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Post by anders Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:58 am

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Plus she said she wanted to run away with him to Salt Lake City or something to that effect. In other words she was done with the other guys at that point. She told Bentley that she wished the end was "tomorrow". Thats pretty huge IMO. So basically they were all sitting there and wasting their time which is in my book worse than what we have accused other leads of stringing along the F2 when in actual fact they were already in love with the F1. She was planning to string along at least 12 other guys at this point !

The "run away with Salt Lake City" was edited & spliced together -she didn't actually say those words. And I'm pretty sure that a good portion of what we saw last night was also spliced/edited together. Haven't sat through and listened for the cuts yet, but I will.

Personally, I still don't think Ashley was nearly as enamored of Bentley as they are making it sound like. It was very creative editing, including the conversation she had with CH. There was visual and audio differences throughout that whole thing. Did she care about Bentley or like him? Sure. Attracted to him? Sure. Did she love him at that point? Without listening to the audio closely, I'm still 80% certain that comment was about a different guy.

Actually, it was Bentley who said "I wish the end was tomorrow" she said something like "me too". He also asked if he could call her. We saw Ashley say "she saw the end, and she saw Bentley there" that wasn't spliced, we saw this. We saw her say completely devastated by his departure. We saw and heard a lot of things that pointed to Bentley at least being in the F2 - if not the one.


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Post by nd4reality Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:19 am

Max64 wrote:
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Oh why oh why can't they give us an HONEST show for a change?

Good Post I agree

I wish they'd just go the honest route...but after the Jason fiasco and the ratings jump, I would guess we're in for worse and worse (obviously.)

Believe it or not, I honestly think he is :Nod: The story is Ashley had fears and insecurities of being the Bachelorette, are the guys disappointed it her and not Emily, that happened with Bentley. He has left, but now her fear is does she have time to heal to be able to love again, that's Ashley's conflict. She has her date with JP, who is well aware of how Bentley hurt her. They have a conversation about, taking a leap of faith, falling in love, getting hurt and having to move on, "then you meet a great girl". There are VO's of JP saying, "any doubts I had are gone", "Fiji would be the perfect ending to my lovestory" "My only fear is getting hurt again". JP's conflict will be, will Ashley fall in love with him despite having Bentley and Ryan return to woo her away, or will he get hurt again.

Max I agree with your post. However the bolded was not said by JP but by Ryan. JPs VO said something about 'Finding love in the blue waters of Figi'. Not sure if it makes a difference to the overall message in your post but I thought I'd just point it out .


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Post by Bloomers Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:59 am

This insecurity theme was played out by Jillian, and we saw how that worked out. :hmmm:
Also, in retrospect we saw how accepting a second choice worked out for DeAnna as well. :Frown:
We got a weird, wonky edit with Brad, and this relationship at the ATFRC looked rather wobbly....
Now, here we are going into the 4th episode, and we have basically "seen" one of our spoiled F4. Ashley's theme in spades is "insecurity." I have to wonder if either the relationship has a poor foundation, or the entire season is about her F1 - to the exclusion of the others in the F4.
If so, that will be the first time that has happened in the history of the franchise. Usually, the F1 is the one that is more hidden.


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Post by Guest Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:35 pm

Bloomers wrote:This insecurity theme was played out by Jillian, and we saw how that worked out. hmmm
Also, in retrospect we saw how accepting a second choice worked out for DeAnna as well. :Frown:
We got a weird, wonky edit with Brad, and this relationship at the ATFRC looked rather wobbly....
Now, here we are going into the 4th episode, and we have basically "seen" one of our spoiled F4. Ashley's theme in spades is "insecurity." I have to wonder if either the relationship has a poor foundation, or the entire season is about her F1 - to the exclusion of the others in the F4.
If so, that will be the first time that has happened in the history of the franchise. Usually, the F1 is the one that is more hidden.

Because they are keeping Bentley in the drama I think they're going to have to showcase her F1 more than they have ever done in the past.

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Post by anders Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:07 pm

I just went back to RSs spoilers and realized Lucas is in the F6 - what?? Lucas?? this season is so weird - it's like who the fuck is Lucas and he's in the F6....?? but I guess that goes along with who the fuck is Ben F, Dino and Ames and they're all in the F4.


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Post by CarrieA Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:42 pm

anders wrote:I just went back to RSs spoilers and realized Lucas is in the F6 - what?? Lucas?? this season is so weird - it's like who the fuck is Lucas and he's in the F6....?? but I guess that goes along with who the fuck is Ben F, Dino and Ames and they're all in the F4.

Seriously! It's ridiculous that we know basically nothing about 3 of the F4. How are they supposed to explain who Lucas is 6 episodes in.."Oh by the way there's this guy Lucas, he doesn't go much farther but we're going to finally give him his own date and waste your time"
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Post by pavalygurl Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:47 pm

CarrieAlexander wrote:
anders wrote:I just went back to RSs spoilers and realized Lucas is in the F6 - what?? Lucas?? this season is so weird - it's like who the fuck is Lucas and he's in the F6....?? but I guess that goes along with who the fuck is Ben F, Dino and Ames and they're all in the F4.

Seriously! It's ridiculous that we know basically nothing about 3 of the F4. How are they supposed to explain who Lucas is 6 episodes in.."Oh by the way there's this guy Lucas, he doesn't go much farther but we're going to finally give him his own date and waste your time"

I know. I have watched less than half of the seasons, but from what I have seen, this season bafflles me.

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Post by Guest Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:21 pm

anders wrote:I just went back to RSs spoilers and realized Lucas is in the F6 - what?? Lucas?? this season is so weird - it's like who the fuck is Lucas and he's in the F6....?? but I guess that goes along with who the fuck is Ben F, Dino and Ames and they're all in the F4.
My sentiments, exactly. :yes:

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Post by dee Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:26 pm

Gina wrote:
anders wrote:I just went back to RSs spoilers and realized Lucas is in the F6 - what?? Lucas?? this season is so weird - it's like who the fuck is Lucas and he's in the F6....?? but I guess that goes along with who the fuck is Ben F, Dino and Ames and they're all in the F4.
My sentiments, exactly. :yes:
LOL he's like the phantom from Ali's season, but he actually gets a date (and a rose), and gets to make out with Ashley. I figure he's another one of those "a matter of time" guys. Blake and Mickey probably sealed their own fates with them throwing Ryan under the bus. Although, Lucas does do the same next episode. But I get the feeling, Blake and Mickey kept on pushing Ashley.
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Post by Guest Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:27 pm

In the past Molly and Chantal got over night dates == Final 2
Chris L and Trista got sick dates == FINAL 2
Ryan spoke to Trista before charlie as shown on tv at meet and greet on 1 on 1 time
Roberto spoke to Ali before chris L as shown on tv at M/G on 1 on 1 time
Ben Spoke to Ashley before JP as shown on tv at M/G on 1 on 1 time

Just somethings i notice so this seems to be going like last season all topsy turby.

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Post by Starshine_16 Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:33 pm

Trista was F3 in Alex's Bachelor season.


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Post by Love_Me Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:33 pm

Starshine_16 wrote:Trista was F3 in Alex's Bachelor season.


I thought Trista was the F2?
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