Drew Kenney - Bachelorette 9 Contestant - Discussion - Spoilers

misticia wrote:

Ariela wrote:

concerned36 wrote:I read that according to the rules, Desiree was required to eliminate one of the 3 after overnight dates, unless one voluntarily left. Since Brooks left on his own, she did not have to eliminate.  Remember, the spoilers had Drew leaving last Monday night. Another reason not to believe the spoilers.  They also said Zak was going to make it to Antigua. So no, I don't believe the spoilers! :Smiley: 
Don't you think Des does not look happy in recent appearances such as MTA and talk shows?  Yet, Drew looks happy?  Folks have been saying that she was engaged to Brooks, but they probably broke up already, hence the jaded and angry demeanor on MTA. But her brother says she is happily engaged. They are really trying to keep us guessing.   is my guess. :Smiley: 

I thought she didn't look happy. She was acting kind of "snippy".
Love should make you a better person, not a sour one. She said that Brooks brought out the best in her...Umm, where is he?
When you're happy, you should be nice to everyone, and enjoy your stay.

On another note: The gay thing needs to STOP.
Yes Drew is good looking, almost too perfect  so people cannot believe that  he's straight.
Why would any gay man go on this show and PRETEND?
You cannot fake passion with the opposite sex....if he can, I'll use my favorite line: Move over Meryl Streep, Drew is getting an Emmy...........!

I find very interesting the fact that the only man who shows physical attraction towards Des from episode 1 was said gay by people who don't know him. ITA with the bolded. This is useless and stupid: he acted sometimes more manly than a lot of the other contestants in this show.

You can watch him exiting the limo in episode 1: after a few second, he was already staring at her entire body (under the cover of watching the dress - when he said she looked stunning). After that, during their talk in te alcove, he couldn't help to gaze at her breast and when she noticed it, he was really embarassed (he was so cute: it was obvious that he was already into her - but as a well mannered man, he apologized).

I also invite you to watch him kissing Des and observe what he does in a lot of kiss with his right hands. That demonstrates he knows very well women ;-)

I think his sort of child-innocence, his discomfort in front camera (especially when he has to move) and his good looks are the cause of this gay rumor. If I am not surpised that men can do these stupid comments, I'm more astonished wen women also do: shouldn't they know how to recognize mens' interest ?

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2observe wrote:

concerned36 wrote:FYI, they have posted on the Bachelorette website, the two finalists: Chris and Drew, along with Date by Date pics and videos.  Even though Chris had 2 1-1 dates, they have listed 8 dates for Drew and 7 dates for Chris.   as well as the 3 deleted scenes I hope folks will notice.
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Enjoy all my fellow Drew fans!

Thanks!  So Drew made it to F2.   

Maybe I am missing the point of this.  These are dates we know they have been on.

Aunties_Love wrote:

2observe wrote:

concerned36 wrote:FYI, they have posted on the Bachelorette website, the two finalists: Chris and Drew, along with Date by Date pics and videos.  Even though Chris had 2 1-1 dates, they have listed 8 dates for Drew and 7 dates for Chris.   as well as the 3 deleted scenes I hope folks will notice.
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Enjoy all my fellow Drew fans!

Thanks!  So Drew made it to F2.   

Yea, it looks that way!!

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grace8136 wrote:

hberry wrote:

Nativenewyorker wrote:

concerned36 wrote:

Nativenewyorker wrote:

misticia wrote:

Nativenewyorker wrote:

Hotmomma wrote:Well team Drew..to me means they are for their son no matter of the outcome...

This is how I see it. I do not think it's a sign that Drew is F1. I am not trying to be a downer here. Drew has been my favorite all season. I think he's an exceptional young man. However, I do have to go with what I believe. Before Monday night's episode, I did think that there was possibility that it might be Drew or even Chris. For all the reasons that some here have said so well, I did think Drew had a chance. However, once I watched that scene with Des and Brooks, I knew that for Des it had only been Brooks from very early on. She did not keep her promise to have an open mind with the guys.  Maybe one could argue that Des said some stuff to make Brooks feel guilty, but her basic feelings of love for Brooks were quite obvious.

I have really enjoyed reading the posts from those who believe there was more between Des and Drew.  I do think she liked him and was very attracted to him. But it was Brooks all along.  The heart wants what the heart wants. However, I am not surprised that there were scenes with Drew that were never shown. For whatever reason, TPTB decided to give Drew a really weird edit.  They didn't highlight him at all earlier in the season. I have no idea what's up with that.

I am just glad that Drew has his family with him before the ATFR show.  He should be surrounded by those who love him best.

I never thought that was more between Des and Drew. But Des was more physically attracted to Drew than to Brooks and certainly very flattered by his infatuation. A such good looking and caring guy, who couldn't be ?

I agree.  I did think that the body language from Des was very revealing when she was with Drew. Just to make it clear, I did think that there could be a chance for Drew because of the things that you and others have said. I saw the same things. However, when I watched that scene with Brooks and Des, to me it became apparent that Des only wanted Brooks and no one else. The one thing she said that really stood out to me, was her comment that while she went on dates with the other guys, she really just wanted to be with Brooks. That was quite telling. After seeing that, I realized that there was no chance for Chris or Drew. It didn't make me happy either.

Someone here said something about a comment Des made to Zak at the MTA. She said that he has that smile that covers up what he may be feeling. She said that she also does the same thing. Of course, I am paraphrasing here. But it appears that Des can fake it to a certain extent. I do believe that she enjoyed her time with Drew, was very flattered to have such a gorgeous guy giving her this kind of attention.  I think she was pleasantly surprised that Drew also had a brain and a heart to go along with his great looks.  I think she was physically attracted to him.  But I believe that she set her heart on Brooks early on. After seeing that scene where Brooks dumped her, that was what I thought. I think it was a mistake on her part.  She had three great guys in Zak, Drew and Chris.  But it was Brooks all along.

I do think that Des has an immature approach to love. She has a history of choosing men who do not reciprocate; she hasn't learned yet even though she told Chris H during the first episode at her mansion that she had learned from this and wanted to find a husband who could freely express his love for her and communicate this to her. Ironically, she once again chose a man just like her old boyfriend (she might as well have kept him). And remember how she also cried over Sean, in a very immature fashion, with total lack of self-respect. Contrast her behavior with that of Lindsay Yenter, who took her rejection with such grace. Chris H alludes to the fact that Des has to learn from this in order to move forward. The problem is not that these men cannot express themselves, it is that they do not love her, something she is not able to discern like most mature women. What she has is called infatuation which is really an adolescent crush, typical for 8th or 9th graders. At her age, she should not even be thinking of falling in love with a man who has not strongly shown love and attraction for her. Women really fall in love with men who are first pursuing them. (since men run away from women who pursue them, )  Brooks tried his best to communicate that he was not on the same page with her. I could see during the last couple of Rose ceremonies, he seemed to be willing her not to give him a rose, please, please, please don't give me a rose. Des may have revealed that she wants only Brooks, however, she wanted Sean too but moved on quickly, recovered and went on to be the Bachelorette. The thing Brooks said that no self-respecting woman would be able to move past, is that he did not miss her during their times apart. That is huge. I don't see how she will be able to overlook that, it would be a deal-breaker for me. But I am obviously not Desiree.

Really great post!  

 

I highlighted some of the things that really stood out to me. I think Des has no idea what real love even looks like.  She is all mixed up and looking for it with the wrong men.  

The last part in bold is really key for me. That is the part that I could not forget and could not get past.  I understand that I am decades older than Des and have so much more life experience.  That is why I can say with clarity that I would not go back with someone who said that to me. Ever.  It is a deal-breaker. You know, some things can be taken back with a sincere apology and an admission that one was wrong at the time, didn't really know what he wanted, had to lose it to find out.  But there are things that are said that cannot be easily undone. That is one of them.

From where I am today, with what I have experienced in my own life, I would never take him back. But as you said, we are not Desiree. I respect that it is her life. She has to follow her own journey.

.......................sometimes you need to stop chasing the wrong guy, and let the good ones catch up to you..................

Just food for thought in this discussion. They have replayed Brooks saying there is nothing he can say to make this better... gotta agree with him on that one!

Love it! However, it would appear that he will come back to and say stuff to make it better. If you believe the spoilers, then it also appears that it worked. At least for now.  

2observe wrote:

rosesrREd wrote:

2observe wrote:

concerned36 wrote:FYI, they have posted on the Bachelorette website, the two finalists: Chris and Drew, along with Date by Date pics and videos.  Even though Chris had 2 1-1 dates, they have listed 8 dates for Drew and 7 dates for Chris.   as well as the 3 deleted scenes I hope folks will notice.
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Enjoy all my fellow Drew fans!

Thanks!  So Drew made it to F2.   

Maybe I am missing the point of this.  These are dates we know they have been on.

According to RS spoilers Drew was to have been eliminated at F4, then he was suppose to be eliminated at F3, now it looks like he's made it to F2.  That was my point.  

Ariela wrote:

concerned36 wrote:I read that according to the rules, Desiree was required to eliminate one of the 3 after overnight dates, unless one voluntarily left. Since Brooks left on his own, she did not have to eliminate.  Remember, the spoilers had Drew leaving last Monday night. Another reason not to believe the spoilers.  They also said Zak was going to make it to Antigua. So no, I don't believe the spoilers! :Smiley: 
Don't you think Des does not look happy in recent appearances such as MTA and talk shows?  Yet, Drew looks happy?  Folks have been saying that she was engaged to Brooks, but they probably broke up already, hence the jaded and angry demeanor on MTA. But her brother says she is happily engaged. They are really trying to keep us guessing.   is my guess. :Smiley: 

I thought she didn't look happy. She was acting kind of "snippy".
Love should make you a better person, not a sour one. She said that Brooks brought out the best in her...Umm, where is he?
When you're happy, you should be nice to everyone, and enjoy your stay.

On another note: The gay thing needs to STOP.
Yes Drew is good looking, almost too perfect  so people cannot believe that  he's straight.
Why would any gay man go on this show and PRETEND?
You cannot fake passion with the opposite sex....if he can, I'll use my favorite line: Move over Meryl Streep, Drew is getting an Emmy...........!

2observe wrote:

Nativenewyorker wrote:

grace8136 wrote:

hberry wrote:

Nativenewyorker wrote:

concerned36 wrote:

Nativenewyorker wrote:

misticia wrote:

Nativenewyorker wrote:

Hotmomma wrote:Well team Drew..to me means they are for their son no matter of the outcome...

This is how I see it. I do not think it's a sign that Drew is F1. I am not trying to be a downer here. Drew has been my favorite all season. I think he's an exceptional young man. However, I do have to go with what I believe. Before Monday night's episode, I did think that there was possibility that it might be Drew or even Chris. For all the reasons that some here have said so well, I did think Drew had a chance. However, once I watched that scene with Des and Brooks, I knew that for Des it had only been Brooks from very early on. She did not keep her promise to have an open mind with the guys.  Maybe one could argue that Des said some stuff to make Brooks feel guilty, but her basic feelings of love for Brooks were quite obvious.

I have really enjoyed reading the posts from those who believe there was more between Des and Drew.  I do think she liked him and was very attracted to him. But it was Brooks all along.  The heart wants what the heart wants. However, I am not surprised that there were scenes with Drew that were never shown. For whatever reason, TPTB decided to give Drew a really weird edit.  They didn't highlight him at all earlier in the season. I have no idea what's up with that.

I am just glad that Drew has his family with him before the ATFR show.  He should be surrounded by those who love him best.

I never thought that was more between Des and Drew. But Des was more physically attracted to Drew than to Brooks and certainly very flattered by his infatuation. A such good looking and caring guy, who couldn't be ?

I agree.  I did think that the body language from Des was very revealing when she was with Drew. Just to make it clear, I did think that there could be a chance for Drew because of the things that you and others have said. I saw the same things. However, when I watched that scene with Brooks and Des, to me it became apparent that Des only wanted Brooks and no one else. The one thing she said that really stood out to me, was her comment that while she went on dates with the other guys, she really just wanted to be with Brooks. That was quite telling. After seeing that, I realized that there was no chance for Chris or Drew. It didn't make me happy either.

Someone here said something about a comment Des made to Zak at the MTA. She said that he has that smile that covers up what he may be feeling. She said that she also does the same thing. Of course, I am paraphrasing here. But it appears that Des can fake it to a certain extent. I do believe that she enjoyed her time with Drew, was very flattered to have such a gorgeous guy giving her this kind of attention.  I think she was pleasantly surprised that Drew also had a brain and a heart to go along with his great looks.  I think she was physically attracted to him.  But I believe that she set her heart on Brooks early on. After seeing that scene where Brooks dumped her, that was what I thought. I think it was a mistake on her part.  She had three great guys in Zak, Drew and Chris.  But it was Brooks all along.

I do think that Des has an immature approach to love. She has a history of choosing men who do not reciprocate; she hasn't learned yet even though she told Chris H during the first episode at her mansion that she had learned from this and wanted to find a husband who could freely express his love for her and communicate this to her. Ironically, she once again chose a man just like her old boyfriend (she might as well have kept him). And remember how she also cried over Sean, in a very immature fashion, with total lack of self-respect. Contrast her behavior with that of Lindsay Yenter, who took her rejection with such grace. Chris H alludes to the fact that Des has to learn from this in order to move forward. The problem is not that these men cannot express themselves, it is that they do not love her, something she is not able to discern like most mature women. What she has is called infatuation which is really an adolescent crush, typical for 8th or 9th graders. At her age, she should not even be thinking of falling in love with a man who has not strongly shown love and attraction for her. Women really fall in love with men who are first pursuing them. (since men run away from women who pursue them, )  Brooks tried his best to communicate that he was not on the same page with her. I could see during the last couple of Rose ceremonies, he seemed to be willing her not to give him a rose, please, please, please don't give me a rose. Des may have revealed that she wants only Brooks, however, she wanted Sean too but moved on quickly, recovered and went on to be the Bachelorette. The thing Brooks said that no self-respecting woman would be able to move past, is that he did not miss her during their times apart. That is huge. I don't see how she will be able to overlook that, it would be a deal-breaker for me. But I am obviously not Desiree.

Really great post!  

 

I highlighted some of the things that really stood out to me. I think Des has no idea what real love even looks like.  She is all mixed up and looking for it with the wrong men.  

The last part in bold is really key for me. That is the part that I could not forget and could not get past.  I understand that I am decades older than Des and have so much more life experience.  That is why I can say with clarity that I would not go back with someone who said that to me. Ever.  It is a deal-breaker. You know, some things can be taken back with a sincere apology and an admission that one was wrong at the time, didn't really know what he wanted, had to lose it to find out.  But there are things that are said that cannot be easily undone. That is one of them.

From where I am today, with what I have experienced in my own life, I would never take him back. But as you said, we are not Desiree. I respect that it is her life. She has to follow her own journey.

.......................sometimes you need to stop chasing the wrong guy, and let the good ones catch up to you..................

Just food for thought in this discussion. They have replayed Brooks saying there is nothing he can say to make this better... gotta agree with him on that one!

Love it! However, it would appear that he will come back to and say stuff to make it better. If you believe the spoilers, then it also appears that it worked. At least for now.  

Native, re: the bolded, Brooks has passed up every opportunity to work out things with Des, so I really don't see a reason for his return. LOL  

hberry wrote:there is a VO with Desiree in one of the preview, where she says:
-after tonight, l want him down on one knee..because l love him, I've always knew that I was desverving of love, but I've never felt so loved...

and there is a Vo with Drew too, where he says:
- l've waited a long time for this moment, I've finally found "the ONE", my soul mate, i would get down on one knee today and ask her to marry me. But she doesn't know that yet. Am just hoping for the opportunity, and am hoping tonight is that night

did they got engaged at night or something?