Episode 4 - 6/13 - Discussion - Spoilers

JP is coming across as a smart ass tonight.

JP: "If she gives Ryan another group date rose, everyone will leave" WTH?

Alexxxx wrote:Not a first kiss with Ben F, but definitely the beginning of the 'relationship'.

Booooo!! I wanted to see the first kiss.

Feeling bad for JP...they've changed his edit. Didn't think it was possible, but I'm thinking now he's F2. He's going to be heartbroken!

JP showing a lot of jealousy tonight...not looking good.

I think there is something to Ryan that we are not seeing. All the guys seem to feel the same way about him.

NadjaM wrote:The way that the guys are talking about Ryan reminds me of the way the girls talked about Vienna during Jake's season. "If that's what he/she's looking for, then that's definitely not me and I shouldn't be here."

Also sounds like what Nikki said about Natalie in Jason's season.

Can Ashley be the first lead to just pick both? I don't want either one to be the F2.

This will be a sad F2 rejection. F3, nothing, no drama with Dino. But F2 will be tough once again.

Missed the first part of show. So far nothing I've seen changes my mind about JP f1. But I didn't see his jealousy so what exactly happened?

Ryan is on another planet if he thinks that Ashley is having any kind of connection with him. She seems at quite a distant when talking to these guys. I am really becoming annoyed with her. She acts as if these guys are on some kind of job interview. Not feeling anything with Ashley. She is way too guarded in spite of all her b u l l talk about being open.

This Ryan drama is so forced and lame LOL. I"m sorry, but was there seriously no better material on film?

I'm so pleased they introduced us to Ben tonight!!!