Brooks-Forester-Bachelorette-9-Contestant-Spoilers-Discussion

I think he liked her more than he realized. Either he comes back because of that or out of guilt, but I can't see Brooks, who was strong enough to leave at that point, coming back out of guilt. And I can't see him being a good actor if he does come back out of guilt.

Agree Adele and kebarrera. One more thing, right before he left, Brooks asked Des what he should do, if he should leave. He wanted Des to tell him to stay but she couldn't. I think she was so hurt by some of the things he said, and rightly so, that she was completely shut down and disengaged at that point.

Beeleever wrote:Agree Adele and kebarrera. One more thing, right before he left, Brooks asked Des what he should do, if he should leave. He wanted Des to tell him to stay but she couldn't. I think she was so hurt by some of the things he said, and rightly so, that she was completely shut down and disengaged at that point.

Of course it wasn't easy to leave...and plus he didn't want to look like the bad guy...and he genuinely felt bad...I mean she's all sobbing there...he cares about her so that is why he's acting that way....but doesn't mean he loves her.

also I just think these sound like excuses and if there is even an ounce of truth to these excuses it's all the beginning of a relationship that is filled with games...it's not healthy already. Why would someone let someone be so sad and upset like that...if he really loved her he'd put an end to her misery immediately...but he couldn't cuz he doesn't love her and couldn't do anything about it.

BarbB222 wrote:

Beeleever wrote:

treschicas wrote:

Beeleever wrote:

I've produced and edited film for reality TV and have intimate knowledge of what goes on "behind the scenes". But you don't have to believe me, treschicas. I'm okay with that. I respect everyone's right to have a difference in opinion. Have a good night!  

I know this kind of stuff goes on but the producers usually have a certain motive for doing something. I don't see a motive here for this particular thing you claimed they could have done.

It is standard behavior for the final contestants every single season. The motive is to manipulate the contestants into saying and doing things for the sole purpose of increased viewership. Their #1 goal is to create drama and make a great show that will pull in high ratings.

Yes, I do think they tried manipulating Cat. But Cat is a very strong person and wouldn't allow herself to be manipulated. She wasn't even phased by Sean dating other girls. Cat just hung in there and trusted Sean instead of what she was being told.

Bee, your insights are informative and educational . Thank you. So you think once Brooks heard Des loved only him he realized he was being misinformed? How much do you think the F3 contract came into play for him ? Also, if the lead is a man, how are those contracts translated into the F3 being girls? Mainly because they aren't going to propose the male lead is. If the F3 contract are only for when there's a female lead then it's kinda unfair right? Not that the guys can help it since they are usually the proposers. But still one sided.
Also, what might an F3 contract be like for the girls? That they have to accept the proposal of the male lead?

Barb, you can't fake the look of shock that was on Brooks face when Des said ILY. He even asked her on their walk about what she was going to do because he wasn't sure how conflicted she was with feelings for the other 2 guys. He had no clue he was the only one she had feelings for.

I'm a little confused what you are asking about the F3 contract.

If the lead is a guy, the F3 girls still have to be willing to accept a proposal, even if she isn't the one doing the asking. So either way, the proposal is still a part of the F3, whether the guy offering or the girl accepting. Is that what you are asking?

Beeleever wrote:

BarbB222 wrote:

Beeleever wrote:

treschicas wrote:

Beeleever wrote:

I've produced and edited film for reality TV and have intimate knowledge of what goes on "behind the scenes". But you don't have to believe me, treschicas. I'm okay with that. I respect everyone's right to have a difference in opinion. Have a good night!  

I know this kind of stuff goes on but the producers usually have a certain motive for doing something. I don't see a motive here for this particular thing you claimed they could have done.

It is standard behavior for the final contestants every single season. The motive is to manipulate the contestants into saying and doing things for the sole purpose of increased viewership. Their #1 goal is to create drama and make a great show that will pull in high ratings.

Yes, I do think they tried manipulating Cat. But Cat is a very strong person and wouldn't allow herself to be manipulated. She wasn't even phased by Sean dating other girls. Cat just hung in there and trusted Sean instead of what she was being told.

Bee, your insights are informative and educational . Thank you. So you think once Brooks heard Des loved only him he realized he was being misinformed? How much do you think the F3 contract came into play for him ? Also, if the lead is a man, how are those contracts translated into the F3 being girls? Mainly because they aren't going to propose the male lead is. If the F3 contract are only for when there's a female lead then it's kinda unfair right? Not that the guys can help it since they are usually the proposers. But still one sided.
Also, what might an F3 contract be like for the girls? That they have to accept the proposal of the male lead?

Barb, you can't fake the look of shock that was on Brooks face when Des said ILY. He even asked her on their walk about what she was going to do because he wasn't sure how conflicted she was with feelings for the other 2 guys. He had no clue he was the only one she had feelings for.

I'm a little confused what you are asking about the F3 contract.

If the lead is a guy, the F3 girls still have to be willing to accept a proposal, even if she isn't the one doing the asking. So either way, the proposal is still a part of the F3, whether the guy offering or the girl accepting. Is that what you are asking?

I think deep down he knew she liked him. If a guy really loves a girl he wants more than anything to believe they like him back and he wants more than anything to be with her. He wouldn't just think,oh she doesn't like me I'm gonna leave. Brooks is in the final 3, he's got to know Des likes him and didn't Chris H even tell him Des would be hurt by this. I think Brooks just was in a difficult situation and didn't like hurting her so he didn't know what to say but to act surprised (which I didn't even think looked that convincing) cuz if it mattered he would have said "what, I didn't know that, I got the feeling you loved the other guys more, this changes everything." he didn't say this, instead he's thinking "crap this makes it even worse now, now i'm gonna make her feel even worse." Brooks never said he was leaving cuz he didn't want to be hurt in the end...some contestants actually say this....he never said this. I think it's 100% true his reason for leaving was because he wasn't feeling enough for her.

Beeleever wrote:

BarbB222 wrote:

Beeleever wrote:

treschicas wrote:

Beeleever wrote:

I've produced and edited film for reality TV and have intimate knowledge of what goes on "behind the scenes". But you don't have to believe me, treschicas. I'm okay with that. I respect everyone's right to have a difference in opinion. Have a good night!  

I know this kind of stuff goes on but the producers usually have a certain motive for doing something. I don't see a motive here for this particular thing you claimed they could have done.

It is standard behavior for the final contestants every single season. The motive is to manipulate the contestants into saying and doing things for the sole purpose of increased viewership. Their #1 goal is to create drama and make a great show that will pull in high ratings.

Yes, I do think they tried manipulating Cat. But Cat is a very strong person and wouldn't allow herself to be manipulated. She wasn't even phased by Sean dating other girls. Cat just hung in there and trusted Sean instead of what she was being told.

Bee, your insights are informative and educational . Thank you. So you think once Brooks heard Des loved only him he realized he was being misinformed? How much do you think the F3 contract came into play for him ? Also, if the lead is a man, how are those contracts translated into the F3 being girls? Mainly because they aren't going to propose the male lead is. If the F3 contract are only for when there's a female lead then it's kinda unfair right? Not that the guys can help it since they are usually the proposers. But still one sided.
Also, what might an F3 contract be like for the girls? That they have to accept the proposal of the male lead?

Barb, you can't fake the look of shock that was on Brooks face when Des said ILY. He even asked her on their walk about what she was going to do because he wasn't sure how conflicted she was with feelings for the other 2 guys. He had no clue he was the only one she had feelings for.

I'm a little confused what you are asking about the F3 contract.

If the lead is a guy, the F3 girls still have to be willing to accept a proposal, even if she isn't the one doing the asking. So either way, the proposal is still a part of the F3, whether the guy offering or the girl accepting. Is that what you are asking?

Yes that's what I'm asking . Does the F3 contract for a female contestant mean she HAS TO accept a proposal. Sorry. It's way late but I'm intrigued .

Anyway whatever happens at least Des is happy...well that's what she is saying. I hope it's true cuz I think she deserves to be happy after all this drama.

Not having read a recent F3 contract, I can't state it as fact.

But from what I understand, the contract changed after Brad 1.0, to ensure there would never again be a no-pick at the end. The only way to ensure this, is for the contracts to be the same for both males and females.

But again, I have not read a recent contract so it's possible the language could have changed. Not likely, though.

atem wrote:We do know that Brooks says 'I'm as in love as I've ever been' so he's got to be coming back!

When does he say that. I thought it was sleuthed out to of come from Chris??

atem wrote:

riddlexo3 wrote:it sounds like drew .  Brooks has this tone to his voice that is very child like .

No, it doesn't sound anything like Drew and he has never been in love before.

How do you know?? I don't remember Drew saying that he had never been in love before so am wondering where you heard it from as obviously I missed it. Thanks.

Aunties_Love wrote:

atem wrote:

riddlexo3 wrote:it sounds like drew .  Brooks has this tone to his voice that is very child like .

No, it doesn't sound anything like Drew and he has never been in love before.

How do you know??  I don't remember Drew saying that he had never been in love before so am wondering where you heard it from as obviously I missed it.  Thanks.

Which voiceover are you guys talking about?

well drew said the way he felt about Des he's never felt before....implying he's never felt that in love before?

treschicas wrote:

Beeleever wrote:

treschicas wrote:

Beeleever wrote:

atem wrote:

Beeleever wrote:Riddle...No one is 100% sure, but there is nothing to convince me you can be so incredibly in love with one person and then a week later, accept a proposal from another.

You need time to grieve the loss. How can we ignore Des telling Brooks her conflict was having to share her heart when she wanted to give it to him? That she was conflicted going on other dates because she only wanted to date him?

Would Des really accept a proposal for the sake of the show? Who would believe it after what we just saw last Monday?

Bee, do you also notice that Brooks almost always brings up 'that could be my future wife' in just about every date they have?  Is that left in for a reason?

Great catch, atem! They are leaving in many little clues along the way.

What was most telling to me was Brooks reaction when Des told him she loved him. He instantly questioned Des why she didn't tell him sooner.  He also had a little grin on his face he couldn't hide.

he prob didn't mind she said that....and he still left. why not stay then if that mattered? that just made him feel worse for dumping her...it didn't make him love her more.

Welllll...where do I begin??? I think Brooks had been told that her connection with the other guys was stronger. I also think he had been told that the other two had said ILY to Des and he was falling behind. So I think his wanting to leave was a defense mechanism. I think Des telling Brooks that she loved him came as a complete surprise to him.

Why didn't he stay? I think he is thinking very strongly about things now that he knows...

Now why in the world would they tell Brooks her connection with the other guys were stronger when they knew Des said she was in love with him. They are risking her walking off the set if Brooks leaves....why would producers or whoever do that. I think that is totally not true. Brooks left cuz he wasn't feeling it. He started looking bored on their dates. He hardly says anything witty around her. He wasn't in love with her.

I agree with the point of Brooks leaving because he wasn't feeling it. He's said it enough to Harrison, Des and his mom/sis. I thought that on the clouds date, Brooks was not as comfortable and kinda checked out a bit on that date. Then when he went back and talked to his family, I "thought" that he made reference to that date as to how he wasn't feeling it with Des. If I remember right, that is when his sister said that he should be feeling it by now.