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Post by LaureanT Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:03 am

Reidiscool wrote:I will preface this by saying in all likelihood the twitters sighting probably are legit. and JP is in LA and Ben's in SF.

I know the vast majority of viewers are normal and not addicted to solving the show! But MF knows we sleuth these kind of things. RS looks at the boards and twitter if they have managed to fool him this year they may just go to this trouble because they don't want him tipped off that anything could be amiss. In previous years Ali, Brad and even babyface were involved in the deception of RS. I cannot dismiss out of hand that Ash/Ben/JP are not doing the same but that's just me!


I totally agree with your post. If Fleiss & Company are trying to fool RS this season, they are really going all out to do it. Fleiss' people fooled RS for Brad's season about the Thanksgiving dinner that Brad had with Chantal & her family. giggling Nothing surprises me anymore. Remember, don't ever count Fleiss out. He has surprised me so many times with his edits. I have learned the hard way.


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Post by ironcat Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:31 am

albean99 wrote:The lady who tweeted about Ben does post pics and has while in SF. I do think it's strange at how many people have tweeted that they've seen Ben but so far not one has taken a pic. I don't know if it means that she's taking part in anything but certainly could be mistaken. A pic would have helped. I would never approach anyone but would probably take a pic if I was far away and could be discreet.

It is convenient that JP was spotted. Has he never heard of disguises? If he really was out in the open about flying in it may be because he's meeting with Fleiss or to tape PI's and not necessarily to see Ashley.

JP didn't need to be in a disguise because technically (like Dino), there is still a chance that he could be eliminated at F3, and then he would just be flying in to LA from NYC on Friday night for the taping of the MTA on Saturday, probably just like Ames did. In fact, him being spotted could only add to the speculation among average unspoiled viewers that he was there for the MTA (although we know otherwise), which would be a win-win for producers.

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Post by Living Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:46 am

ironcat wrote:
albean99 wrote:The lady who tweeted about Ben does post pics and has while in SF. I do think it's strange at how many people have tweeted that they've seen Ben but so far not one has taken a pic. I don't know if it means that she's taking part in anything but certainly could be mistaken. A pic would have helped. I would never approach anyone but would probably take a pic if I was far away and could be discreet.

It is convenient that JP was spotted. Has he never heard of disguises? If he really was out in the open about flying in it may be because he's meeting with Fleiss or to tape PI's and not necessarily to see Ashley.

JP didn't need to be in a disguise because technically (like Dino), there is still a chance that he could be eliminated at F3, and then he would just be flying in to LA from NYC on Friday night for the taping of the MTA on Saturday, probably just like Ames did. In fact, him being spotted could only add to the speculation among average unspoiled viewers that he was there for the MTA (although we know otherwise), which would be a win-win for producers.

Wonder why all the other F1's had to use disguises then......

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Post by Bronwyn Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:49 am

How does the disguise thing work these days with security being the way it is at airports now? I've been wondering that for awhile. How do they manage that?

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Post by gurlbrit Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:57 am

ironcat wrote:
albean99 wrote:The lady who tweeted about Ben does post pics and has while in SF. I do think it's strange at how many people have tweeted that they've seen Ben but so far not one has taken a pic. I don't know if it means that she's taking part in anything but certainly could be mistaken. A pic would have helped. I would never approach anyone but would probably take a pic if I was far away and could be discreet.

It is convenient that JP was spotted. Has he never heard of disguises? If he really was out in the open about flying in it may be because he's meeting with Fleiss or to tape PI's and not necessarily to see Ashley.

JP didn't need to be in a disguise because technically (like Dino), there is still a chance that he could be eliminated at F3, and then he would just be flying in to LA from NYC on Friday night for the taping of the MTA on Saturday, probably just like Ames did. In fact, him being spotted could only add to the speculation among average unspoiled viewers that he was there for the MTA (although we know otherwise), which would be a win-win for producers.

In saying the above, technically Ben F should have been in LA as well, as he could also have been let go at F3. Someone also mentioned about being in disguise, unfortunately TSA would not be at all approving if any of the F3 did not look like their photo ID, so disguises would be out.
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Post by mnmhughes Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:00 am

Bronwyn wrote:How does the disguise thing work these days with security being the way it is at airports now? I've been wondering that for awhile. How do they manage that?

Yeah, that wouldn't work. I'm going to the airport tomorrow, so I'll wear a disguise and let you all know what the TSA agents think. Kidding!!
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Post by Kashathediva Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:03 am

Living wrote:
ironcat wrote:
albean99 wrote:The lady who tweeted about Ben does post pics and has while in SF. I do think it's strange at how many people have tweeted that they've seen Ben but so far not one has taken a pic. I don't know if it means that she's taking part in anything but certainly could be mistaken. A pic would have helped. I would never approach anyone but would probably take a pic if I was far away and could be discreet.

It is convenient that JP was spotted. Has he never heard of disguises? If he really was out in the open about flying in it may be because he's meeting with Fleiss or to tape PI's and not necessarily to see Ashley.

JP didn't need to be in a disguise because technically (like Dino), there is still a chance that he could be eliminated at F3, and then he would just be flying in to LA from NYC on Friday night for the taping of the MTA on Saturday, probably just like Ames did. In fact, him being spotted could only add to the speculation among average unspoiled viewers that he was there for the MTA (although we know otherwise), which would be a win-win for producers.

Wonder why all the other F1's had to use disguises then......

I think the whole idea of "disguises" has been a bit embellished.
However, in this particular case for the typical unspoiled viewer, after Monday's show the F3 were Dino, Ben and JP. So anyone showing up in LA on Friday would tend to make the public believe he was there for the MTN and thus eliminated at F3.
I can't count the times in the past, when we were not positive of who the F3 was, we were waiting for some type of confirmation after the WTN or MTN of who was there for F3 spot. Code words were invented. Anyone remember Snow White(Lisa), Sleeping Beauty(Sadie) and Cinderella(Jen)? How silly we were!
So having JP be easily spotted in LA, as another poster referenced, would only mix things up for the unspoiled.
It would most likely make one believe Ben is the F1, since JP would be "there" for the MTN.



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Post by ironcat Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:17 am

We have to also keep in mind this year the timing is different and MTA and ATFR are taping more or less the same weekend. That doesn't generally happen. Perhaps other times when JP went to the safehouse, he needed to, and did wear disguises. However, this particular time, because of the MTA taping at the same time, it provided cover for him to be there; therefore, no disguise necessary.

And Ben COULD have gone to LA at the same time with the same cover/excuse, but he didn't need to go, unless the producers are really trying to pull off some elaborate ruse, which I don't believe they are.

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Post by noobsleuth Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:15 am

Love_Me wrote:
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Vomo gets a gorgeous description in this piece on Hollywood Life about the upcoming Bachelorette finale.
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With tears running down her cheeks and the Pacific Ocean's waves rolling in the background, Ashley jumps into her fiance's arms and says, 'YES!'

saw the previews of the Bachelorette and said out loud "I WAS THERE!" I miss Vomo everyday. Was it Wise that was giving Ashley the boat ride??? Looked like him.


I wonder what boat ride they are talking about. I just checked and the captain of the Belmare is named Neal.
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Post by BlondieGal Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:23 am

Kashathediva wrote:

I can't count the times in the past, when we were not positive of who the F3 was, we were waiting for some type of confirmation after the WTN or MTN of who was there for F3 spot. Code words were invented. Anyone remember Snow White(Lisa), Sleeping Beauty(Sadie) and Cinderella(Jen)? How silly we were!

Those were the good ole days, Kasha! celebrate


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Post by Guest Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:24 am

Blondiegal 2 weeks to go and your trusted source has not come out yet??

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Post by BlondieGal Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:30 am

reason wrote:Blondiegal 2 weeks to go and your trusted source has not come out yet??

I think that I like the return of the sleuthing better. :computersmile:

Nope, no word.


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