or not.

GuardianAngel wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

SLA44 wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

sophienette wrote:Well... we dont know where RS sys th GD was, but I think it still ponts to JJ having a 1-1 date!

I have questions as to how much weight to put on what RS says.  There are things that don't add up.

The pic of JJ
Group date

How Josh got 2 individiual dates when Cleop was certain he only had 1

And how he hasn't wanted to give us the F3 and so on.

I seriously wonder if his sources are right this time around or are we in for another fleissmeister deception campaign here.

I was wondering the same thing.  It's and  point of view IMO.

I find a hard way to blindly trust RS again.  We know the deceptions that Fleiss played on us through Des's season.  We do have the pic of JJ that just doesn't match what RS is saying.  Haven't we said in the past that the pics are more reliable than RS or other sources.  If they just don't match what is being said, then something don't make sense

IMO only if you, and I mean anyone, take RS's word as gospel. There's no reason why anyone should be Fleissed if they continue to sleuth for their own enjoyment. I already read posts where there are discrepancies. It's great to discuss the discrepancies, but not ok to just settle for his spoilers, unless you prefer to. The difference is you believe the spoilers, or you take part in sleuthing. If anyone doesn't want to take part in sleuthing, then by all means enjoy the work of the sleuthers!

If something doesn't match, why would we still believe him without checking it out ourselves.

These are just my opinions and I how feel about being Flessed or not.

Well, already the stuff about JJ and the pic really doesn't add up. Then with the mixups he's(RS)had. I just don't put my faith in him when other signs are pointing to other results.

Aunties_Love wrote:

SLA44 wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

sophienette wrote:Well... we dont know where RS sys th GD was, but I think it still ponts to JJ having a 1-1 date!

I have questions as to how much weight to put on what RS says.  There are things that don't add up.

The pic of JJ
Group date

How Josh got 2 individiual dates when Cleop was certain he only had 1

And how he hasn't wanted to give us the F3 and so on.

I seriously wonder if his sources are right this time around or are we in for another fleissmeister deception campaign here.

I was wondering the same thing.  It's an  point of view IMO.

I find a hard way to blindly trust RS again.  We know the deceptions that Fleiss played on us through Des's season.  We do have the pic of JJ that just doesn't match what RS is saying.  Haven't we said in the past that the pics are more reliable than RS or other sources.  If they just don't match what is being said, then something don't make sense

IA and I don't trust TPTB at all either because they will do everything under their power to confuse the viewers and they sure could have planted some incorrect information to RS just like happened in Des' season where it was made to look like it was Brooks all along to line up with the spoiler that was out. I never could see it between Des and Brooks and had a real hard time with that spoiler being correct - the chemistry and connection just was not there like it was with Chris. That's why I am just going to watch this season and see what happens.

SLA44 wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

SLA44 wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

sophienette wrote:Well... we dont know where RS sys th GD was, but I think it still ponts to JJ having a 1-1 date!

I have questions as to how much weight to put on what RS says.  There are things that don't add up.

The pic of JJ
Group date

How Josh got 2 individiual dates when Cleop was certain he only had 1

And how he hasn't wanted to give us the F3 and so on.

I seriously wonder if his sources are right this time around or are we in for another fleissmeister deception campaign here.

I was wondering the same thing.  It's an  point of view IMO.

I find a hard way to blindly trust RS again.  We know the deceptions that Fleiss played on us through Des's season.  We do have the pic of JJ that just doesn't match what RS is saying.  Haven't we said in the past that the pics are more reliable than RS or other sources.  If they just don't match what is being said, then something don't make sense

IA and I don't trust TPTB at all either because they will do everything under their power to confuse the viewers and they sure could have planted some incorrect information to RS just like happened in Des' season where it was made to look like it was Brooks all along to line up with the spoiler that was out.  I never could see it between Des and Brooks and had a real hard time with that spoiler being correct - the chemistry and connection just was not there like it was with Chris.  That's why I am just going to watch this season and see what happens.  

Yea, I never saw it with Des and Brooks neither. Then in the beginning of the season, the board was nuts with Brooks love, to the point that if others contested the idea that Brooks being F1 brought out some ugliness. This season seems to be going the same way with how "perfect" Josh is on paper, can't help but think there will be a lot of heartbroken people here if Josh isn't F1.

Everytime RS is incorrect about anything he claims he doesn't care because all he really cares about is spoiling the final result.  However, his track record with that hasn't been that great either over the last few years.

Best to use our own eyes.  I'm not a great sleuther, but I love all the work you great ones do- and I'm happy to speculate based on that.  I'll be traveling a lot while this season including the very end, but I hope I get invested before I leave the country so that I can't wait to watch the finale when I get home.

jcrbil wrote:Everytime RS is incorrect about anything he claims he doesn't care because all he really cares about is spoiling the final result.  However, his track record with that hasn't been that great either over the last few years.

Best to use our own eyes.  I'm not a great sleuthed, but I love all the work you great ones do- and I'm happy to speculate based on that.  I'll be traveling a lot while this season including the very end, but I hope I get invested before I leave the country so that I can't wait to watch the finale when I get home.

That's a great post. Every set of eyes and every speculative post helps!

jcrbil wrote:^^ I suppose the distinction is a fine one, but in Venice there are many palazzos (palaces).  When I was there a number of years ago, no castles (the castles in Italy, and most places, are older than most palaces which blend in more with the city) that I remember.  And a quick review of the top 40 sight in Venice on Tripadvisor yielded 0 castles, but a number of palaces.  A castle generally will have walls/ramparts and often be a number of buildings inside the wall.  I

But that's why I said RS (and whoever he got his info from) may not distinguish between a  palace and a castle.

Perhaps I haven't gone back far enough in this thread but am chiming in as, like jcrbil, I've been in Venice several times.  As she said, no castles however Doges Palace is fortrified.  I know Lido, Burano & Murano also have no castles.
Verona, where I think someone said they are also going, has a castle along the riverbank which would be easy to film in given it's interior.  There is also at least one wee castle between the two.

sanlee088 wrote:Great job as always with the location Mr Write and Sophie!

IA, you guys never cease to amaze me!

Something is off with RS's saying... I'm gonna go with Chris having a sqt in Venice after getting the GDR. I just can't pathom why Cody get the Verona date to only being sent home right after? Such a wasted date in romantic place !!  Why not giving it to Chris, and have a dramatic leave of Cody at a point before RC? . I suspect it's bc Eric had pulled that one act off in CT..

Emily's season there were 2 guys (Wolf and Travis?) who she clearly wasn't interest in who respectively got to the last 2 stops. Emily couldn't let Wolf go on their 1 on 1 which was that last week because there are no roses on those dates. So it is not unprecedented for late dates to go to guys (or girls) with no shot. But they did hang on long enough to have the full adventure!

Most leads will say that the weeks before HTDs are used to find out who they should eliminate from consideration while the dates afterwards allow for real connections. So, either Andi was certain about Chris or others needed to be eliminated first. After all, they need to go to HTDs with 4.

true..jrc..
do you/does anyone think by chance, RS got it wrong, and Chris instead of Cody got that Verona date (As his 1-1 date..and the rose is from his 1-1, not from the GD?). Has there been any contestant strung along till ep.6/7, not getting any date at all and then booted off?

otherwise, i think Chris must have had sqt ala Andi on that episode. (due to receiving the GDR). I just think ep.2. is so early for him not having any kind of alone time with Andi.

i cant recall anyone among F4  who get first 1on1 on ep.2. date not having a second date prior to HTD...Courtney, Arie, Des, and Brooks all got the second dates   . Maybe they dont go with 'usual norm' this season?