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Post by pander3575 Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:11 pm

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Iluvbachette wrote:I just don't understand everyone getting on the band wagon for Brooks. The fact that, that information was out there in magazine form so early screams red flag to me. I just don't see MF doing this, if Brooks is the chosen one. I would understand that if they wanted to pull a joke on the world. Especially RS then it makes sense. But then at least Brooks and Des would have to be privy to parts of what goes out there. I am sure not all because TPTB would want raw emotions from Des. The fact that TPTB have so many ways of opening up the doors for so many people after the show. Doesn't hurt either. We know Des likes to joke around so I can see it being planned out between her and TPTB. Remember TPTB were in another law suit at the time with RS again. So to burn him with false information wouldn't surprise me. Keeping in mind he was already burned as to when Drew would be going home.

I don't think I understand your post. Why are people on the "bandwagon" for Chris or Drew? I assume its the same reason I am for Brooks. I like Brooks. I also see her chemistry with Brooks and it doesn't compare to the others, IMO. But everyone sees something different -- just ask the staunchest Chris and Drew supporters.

If Brooks is F1, great! If he is not, I will be disappointed but ok. Its Des' choice. Being a fan of Brooks and him being F1 are two different things and not mutually exclusive.
I don't think that people are on the bandwagon for Chris or Drew because they weren't the spoiled F1, but more so because they are liked.  I guess what I find really surprising is that before the season started, there were some Brooks likers on here but when the spoiler came out about F1 being Brooks, the Brooks love went through the roof.  I know this sort of thing happens each season when the F1 spoiler is leaked, but this time, there seems to be more questions than answers. A lot of things are going against Brooks being F1, mostly edit and screencaps.  But lately, post season, there are even more things that show that Brooks may not be the F1, including times that Des is off the grid so to speak, Brooks is on it.  How does that equal him being F1 and visiting time.  It has been said that Des is seeing her F1 weekly.  IMO from watching their twitter accts, that is hard to believe since they don't seem to be off the grid at the same time.  Just a lot of things really seem "off" when it comes to Brooks being F1 and I'd like to think I am looking at all 3 guys objectively with regards to the post season sightings, edit, on/off the grid at the time that Des is, but when it comes down to it, it is looking more and more that Brooks just isn't the F1.

The only comment I have is Brooks had a few tweets in May and silent since, Chris has just now started tweeted and I don't think Drew has at all however Drew did put some pictures on IG as did Chris and Brooks did initially in May but quiet since.
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Post by Ariela Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:17 pm

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sparkler wrote:She goes and finds Brooks, tells him she loves him, blah, blah.  Then second proposal, SHE proposes marriage to him,  He says yes  they cry, twirls around. The end.  


I wanted to comment on the line above without quoting the whole paragraph- sorry I am not too tech savvy!!

Anyway, I love all the scenarios and imagination that you all have and am enjoying the options of "a book missing the pages" as someone mentioned....however, I hope for the sake of Des that whatever happens, that she did not end up proposing to Brooks.....I have been seeing her relationship with Brooks as one sided throughout this show, and this would really confirm that. I fear that if she proposed to him that this would set the stage for their relationship going forward...she as the pursuer and he as the chased. This gives him a lot of latitude in behavior (not saying that he is no honorable) but I think Des would be plagued with doubts in the future..."does he really love me?" or did he bow to pressure under the show, or as Des being the lead, and Brooks being one of the many?

I could not agree with you MORE!!  I think that the "one-sided" issue is what irritates me the most about Des' relationship with Brooks.  The storyline is made to make Des a desperate, clingy, needy girl when I originally believed that she was a strong and independent woman.  I totally agree with you, and I cannot seem to come up with any moments where Brooks was the organizer, pursuer, chaser, creative mind, etc.    In fact, DES was the one to lead the HTD with her sheet of necessary reminders for Brooks of all of their past moments -- to bad that HE didn't do that for HER!!

I realize that much of this is producer driven, but I wonder what ever Des did to them to cause them to make her look so bad?!?!?

I guess everyone watches with their own filters because I saw the exact opposite.  I saw Brooks as someone who is falling in love and ready to take the next step.  When he was asked why Des, he did not give the normal canned responses like: she is amazing and nice girl, we get each other, we are so alike,  blah blah blah.  He totally had specifics things about Des that he like/love.

Ummm, I didn't see that. I still recall the painful dinner chat they had about the HTD, and her running, and Brooks "walking". It's like he was telling himself it's ok, go on, but where was his heart?  Brooks knows Des  better than the other guys, because he was the first one with the date, and she opens up to him more readily. She looks at him differently than at the others, so SHE is def in love/lust with him, but He? not sure.

^^ That is not correct. Brooks said he was jogging and Des said she was "going into a run" which is not that far apart. People forget that Des only told CH she was already and the finish line. Brooks has no idea.
My point is that they were NOT on the same page, whether it be jogging, running, speeding, bicycling...lol
There are some things that producers cannot make believe. I watched Brooks' face during the cloud date dinner. Let me tell you, he was one petrified puppy. Not that I care one way or another, because out of the remaining 3, she is hung up on Brooks, so the others will go home, regardless whether Brooks proposes or not.

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Post by Rolly Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:44 pm

Totally disagree about Brooks being a "petrified puppy" during the cloud dinner. He was the one wanting to find out where they both stood and trying to find verbs/adjectives to describe their relationship (Des wanted it too but it seems that Brooks initiated the discussion). When Des said she was going into a run and Brooks said jogging he seemed pleasantly surprised that she was running (he said "I like it" that she was running) even though he said he wasn't quite there yet. He seemed apprehensive about bringing someone home to meet his family because it was a big deal and he doesn't do it often. Before the fireworks he said he would love for her to meet his family which I don't think he does casually. In the clouds she said she wanted to see if their relationship could work and he said "it is working". It's very unusual for two people to move at exactlly the same pace (same page) and I think it's just fine that his pace is slower than Chris and Drew's. If you look at where he was at at the end of the HTD I'd say the guy is definately into a run and he didn't want her to go. Amazing how people can see the same episode and come away with such different views of what happened.
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Post by Rolly Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:51 pm

I would be shocked if Des proposes to Brooks. Per her twitter page re:dating she posts 7/11/13

"love and be yourself, know your worth, let him pursue, don't be desparate, confidence is key"

If there is a proposal I think Brooks proposes not Des.
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Post by Guest Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:55 pm

I also have to add that Brooks has actually been the initiator in most of their kisses. Yes, Desiree kind of stares longingly at him with lovey-dovey eyes to tell him to kiss her, but he always does. First date, post-dodgeball, during fireworks, twice in canoe, at front door before entering to meet family and saying goodbye after HTD were all Brooks leaning in to kiss her.

And I admit to being totally embarrassed that I know that, but it is true.

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Post by Ariela Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:03 pm

Rolly wrote:Totally disagree about Brooks being a "petrified puppy" during the cloud dinner. He was the one wanting to find out where they both stood and trying to find verbs/adjectives to describe their relationship (Des wanted it too but it seems that Brooks initiated the discussion). When Des said she was going into a run and Brooks said jogging he seemed pleasantly surprised  that she was running (he said "I like it" that she was running) even though he said he wasn't quite there yet. He seemed apprehensive about bringing someone home to meet his family because it was a big deal and he doesn't do it often. Before the fireworks he said he would love for her to meet his family which I don't think he does casually. In the clouds she said she wanted to see if their relationship could work and he said "it is working". It's very unusual for two people to move at exactlly the same pace (same page) and I think it's just fine that his pace is slower than Chris and Drew's. If you look at where he was at at the end of the HTD I'd say the guy is definately into a run and he didn't want her to go. Amazing how people can see the same episode and come away with such different views of what happened.

I can only tell you what I felt watching them, listening to his VOs etc. Des was pursuing him at that time....
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Post by Rolly Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:12 pm

Ariela, I understand that you saw something different from this episode but I don't see my views being any less valid than yours regardless of whether or not we have a horse in the race. We just see it differently and I'm so glad we can be respectful of each other even though we have different opinions.
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Post by Pattycake92 Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:19 pm

Des has said she is in love with Brooks and wants a proposal from him. What's so difficult to understand about that?
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Post by Guest Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:43 pm

Pattycake92 wrote:Des has said she is in love with Brooks and wants a proposal from him. What's so difficult to understand about that?  

That is still a possibility. Not everyone thinks that will happen and that is okay. If TPTB really mean that it doesn't make sense and is out of left field, her choosing Brooks does not back that up. So either she chooses Brooks, or they were telling the truth about that. I don't believe both to be true.

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Post by Guest Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:32 pm

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Pattycake92 wrote:Des has said she is in love with Brooks and wants a proposal from him. What's so difficult to understand about that?  

That is still a possibility. Not everyone thinks that will happen and that is okay. If TPTB really mean that it doesn't make sense and is out of left field, her choosing Brooks does not back that up. So either she chooses Brooks, or they were telling the truth about that. I don't believe both to be true.

I agree 

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Post by Guest Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:34 pm

I'm new, but I just wanted to add that Brooks leaving and Brooks and Des having problems is out of left field and doesn't make sense. Maybe it's not referring to who she picks in the end.

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Post by agentcurls Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:58 pm

SusieQ wrote:I'm new, but I just wanted to add that Brooks leaving and Brooks and Des having problems is out of left field and doesn't make sense. Maybe it's not referring to who she picks in the end.

That is what I believe as well.

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