Brooks-Forester-Bachelorette-9-Contestant-Spoilers-Discussion

The best outcome for this show would never be a proposal, but that's not how it works. An engagement on this show just means we'll commit to trying it out IRL and seeing where it goes. IMHO.

bilolo wrote:

treschicas wrote:

Kaltie wrote:

bilolo wrote:

treschicas wrote:I mean do you think they told Catherine that Sean had a stronger connection with the other girls just for the heck of it?

did you not listen to what Jason and Molly said in their podcast ? btw monday is not that far away all your predictions will come to an end and you'll see who's final 1 lol

 Link the podcast with Molly and Jason. =)

No I did not listen to it. but anyway I still don't see how she could be engaged to Brooks..I could be totally wrong though! I guess this will be an exciting episode to watch...It's funny how this started off as a boring season cuz the spoilers were out and there was no doubt they were true...but now there is drama.

but you can see her engaged to Chris

well Des's brother tweeted that the guy Des picked was a nice guy..implying she does pick someone. So if it's not Brooks the next more plausible choice would be Chris. Chris H's blogs don't support an engagement between Brooks and Des (yes I know people say don't let his blogs deceive you but I still think in some way they give a clue to the ending) so it just seems it might be Chris S and the surprise is just that instead of going home she ends up with Chris. Then there is that twitter pic of Chris where he looks all happy in his swim trunks...looks like a pic that a girlfriend took..possibly Des? and that same day she tweets something like Be-YOU-ti-ful #loveyou (i forget the exact tweet). Then Nate says Reality Steve's spoilers are wrong...why would he say that? just to mess with us? unless they're paying him to lie? i guess he could mean part of the spoiler is wrong and not all of it but who knows. Finally there is not evidence. like post FRC stuff (airport sightings, tweets, pics, etc) to support that Brooks is F1. And of course the obvious thing is Brooks breaking up with her and I just felt he was being truthful in saying he wasn't in love with her and I just don't see him having a change of heart to go from leaving for that reason and then proposing? Anyway I'm not saying its impossible but I'm just having a hard time believing it and I usually believe the spoilers.

Beeleever wrote:

treschicas wrote:

Beeleever wrote:

I've produced and edited film for reality TV and have intimate knowledge of what goes on "behind the scenes". But you don't have to believe me, treschicas. I'm okay with that. I respect everyone's right to have a difference in opinion. Have a good night!  

I know this kind of stuff goes on but the producers usually have a certain motive for doing something. I don't see a motive here for this particular thing you claimed they could have done.

It is standard behavior for the final contestants every single season. The motive is to manipulate the contestants into saying and doing things for the sole purpose of increased viewership. Their #1 goal is to create drama and make a great show that will pull in high ratings.

Yes, I do think they tried manipulating Cat. But Cat is a very strong person and wouldn't allow herself to be manipulated. She wasn't even phased by Sean dating other girls. Cat just hung in there and trusted Sean instead of what she was being told.

Bee, your insights are informative and educational . Thank you. So you think once Brooks heard Des loved only him he realized he was being misinformed? How much do you think the F3 contract came into play for him ? Also, if the lead is a man, how are those contracts translated into the F3 being girls? Mainly because they aren't going to propose the male lead is. If the F3 contract are only for when there's a female lead then it's kinda unfair right? Not that the guys can help it since they are usually the proposers. But still one sided.
Also, what might an F3 contract be like for the girls? That they have to accept the proposal of the male lead?

gabriele wrote:

treschicas wrote:Beeleever....I mean do you think they told Catherine that Sean had a stronger connection with the other girls just for the heck of it?

they don't do it for the heck of it. they do it to get really strong emotional reactions from the contestants. Cat was totally surprised sean picked her at the FRC. she had to ask him if it was real. they do it with all the contestants. just listen to that jason and molly podcast or read what nutty wrote about it on the media thread.

don't drink the kool-aid people! 

I didn't think Cat was THAT surprised...but I mean she had at least a 50% shot...she is smart is what she is...cuz she knows just because she feels he might pick her doesn't mean he is so she prob didn't set herself up to believe it was her for sure (some contestants do this)...but anyway so Catherine never said she was manipulted in some weird way...these are guesses? I still think Brooks left cuz he wasn't in love with Des and not because of producer manipulation...they might have manipulated other contestants for other reasons or they might have manipulated Brooks in other ways but not this.

I think if Brooks did leave on his own this is sad you guys keep making up excuses for it. So if Brooks comes out on the ATFR and admits he wasn't falling for DEs....are you guys gonna claim he was manipulated and that he loves Des. I don't get it.

iamreal2u wrote:

atem wrote:

sfrank wrote:I wonder how Brooks feels watching the show back and hearing Des say over and over that she's in love with him? He certainly knows she was telling him truth on the dock. His family also knows how she feels...if he is F1 its gotta feel pretty good!

He better be saying the same in the finale!

He better be because on the reverse, Des is not feeling that great listening to his lead up FRC.  I just feel so terrible for Chris and Drew listening and reading this stuff.

Chris looked pretty happy in that pic that Des took of him at the safehouse...so don't worry about him.

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Let me add that my predictions aren't because I want Des and Chris together or that I like Chris so much (I thought he was cute in the beginning but as the show progressed found him to be kinda dorky and awkward, still think he's cute but not obsessed over him or anything). So i'm not basing my reasonings on emotion like a lot of you here. I'm basing it mostly on evidence.

I think the thing that ultimately caused him to leave was just a defense mechanism. He'd leave before she could hurt him. He would close off when they were apart because he would think about the other guys she was dating and forming relationships with. I don't know if the producers helped put those thoughts there, but I believe that if she had told him she loved him a lot earlier he would've been more vulnerable to her. Like he said, "Why didn't you tell me this earlier?"

You heard him say it repeatedly this past episode, to everybody, including Desiree, that he wanted to be in love with her; he wanted to be there. He just didn't want to get hurt. And then she told him she loved him, repeatedly, and that she only wanted to be with him and date him and give him her heart. He asked her if she wanted him to leave, and told her he didn't know what to do; he didn't want to leave. He could now be vulnerable to her and didn't want to leave.

She missed those cues from him. It didn't seem like it was on purpose, but it might've been. This is where I think she started to make him chase her. She wasn't going to let him out of it. She left and we saw the immediate aftermath with him. It was up to him now to get her back. Foreshadowed by his brother and some nice music.

But see, I honestly don't believe that he doesn't love her. Even in his ITM's he was saying "I don't know if I am in love with her... entirely." Leaving it open intentionally. I got the impression when he was talking to his mom and sister that he was concerned about proposing to her because a proposal comes with a declaration of love. He had all these things that he loved about her but I just don't think he could put a term to it. We knew he was way past like but just not to love yet. I think if he would of had longer to decide if he wanted to marry her, he would of been okay but when he is being pressured to say that he loves her, he cracked and took the easy way out. I can see why he did that, especially if he was given misinformation and could see the connections she was forming with the other guys. It wasn't fair to her to keep him around when she had two other guys that were SURE in their feelings when he just wasn't yet. The look on his face when she said I love you to him was of complete shock. I think that was the moment when he started to realize that maybe she wasn't as conflicted as he thought she was but at that point, he had already said so much and dug himself in this huge hole that he just couldn't get out of.

As for proof that he is F1, I don't know if it's really fair to say that they weren't both off the radar at the same time. Brooks has not tweeted once since May 28th so we don't have a timeline when he popped up on social media or not. We do have a timeline when he listened to music but that could be listened to anywhere. Spotify does have an app for phones. Besides the one potential safehouse picture of Chris, has there been any sightings of him at any airports?

kebarrera wrote:But see, I honestly don't believe that he doesn't love her. Even in his ITM's he was saying "I don't know if I am in love with her... entirely." Leaving it open intentionally. I got the impression when he was talking to his mom and sister that he was concerned about proposing to her because a proposal comes with a declaration of love. He had all these things that he loved about her but I just don't think he could put a term to it. We knew he was way past like but just not to love yet. I think if he would of had longer to decide if he wanted to marry her, he would of been okay but when he is being pressured to say that he loves her, he cracked and took the easy way out. I can see why he did that, especially if he was given misinformation and could see the connections she was forming with the other guys. It wasn't fair to her to keep him around when she had two other guys that were SURE in their feelings when he just wasn't yet. The look on his face when she said I love you to him was of complete shock. I think that was the moment when he started to realize that maybe she wasn't as conflicted as he thought she was but at that point, he had already said so much and dug himself in this huge hole that he just couldn't get out of.

As for proof that he is F1, I don't know if it's really fair to say that they weren't both off the radar at the same time. Brooks has not tweeted once since May 28th so we don't have a timeline when he popped up on social media or not. We do have a timeline when he listened to music but that could be listened to anywhere. Spotify does have an app for phones. Besides the one potential safehouse picture of Chris, has there been any sightings of him at any airports?

I just didn't get that feeling. Throughout the show I wondered how much he liked her and this was even before the breakup. I felt like liked her but he wasn't madly in love...he didn't have that feeling...the one where you just want to be with someone so much and propose to them...this is what happened to Brad in the first season....he liked DeAnna and Jennie but not enough to continue to date them and certainly not enough to propose...this is how I feel Brooks feels about Des and that is why he left. He's also confused because look at the situation he is thrown in...all the guys want to date her...they are all suppose to fall for the lead...he's confused cuz he's suppose to like her but he doesn't that much...I feel like the only reason he even liked her as much as he did was because she was the lead. So why haven't Chris and Drew tried to leave, why weren't they manipulated....prob cuz they like Des so much they couldn't be manipulated enough to leave. you all sound like girls do when they are in relationships where the guy strings them along but just aren't that into them. If a guy really loves a girl, he will do anything to get her. I just don't think Brooks does.

Let me make another point...nothing against Des but it's not like she is the type of girl that every guy likes or falls in love with. She even said it herself. I mean Sean didn't fall in love with her either...he even preferred Catherine over her and I could see why. Even though catherine was weird sometimes something about her Sean just liked more. something is missing with Des sometimes. I can't pinpoint it. She is pretty and sweet but just something. So really can you can't expect every contestant on the show to fall for her. If I were her I would take Chris or Drew and run.