Re: Brooks Forester - Bachelorette 9 Contestant - Spoilers - Thread #13

[MonicaJM2001]

What by the way, is this earthquake people were talking about earlier?

[Guest]

There was an earthquake in Antigua at the time of the filming.

[BarbB222]

What by the way, is this earthquake people were talking about earlier?

Earthquake: M 5.6, Antigua and Barbuda region, Leeward Islands
Apr 29, 2013, 9:04 p.m. from earthquake.usgs.gov by editor

[MonicaJM2001]

There was an earthquake in Antigua at the time of the filming.

 Oh my.....well maybe the whole Bres saga is just a dream Des or Brooks has after being thrown to the ground and knocked unconscious ala Wizard of Oz and when they wake up they'll realize that sucked and feelings will be confimed/expressed and BAM there ya go.

[Aunties_Love]

From Desiree's blog:

Next week, tune in for one of the most emotional episodes ever – which is a really weird thing to write, because it is my life we are talking about here! It will be a defining moment for me in my journey to find love.

So IMO - defining moment, may be accepting that she might not get a proposal.  Maybe that is why RS is wrong.  Maybe they are just dating?

To me "defining moment" means she realizes she's going for the "wrong guy" again.  

Hense, she changes her mind and takes Chris and Drew to the finale. Brooks is the wrong guy as she fell in love with him more than he loved her.

[Guest]

From Desiree's blog:

Next week, tune in for one of the most emotional episodes ever – which is a really weird thing to write, because it is my life we are talking about here! It will be a defining moment for me in my journey to find love.

So IMO - defining moment, may be accepting that she might not get a proposal.  Maybe that is why RS is wrong.  Maybe they are just dating?

To me "defining moment" means she realizes she's going for the "wrong guy" again.  

Hense, she changes her mind and takes Chris and Drew to the finale.  Brooks is the wrong guy as she fell in love with him more than he loved her.

Nah. Brooks is the right guy. Momentary lapse of reason. Sort of like the Pink Floyd song.

[MonicaJM2001]

From Desiree's blog:

Next week, tune in for one of the most emotional episodes ever – which is a really weird thing to write, because it is my life we are talking about here! It will be a defining moment for me in my journey to find love.

So IMO - defining moment, may be accepting that she might not get a proposal.  Maybe that is why RS is wrong.  Maybe they are just dating?

To me "defining moment" means she realizes she's going for the "wrong guy" again.  

Hense, she changes her mind and takes Chris and Drew to the finale.  Brooks is the wrong guy as she fell in love with him more than he loved her.

Nah. Brooks is the right guy. Momentary lapse of reason. Sort of like the Pink Floyd song.

I think the whole wrong guy blah blah is a red herring. Her defining moment I think is more likely in regards to that comment she made about what she wanted vs what she needed. She of course wanted the scenario both Drew and Chris offer at the moment but ultimately she needed the guy that was more of a "challenge" aka took his time to sort his feelings out which for the love of all sanity is NOT a bad thing! The way some people talk about this you would think Brooks and Des has been dating exclusively for a couple years and how dare he not know his how to classify his feelings yet! It has been what 6 weeks maybe? And that is with on again off again dates and sharing her with other guys? Call me crazy, throw tomatoes at me whatever you want, but I think it is ok to cut the guy some slack. He obviously cares deeply for her enough to not just say "I love you" just for the sake of it.

[Aunties_Love]

You know, I hit on this thought in another thread, but why is it all about Brooks having to speed up (something that doesn't seem to be his style) and go Des' way? Maybe it's Des that needs to learn to bend a little and come his. She is racing ahead and he's trying desperately to keep up and she's putting a lot of pressure on him. MAYBE what she learns, the learning curve she refers to, is that she realizes that if she wants him (which she professes she does) she needs to come his way a little bit. Maybe that's what she means by wants vs. needs. She wants him to be the racehorse, a guy to just race to the finish with her, and she learns, by the end, that if she wants him she's going to need to come his way.

She sacrifices her want of the race to the finish for what she needs, him, even if that means slowing down a bit.

I mean, really, why is it all about Des?

 Yup. She's getting what she wants from Chris and Drew. Assurances and proclamations of love. But what she needs imo is to be with the man she is in love with and I believe returns those feelings even if it is at a slower pace than the others. It actually would mean more to me if i were in that position to know the guy thought it through and even struggled a little because that would show me he is serious about it and when he did say it, I'd know he truly believed it and meant it. TPTB are getting what they want though. My friend (unspoiled) is drinking the :koolaid:and thinks Brooks isn't right for her because he seems so unsure still. She says she should have kept Zak instead since he really loves her. SMH.

Well, love is a two-way street and maybe she needs to learn that. I think it's totally possible she needed to learn that. After all, she only has her brother, who she doesn't seem close to at all, and left her family and has little to do with any of them. She lives a pretty selfish life. Then along comes Brooks who doesn't follow her plans, yet, stick in her craw, she can't get over the fact that she's in love with him. She's waiting, she wants him to start to rush. She's waiting, waiting. And eventually he starts to feel the pressure to the point where he's really questioning everything and might not think he can give her everything she wants, even though he would like to explore further. CH tells him to tell her his problems, knowing how Des has talked and how she'll act. And she can't handle it. It's not what Brooks wanted. He just wanted, hopefully, to get her to see things his way a little. She wants that perfect race to the finish, though. The others are giving her that, for sure. Brooks is left going "This is the worst day of my life. There's nothing I can say." She thinks she doesn't want to love someone who doesn't love her as much. She always loves the wrong guys. She soon learns that if she wants to keep Brooks she's going to need to think of him a little more.

Her learning curve is she learns that if she REALLY wants to be with Brooks she's going to have to bend and give and come his way a little. If she doesn't, she's going to lose him. And he, in turn, learns he loves her, for real, because he thinks he's lost her (like his brother predicted). They both come together, in the end.

While you're doing all this reflecting on what Des needs to do or what Des needed to have done, would you be as kind to remind Brooks that he is on a 10 weeks SHOW and that Des knows the time is limited.. I mean she knows TPTB are on her daily to make sure Brooks is ready to propose to her at the end, so it would be so nice to kindly cut Des a little bit of slack once in a while.

And for the grace of God can you please tell me how you come up with Des lives a selfish life? How do you know it's of her own choosing that she lives in a different state than her parents do? Was she so wrong to move from where they live to try to make a life and have a career of her own? I would frown more on her if she lived in their basement and didn't have a career..

People seem to forget with all this Brooks love that Des has a show to put on and has guidelines to go by. If Brook didn't consider himself ready to fall in love in that length of time then why on earth did he even go on the show???? JMHO!!

Love your post.  AMEN!  I feel that as in some seasons, the lead seems to be a forgotten side matter that can be ragged on when he/she don't fit in with the fave.  I find it so funny how it is Des's fault or Des's problem when it is obvious that Des as the lead is the one that is under tremendous pressure..more so than the guys there for her.  If Brooks, Drew, or Chris can't or won't give her what she needs and wants, then maybe she really does need to take a step back and sort things out.  

If Brooks is the one that is causing all the angst because he isn't willing to committ or has other problems that need to be looked at, then she needs to take that into account.  IF for some reason it is Des that has the problem, then she needs to sort through that too, but to assume and state so harshly that it is Des that needs to do all the reassessment and giving in because of the fanlove for the one guy that they "think" is going through such a hard time with this and it is "only" the guy that is having a hard time and needs to be "forgiven", how fair is that?  I think the blanket statement that was made with regards to how Des is living a selfish life or how Des is the one that needs to give in more...IMO isn't a realistic thing considering SHE is the lead and not the guy that is being "fanloved" on.

[atem]

Until we see the full scene, we don't know what Brooks answer to Chris' question is.

A lot of assuming has to go on, because we see .o5 of what happened.

Desiree herself has she has done things to reassure Brooks. That does tell me he has told her that.

[pander3575]

From Desiree's blog:

Next week, tune in for one of the most emotional episodes ever – which is a really weird thing to write, because it is my life we are talking about here! It will be a defining moment for me in my journey to find love.

So IMO - defining moment, may be accepting that she might not get a proposal.  Maybe that is why RS is wrong.  Maybe they are just dating?

To me "defining moment" means she realizes she's going for the "wrong guy" again.  

Hense, she changes her mind and takes Chris and Drew to the finale.  Brooks is the wrong guy as she fell in love with him more than he loved her.

Nah. Brooks is the right guy. Momentary lapse of reason. Sort of like the Pink Floyd song.

I think the whole wrong guy blah blah is a red herring. Her defining moment I think is more likely in regards to that comment she made about what she wanted vs what she needed. She of course wanted the scenario both Drew and Chris offer at the moment but ultimately she needed the guy that was more of a "challenge" aka took his time to sort his feelings out which for the love of all sanity is NOT a bad thing! The way some people talk about this you would think Brooks and Des has been dating exclusively for a couple years and how dare he not know his how to classify his feelings yet! It has been what 6 weeks maybe? And that is with on again off again dates and sharing her with other guys? Call me crazy, throw tomatoes at me whatever you want, but I think it is ok to cut the guy some slack. He obviously cares deeply for her enough to not just say "I love you" just for the sake of it.

Love this post. Doesn't anyone worry that Chris and Drew said ILY so early? I like all three. They all would make wonderful husbands and fathers. Did Drew even get a second 1-1? I don't know what Brooks is worried about or really feeling but at least he's using his head to questions if things are real or not.

[sfrank]

Yes, that's the problem! Because Zak, Chris, and Drew have said it so early, Brooks looks like the "non-committal" guy for waiting. Its insane!

[nutty1]

dang. I like brooks. But you know, he ain't getting the F1 edit. No sirree. Right now it looks like Chris is the F1.?????????

What's the best way to hide an obvious F1? Mess with the edit . That's what they've done to Brooks thus far. All previews and  media are creating doubt for 1 person. Brooks. Have at it I say! We know it will all work out in the end. It's become Brooks-Gate.

 

And I just have to say "Anguilla" almost made me spit my coffee out!! Thanks Natalie, you should be solving the problems of the world!

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