Episode 4 - 6/13 - Discussion - Spoilers

Ben is Final 1 and I am sticking to my gut feeling. That look tonight as if she is just realizing what she is missing and going back for more kisses from dear ben (my rafa nadal) and that moan when hugging him is getting me excited

mnmhughes wrote:

cupcakes wrote:Next week, we get Benny's 1 on 1 date. Looking forward to that! :Nod:

Yes! We can actually get to know him. I want to know about his family, how he started in the wine industry, etc.
Also, I want to see if he can throw in any more Scooby-doo references!

No doubt! Maybe Ben's story-line is that he's an obsessive Scooby-doo fanatic and Ashley doesn't know if she can be more important then the tv show to Ben. Well, it's better then this stupid Bentley storyline at the least. I need to lay off the rum.

reason wrote:Ben is Final 1 and I am sticking to my gut feeling. That look tonight as if she is just realizing what she is missing and going back for more kisses from dear ben (my rafa nadal) and that moan when hugging him is getting me excited

She did seem to have an awakening of sorts with Ben tonight. They were both crushing pretty hard on each other. Next week's 1:1 ought to be good.

black_tears wrote:

NadjaM wrote:

Pattycake92 wrote:Has anyone had that hot of a makeout session on a group date ever? What are they going to on their fantasy date? :shy:

Haha, do you really want the answer? I had a 'real life' conversation with Reality Steve about this issue that was interesting and insightful. There might be more scandalous acts in those dates than we're led to believe.

Ok, call me curious...expand please?

Well, I actually know the guy...in reality, which is quite different from the callous persona that's displayed in the blog. The last time he was in my city we were hanging out after wandering to a few different bars, and we started talking about The Bach fantasy dates. So much of his info comes from prior contestants, namely women (who love to spill gossip), and he started listing seasons of The Bach where he'd been told by all three of the top women that they slept with the lead on the fantasy date. The producers really do disappear, leaving the couple to do anything they want with no cameras. And the dates are filmed one after another, so it's like back-to-back each night. That has to be hard for any F1 to watch.

black_tears wrote:

Beeleever wrote:

Alexxxx wrote:

Fascinator11 wrote:

Beagle wrote:

agentcurls wrote:

mnmhughes wrote:Trista tweeted the following:

@ryansutter could tell you better, but I feel asleep on his lap in the limo back from SeaWorld. Guess that happened 2 JP. good sign.

That's 2 ex-ettes who are on the JP train.....just sayin' :A-okay:

I'm totally on the JP train. It's just so obvious to me that they're crazy about each other. Ashley must be mortified about the way they are portraying her as being a fool for Bentley. I'm not bying that story at all, she's been more into JP from the beginning. Ali and Trista know how it works behind the scenes.

I thought Ali was on the Chantal is F1 train last year until the whole I love you thing between Brad and Emily. They don't always know everything!

Ali is just drunk on romance. Anytime somebody gets kissy faced that's exactly like her and Roberto! Ugh

I don't know who Ashley chose, but I can't imagine either potential relationship being strong enough to withstand the edit Ashley's getting. Particularly JP, with his competitive side. It would be a huge blow to a male ego to be thought of as default f1.

My other observation...after the intense kiss JP and Ash shared, she then says she is giving the group date rose to someone she is starting to feel something strong with...Ben! This show must make the participants feel like psychopaths. I can't even imagine what it would feel like to start to develop feelings for someone and then watch them with multiple other guys/girls. No wonder the success rate is so miniscule. Between that and the edit, MF and company are not interested in the least about these couples making it IRL. In fact, it is almost as if they do everything to ensure they do not succeed.

Hmm, this brings up a good point. Even though JP's kisses looked steamier and she said in a PI that she thought JP was the best kisser, Ashley did also say that she felt the most emotionally connected to Ben F while kissing him. So we're getting a physical edit vs. slower developing relationship?? I flip-flop every two minutes who is Ashley's F1.

Yep, Alex. I will be surprised too. And Black Tears, I'm flip-flopping right with you. Feel like I'm a mermaid in the new Pirates of the Caribbean movie.

Alexxxx wrote:

reason wrote:Ben is Final 1 and I am sticking to my gut feeling. That look tonight as if she is just realizing what she is missing and going back for more kisses from dear ben (my rafa nadal) and that moan when hugging him is getting me excited

She did seem to have an awakening of sorts with Ben tonight. They were both crushing pretty hard on each other. Next week's 1:1 ought to be good.

Right ~ so much so that it appeared like a diss to JP, saying what
she did about developing strong feelings (after JP makeout session), and handing the GD rose to Ben!!

The Bently crap continues as a smoke screen and certainly is keeping the focus away from the top 2 yat the very least

Nibbles22 wrote:

Alexxxx wrote:

reason wrote:Ben is Final 1 and I am sticking to my gut feeling. That look tonight as if she is just realizing what she is missing and going back for more kisses from dear ben (my rafa nadal) and that moan when hugging him is getting me excited

She did seem to have an awakening of sorts with Ben tonight. They were both crushing pretty hard on each other. Next week's 1:1 ought to be good.

Right ~ so much so that it appeared like a diss to JP, saying what
she did about developing strong feelings (after JP makeout session), and handing the GD rose to Ben!!

I have two thoughts about that:
1) Did she have to give the rose out in front of everyone, or could she have pulled Ben aside and done it privately?
2) Do TPTB encourage the leads to give roses to certain people, specifically those who have not had 1-on-1s?

NadjaM wrote:

black_tears wrote:

NadjaM wrote:

Pattycake92 wrote:Has anyone had that hot of a makeout session on a group date ever? What are they going to on their fantasy date? :shy:

Haha, do you really want the answer? I had a 'real life' conversation with Reality Steve about this issue that was interesting and insightful. There might be more scandalous acts in those dates than we're led to believe.

Ok, call me curious...expand please?

Well, I actually know the guy...in reality, which is quite different from the callous persona that's displayed in the blog. The last time he was in my city we were hanging out after wandering to a few different bars, and we started talking about The Bach fantasy dates. So much of his info comes from prior contestants, namely women (who love to spill gossip), and he started listing seasons of The Bach where he'd been told by all three of the top women that they slept with the lead on the fantasy date. The producers really do disappear, leaving the couple to do anything they want with no cameras. And the dates are filmed one after another, so it's like back-to-back each night. That has to be hard for any F1 to watch.

Geez, is it any wonder why none of the Bach/F1 relationships last!

Very common practice to give group date roses out in front of the others

Tptb may encourage group date roses but it is really up to the Bach,ette

black_tears wrote:
Hmm, this brings up a good point. Even though JP's kisses looked steamier and she said in a PI that she thought JP was the best kisser, Ashley did also say that she felt the most emotionally connected to Ben F while kissing him. So we're getting a physical edit vs. slower developing relationship?? I flip-flop every two minutes who is Ashley's F1.

Here is the actual quote from Ashley:

This kiss with Ben F. was really, really good. I think a lot of it had to do with me feeling it in an emotional kind of way. As time goes by, Ben F. keeps getting a little bit more confident and a little bit more comfortable in this setting and I’m beginning to see that… and I definitely like what I see.

JBF wrote:

black_tears wrote:
Hmm, this brings up a good point. Even though JP's kisses looked steamier and she said in a PI that she thought JP was the best kisser, Ashley did also say that she felt the most emotionally connected to Ben F while kissing him. So we're getting a physical edit vs. slower developing relationship?? I flip-flop every two minutes who is Ashley's F1.

Here is the actual quote from Ashley:

This kiss with Ben F. was really, really good. I think a lot of it had to do with me feeling it in an emotional kind of way. As time goes by, Ben F. keeps getting a little bit more confident and a little bit more comfortable in this setting and I’m beginning to see that… and I definitely like what I see.

Didn't she say this during an ITM from before the group date? Seems like she was in her group date outfit, but she was still dry.