Re: Episode 5 - 6/20 - Discussion - Thread #1

[nd4reality]

Wow, I see the camps are starting already.

I am going to attempt to keep open minded this season, and not try to make the editing pattern fit the conclusion I have already reached. Wonder how long I'll be able to keep this up!

Can we start a camp for those who remain camp-less? Camp Outside-Looking-In? I'm not attached to any of these people. I guess that makes me objective, but it's also bringing everybody's negatives to the surface for me. Bummer.

I'm campless - always am - it's counterproductive to have a favourite and attempt look at the edits objectively.

Count me into this camp. I've actually reached the stage of belonging to the Camp 'I'm-not-really-interested'. I normally re-watch episodes and youtube fanvids over and over but this time I can barely even watch on mondays. I'm cringing right along with Ashley - all of it is just so hard to watch. Not sure if that makes me objective but with the wonky edit I'm honestly .

[ninu]

Wow, I see the camps are starting already.

I am going to attempt to keep open minded this season, and not try to make the editing pattern fit the conclusion I have already reached. Wonder how long I'll be able to keep this up!

Can we start a camp for those who remain camp-less? Camp Outside-Looking-In? I'm not attached to any of these people. I guess that makes me objective, but it's also bringing everybody's negatives to the surface for me. Bummer.

I'm campless - always am - it's counterproductive to have a favourite and attempt look at the edits objectively.

Count me into this camp. I've actually reached the stage of belonging to the Camp 'I'm-not-really-interested'. I normally re-watch episodes and youtube fanvids over and over but this time I can barely even watch on mondays. I'm cringing right along with Ashley - all of it is just so hard to watch. Not sure if that makes me objective but with the wonky edit I'm honestly .

Ditto... I can't wait for the HTDs to see if I get sucked back in... but as of right now this board is the only thing keeping me watching (well that and the potential of Jash - though I'm almost convinced Ben is F1 since I never pick the F1 as my favorite!) :Flirty:

[rc49ers]

out of all the Bach and Ette seasons only 1 favorite ended as the F-1 maybe this time if RS is on target this will make it my second .

[Starshine_16]

out of all the Bach and Ette seasons only 1 favorite ended as the F-1 maybe this time if RS is on target this will make it my second .

3 of my favorites ended up as the F1.I honestly don't have a favorite this time.

[rc49ers]

I had no luck picking out F-1 on any of the bachelor seasons , not a good record for me . I wanted Chantal on Brads season but wasn't meant to be ,

From what i hear Chantal's happy , and I'm Happy for her .

[anders]

seems to me you'd be happy that Chantal dodged that bullet... :awesome:

[rc49ers]

Very happy :D

[Guest]

I found, after rewatching the group date, JP making very similar types of comments as past F2s have made and really close to the kind that Chris L would make. Per this past week I would put Ben as f1 and JP as f2 based on his comments and some behavior as well

That is another reason why I am doubting that JP is F1.........waaaay too many comments made by JP that belongs to a F2 edit. That and I have always had a healthy sceptism when it comes to RS and his final 1 spoilers..........he has been wrong more than right.

Agreed - JP could be F1 but right now he's not getting a F1 edit. This season is proving to be difficult to determine a f1 from the edit, but I'm hoping once it's down to F4 and the majority of the drama is over that things start to fall into place - especially after Bentley is permanently gone.

Actually, I did the numbers and RS has been right 60% of the time - he was right about Jason dumping Melissa for Molly, right that Jake picked Vienna, right that Chris L was F2, wrong that Ali was single and wrong that Chantal was F1.

Didn't RS say that no one was chosen with Ali's season and he was sticking to it, then later, changed his mind, after it was proven on Fort that she did choose Roberto and Chris L was F2, then he said that HE found that out.........as far as I am concerned with his scores, he has only been right with Jason/Melissa/Molly. Other than that, he either didn't have it right or continually changed his mind. Therefore I am really taking his info with a grain of salt and making my own assumptions/observations. I really do feel from what my sources have provided that something's up with the final 1...........we have sc of Ryan in Fiji, we have a voice over of him there as well. We have a SC of what we are assuming to be Constantine per the shorts he wore in Phuket, at a waterfall in Fiji, we have other sources than RS confirming that we have HTD's for Constantine and Ben. We have no confirmed htd for Ames and JP, no confirmed JP sitings/sc's in Fiji, just a VO. IMO, we have a lot holes to be filled. and properly sleuthed out.

[anders]

I found, after rewatching the group date, JP making very similar types of comments as past F2s have made and really close to the kind that Chris L would make. Per this past week I would put Ben as f1 and JP as f2 based on his comments and some behavior as well

That is another reason why I am doubting that JP is F1.........waaaay too many comments made by JP that belongs to a F2 edit. That and I have always had a healthy sceptism when it comes to RS and his final 1 spoilers..........he has been wrong more than right.

Agreed - JP could be F1 but right now he's not getting a F1 edit. This season is proving to be difficult to determine a f1 from the edit, but I'm hoping once it's down to F4 and the majority of the drama is over that things start to fall into place - especially after Bentley is permanently gone.

Actually, I did the numbers and RS has been right 60% of the time - he was right about Jason dumping Melissa for Molly, right that Jake picked Vienna, right that Chris L was F2, wrong that Ali was single and wrong that Chantal was F1.

Didn't RS say that no one was chosen with Ali's season and he was sticking to it, then later, changed his mind, after it was proven on Fort that she did choose Roberto and Chris L was F2, then he said that HE found that out.........as far as I am concerned with his scores, he has only been right with Jason/Melissa/Molly. Other than that, he either didn't have it right or continually changed his mind. Therefore I am really taking his info with a grain of salt and making my own assumptions/observations. I really do feel from what my sources have provided that something's up with the final 1...........we have sc of Ryan in Fiji, we have a voice over of him there as well. We have a SC of what we are assuming to be Constantine per the shorts he wore in Phuket, at a waterfall in Fiji, we have other sources than RS confirming that we have HTD's for Constantine and Ben. We have no confirmed htd for Ames and JP, no confirmed JP sitings/sc's in Fiji, just a VO. IMO, we have a lot holes to be filled. and properly sleuthed out.

correct me if I'm wrong, but he was right when he said Chris L was F2 and he was right when he said Jake picked Vienna - I don't intend to argue, only that he has been more right than wrong - and because he has been wrong we all have to take his info with a grain of salt and continue to sleuth - I'm not sold that JP is F1, he could be, but I'm not seeing it.

[agentcurls]

Didn't RS say that no one was chosen with Ali's season and he was sticking to it, then later, changed his mind, after it was proven on Fort that she did choose Roberto and Chris L was F2, then he said that HE found that out.........as far as I am concerned with his scores, he has only been right with Jason/Melissa/Molly. Other than that, he either didn't have it right or continually changed his mind. Therefore I am really taking his info with a grain of salt and making my own assumptions/observations. I really do feel from what my sources have provided that something's up with the final 1...........we have sc of Ryan in Fiji, we have a voice over of him there as well. We have a SC of what we are assuming to be Constantine per the shorts he wore in Phuket, at a waterfall in Fiji, we have other sources than RS confirming that we have HTD's for Constantine and Ben. We have no confirmed htd for Ames and JP, no confirmed JP sitings/sc's in Fiji, just a VO. IMO, we have a lot holes to be filled. and properly sleuthed out.

I'm not convinced Con goes onto Fiji...

The guys go from Asia, back to the States for HTDs, then onto Fiji....one of the other guys could've brought their own orange swim trunks.

[gurlbrit]

Didn't RS say that no one was chosen with Ali's season and he was sticking to it, then later, changed his mind, after it was proven on Fort that she did choose Roberto and Chris L was F2, then he said that HE found that out.........as far as I am concerned with his scores, he has only been right with Jason/Melissa/Molly. Other than that, he either didn't have it right or continually changed his mind. Therefore I am really taking his info with a grain of salt and making my own assumptions/observations. I really do feel from what my sources have provided that something's up with the final 1...........we have sc of Ryan in Fiji, we have a voice over of him there as well. We have a SC of what we are assuming to be Constantine per the shorts he wore in Phuket, at a waterfall in Fiji, we have other sources than RS confirming that we have HTD's for Constantine and Ben. We have no confirmed htd for Ames and JP, no confirmed JP sitings/sc's in Fiji, just a VO. IMO, we have a lot holes to be filled. and properly sleuthed out.

I'm not convinced Con goes onto Fiji...


The guys go from Asia, back to the States for HTDs, then onto Fiji....one of the other guys could've brought their own orange swim trunks.

Do we know what the guys received in their goody bags? In the past there have been items of clothing in the ladies bags. Maybe orange shorts were part of that.

[Reality Mary]

Didn't RS say that no one was chosen with Ali's season and he was sticking to it, then later, changed his mind, after it was proven on Fort that she did choose Roberto and Chris L was F2, then he said that HE found that out.........as far as I am concerned with his scores, he has only been right with Jason/Melissa/Molly. Other than that, he either didn't have it right or continually changed his mind. Therefore I am really taking his info with a grain of salt and making my own assumptions/observations. I really do feel from what my sources have provided that something's up with the final 1...........we have sc of Ryan in Fiji, we have a voice over of him there as well. We have a SC of what we are assuming to be Constantine per the shorts he wore in Phuket, at a waterfall in Fiji, we have other sources than RS confirming that we have HTD's for Constantine and Ben. We have no confirmed htd for Ames and JP, no confirmed JP sitings/sc's in Fiji, just a VO. IMO, we have a lot holes to be filled. and properly sleuthed out.

I'm not convinced Con goes onto Fiji...


The guys go from Asia, back to the States for HTDs, then onto Fiji....one of the other guys could've brought their own orange swim trunks.

Do we know what the guys received in their goody bags? In the past there have been items of clothing in the ladies bags. Maybe orange shorts were part of that.

Your post made me laugh. Wouldn't that be funny if MF provided four pair of orange trunks to mess with us. I am not convinced of anything this year. So confusing but I keep telling myself the one thing they can't mess with is body language and to keep watching the main players. I don't know much about body language but wish someone would look at it. Seems Ashley keeps legs and arms crossed in some situations. Doesn't that mean she is closed off to the person?

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