Episode 6 - 6/27 - Discussion - Spoilers

Just so we are all straight here. Ryan comes back BETWEEN Fantasy Date and FRC?

Alexxxx wrote:

Kelad9 wrote:

Alexxxx wrote:Wow. Just getting logged on after watching the show. This season is such a bust. Whoever the F1 is (or was) knows now that they only got chosen because The Bent One dumped his lady love in Hong Kong. Truly lame.

Actually I thought that Ashley was the one doing the dumping. She played him nicely getting him to relax and giving him a chance to come clean by pretending she didn't know what he'd said and he didn't even give her the courtesy of that. I still think TPTB showed her his PI's and VOs when he left. JMO.

Bentley put the period on the conversation. Ashley was still hung up on the dot dot dot. Listen again.

She'd have took him back in a heartbeat!

Alexxxx wrote:

Kelad9 wrote:

Alexxxx wrote:Wow. Just getting logged on after watching the show. This season is such a bust. Whoever the F1 is (or was) knows now that they only got chosen because The Bent One dumped his lady love in Hong Kong. Truly lame.

Actually I thought that Ashley was the one doing the dumping. She played him nicely getting him to relax and giving him a chance to come clean by pretending she didn't know what he'd said and he didn't even give her the courtesy of that. I still think TPTB showed her his PI's and VOs when he left. JMO.

Bentley put the period on the conversation. Ashley was still hung up on the dot dot dot. Listen again.

My take was there was a reason for the edit to leave in CH telling Ashley not to waver and to get the details.. I think Ashley wanted to find out why Bentley would leave in the dot dot dot. he didn't have the courtesy to tell her. Her BL showed she was pissed before seeing Bentley IMO. I thought she expressed herself very well in the VO's about bentley thou maybe she could have done without the bleep thingy. haha but just makes her seem more real.
I think the show set it up because they didn't want Bentley to think he'd played them as they ultimately ended up playing him IMO. I bet he was expecting a week in HK and might not have gotten that much time there in the end due to ashley asking why he was coming to HK.. she came straight out and asked if it was because he wanted a vacay.

Kelad9 wrote:

JBF wrote:

Kelad9 wrote:She also said in a preview that she regretted sending that person home and that she missed him. Don't think she's talking about JP or Ben F... :(

That HAS to be Ryan.

I am wondering if SHE brings him back like Bentley for "closure" and JP has trouble with it. The lovey dovey couple have their first fight and that casts DOUBT about JP proposing to her...

We don't know which bachelor has his hand in the pocket... if JP, then that adds SUSPENSE...

Bottom line: Ben is Find Waldo through all this, unless he's Mister Hand-in-pocket. If he is a surprise Final One, he is a Big Surprise.

It all tastes like: First half of season is Bentley versus JP. JP handles her news of Bentley well. Then it is Ryan versus JP. There is trouble on the Fantasy Date... because he loses PATIENCE. She starts getting all of those La De Da "insecurities" back...

I'm a JP fan so it's kind of hard for me to have watch the lucas date tonight as something that could possibly be overlooked. Can someone tell me why Ashley would be saying that LUcas makes her feel like a woman in a VO and didn't she say something similiar in an interview about her F1? Also if JP is final one, why would she still be sooo worried about telling the other guys at the cocktail party? Also at end of the RC she's looking at Lucas. Just strange if JP really does have it in the bag.

If she had the same feelings for Lucas she had for JP, then she would have told Lucas on his 1 on 1 about Bentley coming back, like she told JP. She didn't. Lucas is just one of the matter of time guys. And I thought she said after telling JP about Bentley and the fact he took it so well, made her not as worried to tell the other guys at the RC.

Well, she told him 'if you're watching this Bentley"...to F off, twice. I think she's over him and SHE definitely ended it. And she callled him a really bad name with Jimmy Kimmel on the preview for tonight's show. Really bad name. lol, but he is one.

Alexxxx wrote:

Kelad9 wrote:

Alexxxx wrote:Wow. Just getting logged on after watching the show. This season is such a bust. Whoever the F1 is (or was) knows now that they only got chosen because The Bent One dumped his lady love in Hong Kong. Truly lame.

Actually I thought that Ashley was the one doing the dumping. She played him nicely getting him to relax and giving him a chance to come clean by pretending she didn't know what he'd said and he didn't even give her the courtesy of that. I still think TPTB showed her his PI's and VOs when he left. JMO.

Bentley put the period on the conversation. Ashley was still hung up on the dot dot dot. Listen again.

I did like how she said" So why didn't you just call me? Did you want the free vacay?"

Kelad9 wrote:

DMBFan wrote:Okay, I am recording the west coast feed on the computer so will watch and type up VO & PI's tonight while I watch. I'll get it done tonight, even though work tomorrow will be interesting. Priorities!

pay attention to the vo's about lucas.... something she said matched up to what she said in an interview before... makes me wonder if something happens there.

Are we sure she says his name, and is anything sounding spliced together at that point maybe his name?

reason wrote:Analyze suit fabrics you all this is getting interesting.

Don't forget -- they can change colors.
Jillian's season we spent HOURS looking for that dumb brown suit -- that no one was wearing!! Or was it blue? I'm getting confused all over again.

Gina wrote:

mnmhughes wrote:Don't forget all the crying Jillian did on her FRC day. Those who have been comparing Ashley to Jillian may have it exactly right -- down to her FRC day. Except Ash picks a winner!

Right how can I forget the hot mess Jillian was after Reid appeared and she took forever to decide what to do.

I have a far out idea. Constantine bows out at F3, after the FD..he's not feeling it and wants to go home. Then she has Ben and JP's FD's, but Ryan comes back to confuse her. "go with my head or my heart". So she sends Ryan home. She's a mess, F3 left and she hurt Ryan and he left. I think she really liked Ryan, as more of a friend and good guy to her.

Then at the FRC, Ben takes himself out, so that's 3 guys are gone, two by their own hand and one by a confused Ashley. So it's "unfair" and she's crying...but all this happens before the FRC with JP, who was always the F1 anyway, so all the other smoke blowing up our butts was to create all the drama and then the happy proposal, twirl, I love you, and cut! Done. good ending. That's all we care about anyway. Well, I hope that's how it goes down.

Hah ha ~ I love the way you think Gina!!

emusha wrote:

Kelad9 wrote:

DMBFan wrote:Okay, I am recording the west coast feed on the computer so will watch and type up VO & PI's tonight while I watch. I'll get it done tonight, even though work tomorrow will be interesting. Priorities!

pay attention to the vo's about lucas.... something she said matched up to what she said in an interview before... makes me wonder if something happens there.

Are we sure she says his name, and is anything sounding spliced together at that point maybe his name?

she didn't say his name.. and I watch with the CC so im not sure if it wasn't spliced or what... however the cc did say one of them called the other sweetheart and at the time I thought that might have been ashley but now I'm not sure. can someone rewatch and see who said that?

Gina wrote:Well, she told him 'if you're watching this Bentley"...to F off, twice. I think she's over him and SHE definitely ended it. And she callled him a really bad name with Jimmy Kimmel on the preview for tonight's show. Really bad name. lol, but he is one.

It's so obvious that the whole Bentley thing was made up and overblown.

Wow that preview was intense.

When she is wearing the green dress and gets up and leaves JP it has to be next week on their group date and she is getting up to go get the rose.... no more cocktail parties left.

She is standing on the beach with JP when she is expressing some doubts.

The guy with his hands in his pockets is def Ben F. I mean have we ever seen JP not wear fitted perfectly tailored trousers.

Why are they still trying to fool us into thinking that Ryan is a contender... I saw their 1 on 1 time tonight... not impressed.

Mickey was talking about Bentley

I expect Ben's date to go amazing next week. He will be JP's competition just seeing the monkey hug alone.

Tonight's date with JP literally made me sweat ... no really it was one of the hottest things I have seen on this show. The part where he was pouring the champagne and she was just watching him was priceless... she's in love... so is he ... I swear I saw him tear up a few times. The reason I am late to the party is because I have been rematching the tram ride scene over and over again.