Episode 3 - 6/6 - Discussion - Spoilers

Starshine_16 wrote:

dee wrote:

CarrieAlexander wrote:Ok so far we have:
-William screwed his chances because of the roast
-Blake and Mickey screwed their chances with the Ryan drama
-Bentley doesn't need explanation..
-Dino could very well be due to religious differences
-Ryan drama could cause his early exit

I wonder what Ames will do..be too smart for her?

And Who is Lucas?? :giggle:

And Blake and Nick? How are they still there?

Can only let so many go at once :bigsmile:

Jeepers wrote:

Starshine_16 wrote:

dee wrote:

CarrieAlexander wrote:Ok so far we have:
-William screwed his chances because of the roast
-Blake and Mickey screwed their chances with the Ryan drama
-Bentley doesn't need explanation..
-Dino could very well be due to religious differences
-Ryan drama could cause his early exit

I wonder what Ames will do..be too smart for her?

And Who is Lucas?? :giggle:

And Blake and Nick? How are they still there?

Can only let so many go at once :bigsmile:

Not meaning to sound 'itchy but Ashley sure made sure that she kissed all of them. Well, except maybe Blake . No wonder he seems so pissed.

nd4reality wrote:

Jeepers wrote:

Starshine_16 wrote:

dee wrote:

CarrieAlexander wrote:Ok so far we have:
-William screwed his chances because of the roast
-Blake and Mickey screwed their chances with the Ryan drama
-Bentley doesn't need explanation..
-Dino could very well be due to religious differences
-Ryan drama could cause his early exit

I wonder what Ames will do..be too smart for her?

And Who is Lucas?? :giggle:

And Blake and Nick? How are they still there?

Can only let so many go at once :bigsmile:

Not meaning to sound 'itchy but Ashley sure made sure that she kissed all of them. Well, except maybe Blake . No wonder he seems so pissed.

Don't worry, she still has time to kiss Blake when he wins the boxing competition :winkie:

Love_Me wrote:

CarrieAlexander wrote:I think we have to take into consideration that Ben has been no where to be found.. it would be weird for her to talk about him when we haven't really seen him or know who he is for that matter.

It is like someone said the F1 has been hidden before, but have they ever been this hidden?

I thought that Jesse was a bit hidden but he got a FIR and I think they did show him and Dee talking in the 1st 3 episodes.
But with Ben f - we have nothing upto episode 3 other than ep 1. Thats what makes it strange.
Sorry I forgot, wasn't Jason a bit hidden till after episode 3 ? Sorry no, he told her that he wanted to travel etc. etc, so no he was not as hidden as Ben f.

BlondieGal wrote:

Hotmomma wrote:
Yes I do think I remember Fleiss saying that Ashley was the best...Or his girl..or something like that..I think he does think this is the best season ever..JMO..However he did tweet some about the FRC..LIKE OMG...Having said that they do change edit after taping IF the "happy couple" changes..It just seem like why are they throwing Ashley under the bus? BUT to the non spoilers(friends/family)..Feel so sorry for her being played behind her back..And they are hoping that she'll find her man..which after JP last date with her think he is the man...

A true and only "OMG" moment would be if Ashley accepted a proposal from Bentley. :what: If she walked away from all the men, well that has been done before.

...and simultaneously, in a voiceover, say that he wasn't really her type, but she'd let him hoochie her coochie...

dee wrote:

nd4reality wrote:

Jeepers wrote:

Starshine_16 wrote:

dee wrote:

CarrieAlexander wrote:Ok so far we have:
-William screwed his chances because of the roast
-Blake and Mickey screwed their chances with the Ryan drama
-Bentley doesn't need explanation..
-Dino could very well be due to religious differences
-Ryan drama could cause his early exit

I wonder what Ames will do..be too smart for her?

And Who is Lucas?? :giggle:

And Blake and Nick? How are they still there?

Can only let so many go at once :bigsmile:

Not meaning to sound 'itchy but Ashley sure made sure that she kissed all of them. Well, except maybe Blake . No wonder he seems so pissed.

Don't worry, she still has time to kiss Blake when he wins the boxing competition :winkie:

Or maybe not. So he goes ballistic . (sorry I liked Blake but he sure is acting like a woman on this show).

nd4reality wrote:

Love_Me wrote:

CarrieAlexander wrote:I think we have to take into consideration that Ben has been no where to be found.. it would be weird for her to talk about him when we haven't really seen him or know who he is for that matter.

It is like someone said the F1 has been hidden before, but have they ever been this hidden?

I thought that Jesse was a bit hidden but he got a FIR and I think they did show him and Dee talking in the 1st 3 episodes.
But with Ben f - we have nothing upto episode 3 other than ep 1. Thats what makes it strange.
Sorry I forgot, wasn't Jason a bit hidden till after episode 3 ? Sorry no, he told her that he wanted to travel etc. etc, so no he was not as hidden as Ben f.

But given that Jesse wasn't who DeAnna actually wanted for her F1,does that still count?

Starshine_16 wrote:

nd4reality wrote:

Love_Me wrote:

CarrieAlexander wrote:I think we have to take into consideration that Ben has been no where to be found.. it would be weird for her to talk about him when we haven't really seen him or know who he is for that matter.

It is like someone said the F1 has been hidden before, but have they ever been this hidden?

I thought that Jesse was a bit hidden but he got a FIR and I think they did show him and Dee talking in the 1st 3 episodes.
But with Ben f - we have nothing upto episode 3 other than ep 1. Thats what makes it strange.
Sorry I forgot, wasn't Jason a bit hidden till after episode 3 ? Sorry no, he told her that he wanted to travel etc. etc, so no he was not as hidden as Ben f.

But given that Jesse wasn't who DeAnna actually wanted for her F1,does that still count?

Who knows. I think folks are trying to match some editing pattern and we're all coming up empty handed. The fact is that Jesse was F1 and had a (slightly) hidden edit so .

nd4reality wrote:

Starshine_16 wrote:

nd4reality wrote:

Love_Me wrote:

CarrieAlexander wrote:I think we have to take into consideration that Ben has been no where to be found.. it would be weird for her to talk about him when we haven't really seen him or know who he is for that matter.

It is like someone said the F1 has been hidden before, but have they ever been this hidden?

I thought that Jesse was a bit hidden but he got a FIR and I think they did show him and Dee talking in the 1st 3 episodes.
But with Ben f - we have nothing upto episode 3 other than ep 1. Thats what makes it strange.
Sorry I forgot, wasn't Jason a bit hidden till after episode 3 ? Sorry no, he told her that he wanted to travel etc. etc, so no he was not as hidden as Ben f.

But given that Jesse wasn't who DeAnna actually wanted for her F1,does that still count?

Who knows. I think folks are trying to match some editing pattern and we're all coming up empty handed. The fact is that Jesse was F1 and had a (slightly) hidden edit so .

Off topic, but because Jesse was "default" when Graham left, did Jesse know this? Was their relationship "platonic" or did he think he was truly it for her?

nd4reality wrote:

Starshine_16 wrote:

nd4reality wrote:

Love_Me wrote:

CarrieAlexander wrote:I think we have to take into consideration that Ben has been no where to be found.. it would be weird for her to talk about him when we haven't really seen him or know who he is for that matter.

It is like someone said the F1 has been hidden before, but have they ever been this hidden?

I thought that Jesse was a bit hidden but he got a FIR and I think they did show him and Dee talking in the 1st 3 episodes.
But with Ben f - we have nothing upto episode 3 other than ep 1. Thats what makes it strange.
Sorry I forgot, wasn't Jason a bit hidden till after episode 3 ? Sorry no, he told her that he wanted to travel etc. etc, so no he was not as hidden as Ben f.

But given that Jesse wasn't who DeAnna actually wanted for her F1,does that still count?

Who knows. I think folks are trying to match some editing pattern and we're all coming up empty handed. The fact is that Jesse was F1 and
had a (slightly) hidden edit so .

I thought Jesse was all over the place. He got the FIR, won the push up match in ep 2 which gave him time with her. He also one the bull riding contest, gave him more time with her. His date was in Ep 4. We saw him chumming with the guys quite a bit, and he was ALWAYS around DeAnna. I thought Jesse was shown as competitive to some degree to get time with her, but he was always shown as getting along with the guys too..

JP is often right close to Ashley at the RC toasts, and when you watch it in slow mo, they make a lot of eye contact. Don't know if it means much, but intersting.

jojo47 wrote:

nd4reality wrote:

Starshine_16 wrote:

nd4reality wrote:

Love_Me wrote:

CarrieAlexander wrote:I think we have to take into consideration that Ben has been no where to be found.. it would be weird for her to talk about him when we haven't really seen him or know who he is for that matter.

It is like someone said the F1 has been hidden before, but have they ever been this hidden?

I thought that Jesse was a bit hidden but he got a FIR and I think they did show him and Dee talking in the 1st 3 episodes.
But with Ben f - we have nothing upto episode 3 other than ep 1. Thats what makes it strange.
Sorry I forgot, wasn't Jason a bit hidden till after episode 3 ? Sorry no, he told her that he wanted to travel etc. etc, so no he was not as hidden as Ben f.

But given that Jesse wasn't who DeAnna actually wanted for her F1,does that still count?

Who knows. I think folks are trying to match some editing pattern and we're all coming up empty handed. The fact is that Jesse was F1 and had a (slightly) hidden edit so .

Off topic, but because Jesse was "default" when Graham left, did Jesse know this? Was their relationship "platonic" or did he think he was truly it for her?

I can tell you by the end of the season he was 100% there for her and was really hurt when they broke up. In the end it was for the best. Jesse is extremely happy now with his wife and child.

My assumption is that there is nothing watchable/interesting to show of her interactions with Ben F, Constantine, or Ames as of episode 3, because her attention was elsewhere at that time. If you look at 1:1 dates and kisses as the leading indicators of where her attention was, there'd be nothing zero zip going on with those guys yet.

Remembering that the F6 or F4 are largely pre-cast before filming, it seems like a season where Her Picks don't match up well with Producer Picks, or else she just kept having FAILS with every guy they sent her way on personality, character or chemistry grounds. I don't think the producers would fail to send Ben F, Constantine or Ames out on a date in the first two weeks, if she WAS expressing serious interest in them as of that time in the filming.

"My future [wife/]husband is here" is among the dumbest standard lines the leads ever speak on camera in the early episodes. And it seems like Ashley was actually referring to Bentley seriously in that regard? Dumber than dumb.

Why would producers waste all of the early episodes on Non-Contenders such as Ryan, Will, Mickey, and Ben C.?

JP seems to have been cast to be F4 -- but lost the coin toss.

Anyway, I'm sticking with low Picker IQ as the explanation for the lack of show time with 3 of the final 4 in the first 3 episodes. She wasted the first two weeks of filming.