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Post by dw_a_mom Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:27 pm

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It's difficult when you work with your friends - things that should just be professional become personal and feelings get involved. Cody also unfollowed Brono and Weslie who are kind and lovely people and who still seems to be on good terms with Jef, so if something went down, it appears that Brono and Weslie were on Jef's side. And I don't know where the CEO, Ken, is in all of this but he doesn't seem to be very good at his job.

Cody was the one with the burning desire to build wells. Jef had the $$. Brono is a photographer and designed the bottle. Weslie wrote a blog. It is certianly conceivable that when Ken took over as CEO and started to run the operation as a real company with a profit/loss statement and a maketing plan that didnt involve coeds and a party bus, the company could no longer justify their salaries and expenses. Happens all the time when mamagement changes. If the current website is indicative of new management, they have refined their message .... at least they now define their "biodegradable" bottles and note that a donation directly to charity does more good than buying PW in plastic bottles. But if you are going to buy bottled water ... buy the pretty bottle that contributes a few cents to dig wells. duh

I have to get out of this thread. I cant stand this guy and shouldnt make comments :puke:

Well, I liked Jef during the show and hold no grudges towards him, but those are all realistic observations, and I'm not noticing any bias in them. Business is business.



Just give me something that looks like a real love story to help me escape into my own version of fantasy for a while. And maybe against the odds one of those stories will actually survive real life. Nothing wrong with a little hope, right?
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Post by dw_a_mom Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:59 pm

JenTen1585 wrote:Jef, for 2 years prior to going on the Bachelorette, set up and ran the company as CEO. During that time they got the company going, got distributorship agreements with grocery stores in Utah, Whole Foods, Marriott, and other companies in Utah, bought the Bus, leased out a beautiful space and had a growing roster of employees. Through Jef's exposure on the show the brand got name recognition, followers, and a lot of awareness was brought to the world water crisis. I think the boy did good. Since the Bachelorette, Jef has not been running the day to day of the company but was still involved in promoting it and I think that Cody seems focused on retail sales rather than water sales because those items increased due to Jef's popularity. Since Ken was hired to actually run the company, I see no new water distributorships except for the baby grocery store in CLT that Jef set up, a shrinking list of employees and downsizing in building and space. Maybe that's all part of the business plan, but honestly I think Jef did a good job as CEO and did his job in bringing awareness to People Water, and now has left either due to a fight, due to lack of interest anymore, or due to just having other opportunities to pursue ... I don't know. I have no idea what made him leave, but as I said before, I have no reason to lay the blame solely on his shoulders for the split. I have to defend his business practices, because I honestly believe he did a great job building a company and should be given some credit for it!

Also reasonable observations, but it really isn't unusual for someone who is good at getting a spark going, to be horribly bad at running something long term. They are very different skills. At some point, you have to stop throwing money at expansion and figure out how to earn a sustainable profit.


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Post by mare2 Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:33 pm

Why is Jef getting harassed on Twitter? What happened?

eta: Never mind, figured it out. People can be nuts! hmmm

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Post by Guest Sun Apr 28, 2013 7:27 pm

mare2 wrote:Why is Jef getting harassed on Twitter? What happened?

eta: Never mind, figured it out. People can be nuts! hmmm

So what happened?? All I can figure out is that something happened to this chick CaryAnna, a college girl, and all of her friends are hammering away at Jef on twitter??

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Post by MVMom39forever Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:30 pm

For someone who never graduated from college, he sure spends a lot of time chasing college girls.
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Post by atem Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:09 pm

That's why I think he's perfect to be the next Bachelor. The college girls won't care if he stays with his Final 1 or not!


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Post by MVMom39forever Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:45 am

atem wrote:That's why I think he's perfect to be the next Bachelor. The college girls won't care if he stays with his Final 1 or not!

No thank you! Jef sucked me in once but not again. "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."

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Post by Amberish Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:16 am

atem wrote:That's why I think he's perfect to be the next Bachelor. The college girls won't care if he stays with his Final 1 or not!

Jef Holm as the Bachelor would be the second coming of Jake Pavelka ... :vomit: ... except, Jake has a hot body and Jef's only notable physical attribute is small feet.

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Post by mare2 Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:30 am

It sounds like had an altercation with idiot sorority girls at a house party and they exchanged words. He may have commented on someone's weight and called someone a bitch? I don't know, it's a wonder some of them even made it to college. They sound like airheads.

But it needs to be said, I'm not sure how Jef hasn't learned that 21 yr old idiot airheads = no good. He keeps going back!

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Post by Kashathediva Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:24 am

There is absolutely nothing good I could say about this choice of TB. Perhaps it would bring in a tsunami of high school and college age viewers.
It would free up my Monday nights--so I guess something good could come of it.
There is a lot to be said for responsibility, accountability and making good decisions. This would be a good course for him to enroll.



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Post by skitts Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:29 am

Oh yeah....peace signs and skate boards and they can recast Em for a third time! Think she'll make to F4? Suspect
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Post by atem Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:10 pm

Amberish wrote:
atem wrote:That's why I think he's perfect to be the next Bachelor. The college girls won't care if he stays with his Final 1 or not!

Jef Holm as the Bachelor would be the second coming of Jake Pavelka ... :vomit: ... except, Jake has a hot body and Jef's only notable physical attribute is small feet.

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rotfl I don't get the big deal over him myself, but it would sure have me not watching. He represents Bach Nation perfectly to me. Plus, it seems like younger people just view dating as a series of hook ups.

Kashathediva wrote:There is absolutely nothing good I could say about this choice of TB. Perhaps it would bring in a tsunami of high school and college age viewers.
It would free up my Monday nights--so I guess something good could come of it.
There is a lot to be said for responsibility, accountability and making good decisions. This would be a good course for him to enroll.

Oh, I am not a fan of Jef or Arie. I just think both are a perfect fit for the show.


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