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Post by atem Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:57 am

I do know that the limo ride was from the Verandah to him place in St James Club, because when he got in you could see the gazebo in the background.


Anything I post means it's Just My Opinion.  Don't feel like posting it every time I post. So, I thought I'd get that out of the way.

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Post by isittrue Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:58 am

I don't know you guys, I am getting that sinking feeling. First, I just keep thinking -about all the Chris S. stuff pointed out in the Chris the thread and the filming in Seattle which some speculated as bachelor-related and I am now start to think it is for AFTFR and a plea to get Des to move to Seattle. Then I think it could be Drew too - move to Cali is suspect and no need for airport sightings if it is him. I want to trust the spoilers and the sources but I am thinking the sources were deliberately given misinformation as well. I think the producers really wanted to shock everyone with the ending - Des rejects Brooks and takes one of the other two men - certainly would be out of left field and shocking and does not make sense. Des and Brooks just are not adding up.

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Post by atem Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:01 pm

The out of left field thing already happened.  Why do you think they label it PART I of the Finale?  If Desiree rejecting Brooks is 'out of left field', then why would the other two guys not like it?

It's a lie Chris H is saying that Desiree could just end it at Madeira, especially when Brooks hadn't even said the L-word yet.
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Post by Guest Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:04 pm

Sarah_XV wrote:^^ Chris fans think the back adjustment may have given her clarity. I'm not convinced.

I don't think that. It's silly IMO. The only thing is that the questions Brooks family asked him could be pivotal in the other direction as well, though not as likely.

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Post by Cecilia Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:04 pm

riddlexo3 wrote:
Cecilia wrote:
sfrank wrote:
Cecilia wrote:Thu 5/16 - Brooks home in SLC [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  

He is SO hot in that picture.

That timeline makes it seem like she hasn't seem him all July though.  If they haven't seen each other every other weekend I don't know how their relationship is going strong.  After his mistake, they need time together to build on that.  And this was always his problem with the relationship.

I think they saw each other 4th of July weekend but you are right not a lot of weekends. But do you see my point that she isn't really spending time with anyone else either?

Yes - I see your point.  But I am totally convinced that she chose Brooks.  What I'm worried about is their future if they weren't spending a lot of time together.  But I guess we will all see them together at ATFR.  Which I am really looking forward to.  I can't wait to see Brooks in real time explain himself.  Unfortunately, there is so much to cram into that one hour with Chris, Drew and the couple that maybe we won't get much.  I can't wait for agentcurls to give us the inside scoop of what we won't see.

TOMORROW LADIES!!!!


How are you so convinced? I'm really debating skipping the premiere so  i'm not disappointed when she ends up with chris.

Are you serious? You must watch if you are a Bres fan! It will be 3 amazing hours. I don't think I have ever been more excited for a finale. And I get the worry of disappointment. I hoped Jillian would accept Reid, even though RS said Ed was F1. I also wanted Ali to pick Chris.

As for why I am convinced: combination of spoilers, the way he acted after she told him ILU and then didn't want to leave her/sobbing, said he was doubting himself, no exit interview in limo, the way she has described her F1, plus it is inplausible that she would be engaged/happy with someone else days after she says "I love you. You are the only one I can say that to" the way they promoted the 2 part season finale....I think I could go on and on.

What I don't know is how it plays out. I doubt the sincerity of a proposal at this point from him and I worry about how their relationship has fared over the months where they can only see each other in secret. So these are my questions.
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Post by Guest Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:04 pm

I'm choosing to believe 100% it's Brooks. But I also am prepared that it might not be. I honestly can't imagine how it will transpire with all of the guys but hope it's full of genuine emotion and interaction, for good or bad.

I've loved this season so much and will miss watching Desiree's and Brooks stories whether they end together or separately. I thank them for an entertaining summer and am glad to see them looking happy IRL. Bring on Monday, come what may.

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Post by atem Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:06 pm

grace8136 wrote:
Sarah_XV wrote:^^ Chris fans think the back adjustment may have given her clarity. I'm not convinced.

I don't think that. It's silly IMO. The only thing is that the questions Brooks family asked him could be pivotal in the other direction as well, though not as likely.

I agree. A back adjustment means something, but a caption of Desiree saying she wants him to meet her family, her saying in her blog she was 100% in love after the HTD and her telling Brooks to his face she loved him don't mean anything.
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Post by Piper61 Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:08 pm

riddlexo3 wrote:
Cecilia wrote:
sfrank wrote:
Cecilia wrote:Thu 5/16 - Brooks home in SLC [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  

He is SO hot in that picture.

That timeline makes it seem like she hasn't seem him all July though.  If they haven't seen each other every other weekend I don't know how their relationship is going strong.  After his mistake, they need time together to build on that.  And this was always his problem with the relationship.

I think they saw each other 4th of July weekend but you are right not a lot of weekends. But do you see my point that she isn't really spending time with anyone else either?

Yes - I see your point.  But I am totally convinced that she chose Brooks.  What I'm worried about is their future if they weren't spending a lot of time together.  But I guess we will all see them together at ATFR.  Which I am really looking forward to.  I can't wait to see Brooks in real time explain himself.  Unfortunately, there is so much to cram into that one hour with Chris, Drew and the couple that maybe we won't get much.  I can't wait for agentcurls to give us the inside scoop of what we won't see.

TOMORROW LADIES!!!!


How are you so convinced? I'm really debating skipping the premiere so  i'm not disappointed when she ends up with chris.
DVR it, and then watch the forum for the conclusion so that when it is Brooks, you'll be able to watch it knowing the outcome and not stressing over the angst sure to come before getting there. Win, win. :Smiley: 
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Post by Guest Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:08 pm

Cecilia wrote:
riddlexo3 wrote:
Cecilia wrote:
sfrank wrote:
Cecilia wrote:Thu 5/16 - Brooks home in SLC [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  

He is SO hot in that picture.

That timeline makes it seem like she hasn't seem him all July though.  If they haven't seen each other every other weekend I don't know how their relationship is going strong.  After his mistake, they need time together to build on that.  And this was always his problem with the relationship.

I think they saw each other 4th of July weekend but you are right not a lot of weekends. But do you see my point that she isn't really spending time with anyone else either?

Yes - I see your point.  But I am totally convinced that she chose Brooks.  What I'm worried about is their future if they weren't spending a lot of time together.  But I guess we will all see them together at ATFR.  Which I am really looking forward to.  I can't wait to see Brooks in real time explain himself.  Unfortunately, there is so much to cram into that one hour with Chris, Drew and the couple that maybe we won't get much.  I can't wait for agentcurls to give us the inside scoop of what we won't see.

TOMORROW LADIES!!!!


How are you so convinced? I'm really debating skipping the premiere so  i'm not disappointed when she ends up with chris.

Are you serious?  You must watch if you are a Bres fan! It will be 3 amazing hours.  I don't think I have ever been more excited for a finale.  And I get the worry of disappointment.  I hoped Jillian would accept Reid, even though RS said Ed was F1.  I also wanted Ali to pick Chris.

As for why I am convinced:  combination of spoilers, the way he acted after she told him ILU and then didn't want to leave her/sobbing, said he was doubting himself, no exit interview in limo, the way she has described her F1, plus it is inplausible that she would be engaged/happy with someone else days after she says "I love you.  You are the only one I can say that to" the way they promoted the 2 part season finale....I think I could go on and on.

What I don't know is how it plays out.  I doubt the sincerity of a proposal at this point from him and I worry about how their relationship has fared over the months where they can only see each other in secret.  So these are my questions.

I think you're correct. All the evidences that Brooks is F1 are just as plentiful, plus he has all the spoilers in one unanimous voice. I've been leaning towards Brooks being F1 today despite all the Chris F1 "evidences." It's my gut feeling.


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Post by Bhaka Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:09 pm

isittrue wrote:I don't know you guys, I am getting that sinking feeling.  First, I just keep thinking -about all the Chris S. stuff pointed out in the Chris the thread and the filming in Seattle which some speculated as bachelor-related and I am now start to think it is for AFTFR and a plea to get Des to move to Seattle.  Then I think it could be Drew too - move to Cali is suspect and no need for airport sightings if it is him.  I want  to trust the spoilers and the sources but I am thinking the sources were deliberately given misinformation as well.  I think the producers really wanted to shock everyone with the ending - Des rejects Brooks and takes one of the other  two men - certainly would be out of left field and shocking and does not make sense.   Des and Brooks just are not adding up.  

For me, I only get a "sinking feeling" about Des and Brooks when I'm trying to protect myself from disappointment. If I didn't have to worry about that, then Des and Brooks would make more sense than anything else. Des told us in the beginning she would follow her heart, and then she made it very clear what her heart was telling her. I don't have to stretch my imagination very far to see Brooks as F1. I have to work a lot harder to imagine Des making a change of heart.
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Post by nutty1 Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:14 pm

I am 100% confident…..not a worry in my bones!


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Post by latergator Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:14 pm

sfrank wrote:I know Chris fans believe that that Chris twitter pic is from a "safehouse" and that that have been "no airport" sightings of Brooks but I started making this a few weeks ago just to see who was spotted where, when, and how often. I gotta tell you I can't find the time in Des' schedule to meet with Chris. I can see where she may have been meeting Brooks in May, June, and early July.

I know a lot of "hey" has been made over 7/20 & 7/21 but Des tweets motivational quotes ALL THE TIME  check this timeline or her twitter one...it seems more coincidental and I'm not 100% convinced it is a safehouse pic. Given the volume of weekends she has spent with her friends I don't see when these "safehouse" visits are happening for her and Chris. I will say that she and Brooks seem to be doing fair job of keeping themselves busy...

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thank you for this sfrank... I know all the effort it took for you to gather this information and also include the pics as reference. I know I will be studying it this evening
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