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Post by shoepie Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:06 pm

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Pattycake92 wrote:The edit has done exactly what it was intended to do which is confuse people. Anyone who actually thinks that JP took a popularity hit last night is just grasping at straws. That was not a bad edit at all. Now Ed, that's what I call a bad edit. Ian also had what I would call a bad edit. JP and Ben should be very happy with producers. They've been very nice to them.

surely you jest??? not a bad edit - that was up there with Vienna and her confrontational edit.

I didn't see JP's edit as bad. It is only those who think his admission of jealousy was negative and perhaps too fiesty and possessive. Many viewers, especially the unspoiled, will see this as a positive declaraton of love brewing. And it made interesting TV so why even think of editing this out for whatever reason?

I find Ben more compelling but I believe JP is F1.
Well my unspoiled friends and family saw JP actions tonight very unfavorable..They were like who died and made him God..If left them with a bad taste in their mouth..They enjoyed Ben and thought Ames was real tonight.
Good to know. It is hard to figure the unspoiled viewer from where I sit so I shouldn't even try! :Nod: I definately saw it as negative, no doubt about that. When I first read his bio I was surprised he included a such a negative trait in it. He is clearly a hot head and one of the many reasons I predict this relationship will fail.
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Post by Hotmomma Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:01 pm

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Pattycake92 wrote:The edit has done exactly what it was intended to do which is confuse people. Anyone who actually thinks that JP took a popularity hit last night is just grasping at straws. That was not a bad edit at all. Now Ed, that's what I call a bad edit. Ian also had what I would call a bad edit. JP and Ben should be very happy with producers. They've been very nice to them.

surely you jest??? not a bad edit - that was up there with Vienna and her confrontational edit.

I didn't see JP's edit as bad. It is only those who think his admission of jealousy was negative and perhaps too fiesty and possessive. Many viewers, especially the unspoiled, will see this as a positive declaraton of love brewing. And it made interesting TV so why even think of editing this out for whatever reason?

I find Ben more compelling but I believe JP is F1.
Well my unspoiled friends and family saw JP actions tonight very unfavorable..They were like who died and made him God..If left them with a bad taste in their mouth..They enjoyed Ben and thought Ames was real tonight.
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Post by anders Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:00 pm

Oh I knew there would be no storming - lots of people called that one.

I think it's most telling that Lucas pointed out that silence is how JP deals with anger/frustration - shows he's shown it before, this wasn't his first rodeo.


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Post by Pattycake92 Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:58 pm

Ashley liked that JP was jealous. Did you see her face? JP is going to have to watch Ash make out with Ben a lot more before this is over and if he can get through that then I'd say he's a pretty secure guy. Good thing he has that journal that Ashley wrote for him.
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Post by noobsleuth Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:53 pm

anders wrote:
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Pattycake92 wrote:The edit has done exactly what it was intended to do which is confuse people. Anyone who actually thinks that JP took a popularity hit last night is just grasping at straws. That was not a bad edit at all. Now Ed, that's what I call a bad edit. Ian also had what I would call a bad edit. JP and Ben should be very happy with producers. They've been very nice to them.

surely you jest??? not a bad edit - that was up there with Vienna and her confrontational edit.

I didn't see JP's edit as bad. It is only those who think his admission of jealousy was negative and perhaps too fiesty and possessive. Many viewers, especially the unspoiled, will see this as a positive declaraton of love brewing. And it made interesting TV so why even think of editing this out for whatever reason?

I find Ben more compelling but I believe JP is F1.

I'm not talking about the convo he had with Ashley - I'm talking about the 'I can't speak right now' jealousy he displayed in the hotel room.

I totally called that!! LOL. I knew there would be no "storming" but I knew he would remain silent as not to incriminate himself. When Dino wanted to talk about it he didn't ... good for him for not spewing nonsense. He left the room quietly to collect himself. I don't know if it's more healthy to repress frustration or throw your fist through a wall and call it therapeutic.. that's a doctor's call. lol


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Post by anders Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:51 pm

what's most interesting was Lucas' comment about when he gets angry he just gets silent (something like that) so obviously this wasn't the first time JP got frustrated/angry/jealous whatever, for Lucas to have a handle on JPs behaviour. It's always the surrounding things that tell also the story and shouldn't be overlooked.


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Post by shoepie Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:50 pm

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Pattycake92 wrote:The edit has done exactly what it was intended to do which is confuse people. Anyone who actually thinks that JP took a popularity hit last night is just grasping at straws. That was not a bad edit at all. Now Ed, that's what I call a bad edit. Ian also had what I would call a bad edit. JP and Ben should be very happy with producers. They've been very nice to them.

surely you jest??? not a bad edit - that was up there with Vienna and her confrontational edit.

I didn't see JP's edit as bad. It is only those who think his admission of jealousy was negative and perhaps too fiesty and possessive. Many viewers, especially the unspoiled, will see this as a positive declaraton of love brewing. And it made interesting TV so why even think of editing this out for whatever reason?

I find Ben more compelling but I believe JP is F1.

I'm not talking about the convo he had with Ashley - I'm talking about the 'I can't speak right now' jealousy he displayed in the hotel room.

Yeah, I got that. It was a red flag to me, absolutlely. Just saying many viewers may see this as a sign he has fallen in love to explain why I think some may not see this as negative edit.
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Post by proudmommy50810 Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:47 pm

shoepie wrote:
anders wrote:
Pattycake92 wrote:The edit has done exactly what it was intended to do which is confuse people. Anyone who actually thinks that JP took a popularity hit last night is just grasping at straws. That was not a bad edit at all. Now Ed, that's what I call a bad edit. Ian also had what I would call a bad edit. JP and Ben should be very happy with producers. They've been very nice to them.

surely you jest??? not a bad edit - that was up there with Vienna and her confrontational edit.

I didn't see JP's edit as bad. It is only those who think his admission of jealousy was negative and perhaps too fiesty and possessive. Many viewers, especially the unspoiled, will see this as a positive declaraton of love brewing. And it made interesting TV so why even think of editing this out for whatever reason?

I find Ben more compelling but I believe JP is F1.

I didn't see his edit as bad either, certainly nothing like Ed and Vienna! He was definitely jealous, but I didn't think he handled it poorly...JMO. He wasn't lashing out at anyone, instead chose to stay quiet or walk away.

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Post by anders Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:44 pm

shoepie wrote:
anders wrote:
Pattycake92 wrote:The edit has done exactly what it was intended to do which is confuse people. Anyone who actually thinks that JP took a popularity hit last night is just grasping at straws. That was not a bad edit at all. Now Ed, that's what I call a bad edit. Ian also had what I would call a bad edit. JP and Ben should be very happy with producers. They've been very nice to them.

surely you jest??? not a bad edit - that was up there with Vienna and her confrontational edit.

I didn't see JP's edit as bad. It is only those who think his admission of jealousy was negative and perhaps too fiesty and possessive. Many viewers, especially the unspoiled, will see this as a positive declaraton of love brewing. And it made interesting TV so why even think of editing this out for whatever reason?

I find Ben more compelling but I believe JP is F1.

I'm not talking about the convo he had with Ashley - I'm talking about the 'I can't speak right now' jealousy he displayed in the hotel room.


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Post by shoepie Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:41 pm

anders wrote:
Pattycake92 wrote:The edit has done exactly what it was intended to do which is confuse people. Anyone who actually thinks that JP took a popularity hit last night is just grasping at straws. That was not a bad edit at all. Now Ed, that's what I call a bad edit. Ian also had what I would call a bad edit. JP and Ben should be very happy with producers. They've been very nice to them.

surely you jest??? not a bad edit - that was up there with Vienna and her confrontational edit.

I didn't see JP's edit as bad. It is only those who think his admission of jealousy was negative and perhaps too fiesty and possessive. Many viewers, especially the unspoiled, will see this as a positive declaraton of love brewing. And it made interesting TV so why even think of editing this out for whatever reason?

I find Ben more compelling but I believe JP is F1.
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Post by Guest Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:55 am

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I definitely see a set up for Ryan's return. Her misgivings in her PI plus how long they focused the camera on him when he left totally feeds into a return in Fiji. However, I'm not sure that Ryan's return will factor into her decision-making about WHO she'll choose, because she's clearly stated (more than once) that the romantic feelings were missing. He will affect HOW she gets to her end decision, but I don't see the WHO. Do you believe differently Coastal, based on your information?
Yup, like I said, they apparently spend more time together than what RS has said, then there is the issue of the maybe connection beyond the security and other attributes she is feeling from Ryan. There is definately more to tell. I have serious reservations as to whether JP is the F1 as RS states. Still too many unanswered questions out there that need to be finalized. Ben is looking more and more like the likely F1, IMO.

coastal, weren't you the same person around a month ago who also said your sources told you Ryan gets a hometown date and Constantine doesn't? i can go back and find it if you'd like, but i remember we had this debate back then and you got all huffy because I called you out on it and i said when the time comes, may i come back on the site and get your apologies? it's that time. but you won't apologize for your sources being wrong on that, so why should we believe your sources now?[/quote]

Wow... a little harsh don't you think? We are all sleuths here and sometimes info pans out and sometimes it doesn't. I am appreciative of anyone that is willing to share insight and opinions whether they are right or wrong. Its what makes for GOOD converstation. I appreciate your insight babymomma but I want to hear others as well.

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Post by anders Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:50 am

Pattycake92 wrote:The edit has done exactly what it was intended to do which is confuse people. Anyone who actually thinks that JP took a popularity hit last night is just grasping at straws. That was not a bad edit at all. Now Ed, that's what I call a bad edit. Ian also had what I would call a bad edit. JP and Ben should be very happy with producers. They've been very nice to them.

surely you jest??? not a bad edit - that was up there with Vienna and her confrontational edit.


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