Re: Episode 10 (Finale Part 1) - 7/29 - Bachelorette 9 - Thread #1

[Cecilia]

Saw Chris H this morning on GMA. He was a little too giddy about last night, saying "wasn't that great"? Who takes  such pleasure in seeing other people hurting?

He also said the show was "beautiful." Huh? I'm still traumatized by last night's episode! Not beautiful.

[Guest]

Personally I cannot see a believable scenario where Des leaves with any one of these guys.  

That about sums it up. Poor Desiree.

[nd4reality]

Saw Chris H this morning on GMA. He was a little too giddy about last night, saying "wasn't that great"? Who takes  such pleasure in seeing other people hurting?

Apprently CH.

And the other producers as well.

[BarbB222]

Personally I cannot see a believable scenario where Des leaves with any one of these guys.  

That about sums it up.  Poor Desiree.

Sometimes payback's a bitch. But it does seem so unreal that the guys love Des as much as Des love Brooks. Des was hurt last night as much as she will hurt those other 2 guys.

[Pattycake92]

I am not understanding why people say there is producer manipulation in this case...I just don't think so. They want a fairytale ending and since there was nothing wrong with Brooks (ie he wasn't a jerk or anything)...it seems this was all Brooks. He just wasn't that into her. I saw a pic of his ex girlfriend...she was really pretty. So it's not like Brooks can't get other girls. I mean Des is pretty too but I can see why sometimes a guy may not just fall in love with her.... I mean if someone like Sean (who isn't that great) couldn't fall in love with Des I can see why Brooks didn't either.

Have you watched this show long? We all know the lengths MF will go to get what he wants. Des only made one mistake, telling tptb too soon that she was in love with Brooks with several guys and weeks left.  They need a story so they start working on the guy she loves.. Happens almost every season.

YUP! And the more boring the season is, the more they will manipulate. Drama=Ratings=Them keeping their jobs.

[agentcurls]

So, last night we didn't see the crying Brooks close up.....maybe we will never see it.....or maybe it's yet to come?

[happy2bme]

Posted in the wrong section, but I thought last night Brooks was edited all over the place. First with his mom and sister and second with CH. Anyone else agree? Too many mixed messages.

[cfck2222]

Saw Chris H this morning on GMA. He was a little too giddy about last night, saying "wasn't that great"? Who takes such pleasure in seeing other people hurting?

Mike "Booyah!" Fleiss, that's who! (I don't know if you remember this, but right after the Jillian/Ed season was over, US Weekly ran a cover story about Ed's dalliances with other women while the season was shooting and after it was done shooting and he was engaged to Jillian. Fleiss's reaction when asked about was "Booyah!").

This show was an especially horrible track record for how it treats its female leads. The show exploits the dynamic of women being most judgmental of each other in presenting the story of its female lead to its (primarily female) audience, and always has a major storyline during the Bach'ette season where you are led to question the female lead's judgment, worth, whatever. It happens even and perhaps especially to respectable, professional women who agree to be leads on this show. Now it's happened to Desiree, and there's no doubt the judgment is going to rain down hard and fast on her no matter what the outcome of the season was. Now, if the show believes in the lead/F1 relationship, it's possible there will be an attempt at redemption in next week's episode. I don't know if that will happen, because the show has done everything in its power to encourage the audience to question Desiree's eventual decision. The way Fleiss and his minions portray and treat their female leads is reprehensible.

I feel for Desiree and all 3 guys. Drew and Chris were exploited by the bubble just like Brooks was. They fell in "bubble" love, and I hope/think they recovered quickly enough once outside the bubble. If either of them agrees to become the next Bachelor, they've asked for whatever comes, though Fleiss generally treats his male leads better than his female leads. Brooks made a startling and kind of admirable attempt to leave the bubble and try to figure out what was really going on, but likely only because the producers were pushing the right buttons and playing on his every doubt. If he's F1, hopefully he & Desiree will be able to build something in the real world. But he has some serious 'splaining to do to her and those buttons the producers pushed are things he may need to work on. Desiree just wanted to have her obvious F1 but the producers were hellbent on a storyline to spice things up and made da*n sure she had no off-camera time with Brooks. They always make the leads with an obvious F1 pay the price, and have no problem undermining those relationships for the sake of their social experiments.

For Desiree and her F1, if they are solid, their only real chance at redemption will be to build something real outside the show, last a respectable amount of time in the real world (away from the exploitative, manipulative environment inside the Bach/ette bubble), and selectively grant some tabloid exclusives to reshape the public view of their relationship.

[BarbB222]

Saw Chris H this morning on GMA. He was a little too giddy about last night, saying "wasn't that great"? Who takes  such pleasure in seeing other people hurting?

Mike "Booyah!" Fleiss, that's who! (I don't know if you remember this, but right after the Jillian/Ed season was over, US Weekly ran a cover story about Ed's dalliances with other women while the season was shooting and after it was done shooting and he was engaged to Jillian. Fleiss's reaction when asked about was "Booyah!").

This show was an especially horrible track record for how it treats its female leads. The show exploits the dynamic of women being most judgmental of each other in presenting the story of its female lead to its (primarily female) audience, and always has a major storyline during the Bach'ette season where you are led to question the female lead's judgment, worth, whatever. It happens even and perhaps especially to respectable, professional women who agree to be leads on this show. Now it's happened to Desiree, and there's no doubt the judgment is going to rain down hard and fast on her no matter what the outcome of the season was. Now, if the show believes in the lead/F1 relationship, it's possible there will be an attempt at redemption in next week's episode. I don't know if that will happen, because the show has done everything in its power to encourage the audience to question Desiree's eventual decision.

I feel for Desiree and all 3 guys. Drew and Chris were exploited by the bubble just like Brooks was. They fell in "bubble" love, and I hope/think they recovered quickly enough once outside the bubble. If either of them agrees to become the next Bachelor, they've asked for whatever comes, though Fleiss generally treats his male leads better than his female leads. Brooks made a startling and kind of admirable attempt to leave the bubble and try to figure out what was really going on, but likely only because the producers were pushing the right buttons and playing on his every doubt. If he's F1, hopefully he & Desiree will be able to build something in the real world. But he has some serious 'splaining to do to her and those buttons the producers pushed are things he may need to work on. Desiree just wanted to have her obvious F1 but the producers were hellbent on a storyline to spice things up and made da*n sure she had no off-camera time with Brooks. They always make the leads with an obvious F1 pay the price, and have no problem undermining those relationships for the sake of their social experiments.

For Desiree and her F1, if they are solid, their only real chance at redemption will be to build something real outside the show, last a respectable amount of time in the real world (away from the exploitative, manipulative environment inside the Bach/ette bubble), and selectively grant some tabloid exclusives to reshape the public view of their relationship.

Another interesting insight. I really want to fall back in love with Bres but I'm waining. But I did forget about the manipulation last night . Everything seems too convenient how it went down. I'm trying to suppress the cynic in me because I do love this couple together albeit a little less after last night.

[Kashathediva]

Saw Chris H this morning on GMA. He was a little too giddy about last night, saying "wasn't that great"? Who takes  such pleasure in seeing other people hurting?

Apprently CH.

And the other producers as well.

They(the powers to be) have said forever and a day, it's not all about the romance. It's about the experiment, the journey of how they to get to where they end up. The more crazy the better. If it ends up in a twirl great but you can twirl by spinning someone them your arms and you can twirl by putting them through a human cuisinart, too.

[Cecilia]

Saw Chris H this morning on GMA. He was a little too giddy about last night, saying "wasn't that great"? Who takes  such pleasure in seeing other people hurting?

Mike "Booyah!" Fleiss, that's who! (I don't know if you remember this, but right after the Jillian/Ed season was over, US Weekly ran a cover story about Ed's dalliances with other women while the season was shooting and after it was done shooting and he was engaged to Jillian. Fleiss's reaction when asked about was "Booyah!").

This show was an especially horrible track record for how it treats its female leads. The show exploits the dynamic of women being most judgmental of each other in presenting the story of its female lead to its (primarily female) audience, and always has a major storyline during the Bach'ette season where you are led to question the female lead's judgment, worth, whatever. It happens even and perhaps especially to respectable, professional women who agree to be leads on this show. Now it's happened to Desiree, and there's no doubt the judgment is going to rain down hard and fast on her no matter what the outcome of the season was. Now, if the show believes in the lead/F1 relationship, it's possible there will be an attempt at redemption in next week's episode. I don't know if that will happen, because the show has done everything in its power to encourage the audience to question Desiree's eventual decision. The way Fleiss and his minions portray and treat their female leads is reprehensible.

I feel for Desiree and all 3 guys. Drew and Chris were exploited by the bubble just like Brooks was. They fell in "bubble" love, and I hope/think they recovered quickly enough once outside the bubble. If either of them agrees to become the next Bachelor, they've asked for whatever comes, though Fleiss generally treats his male leads better than his female leads. Brooks made a startling and kind of admirable attempt to leave the bubble and try to figure out what was really going on, but likely only because the producers were pushing the right buttons and playing on his every doubt. If he's F1, hopefully he & Desiree will be able to build something in the real world. But he has some serious 'splaining to do to her and those buttons the producers pushed are things he may need to work on. Desiree just wanted to have her obvious F1 but the producers were hellbent on a storyline to spice things up and made da*n sure she had no off-camera time with Brooks. They always make the leads with an obvious F1 pay the price, and have no problem undermining those relationships for the sake of their social experiments.

For Desiree and her F1, if they are solid, their only real chance at redemption will be to build something real outside the show, last a respectable amount of time in the real world (away from the exploitative, manipulative environment inside the Bach/ette bubble), and selectively grant some tabloid exclusives to reshape the public view of their relationship.

Great post.

[SouthernMomOf4]

Producers can do whatever it is they do but the reality is the guy said he knows what it is to be in love and this isn't it. He said it in a well thought out, calm fashion.

There have been plenty of red flags throughout the season as well. His body language, the conversation where she is "running" and he "isn't there".

Brooks is simply NOT as into Desiree and Desiree is into Brooks. It is what it is no matter how TPTB or fans want to spin it. The guy likes her, he respects her, but he doesn't love her.

IMO ring or no ring, rehab or no rehab, proposal or no proposal, this is not then next Trista and Ryan season. Even if by some producer manipulation Brooks proposes my bet is by the time we are looking at a new bachelor this relationship is a bad memory.

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