Episode 4 - 6/13 - Discussion - Spoilers

cupcakes wrote:Ali said her favorite date was the Joshua Radin concert but said that her most romantic date was the heart shaped island.

So we need to be on the lookout when Ashley's says "most romantic date"? :Nod:

mnmhughes wrote:

Beeleever wrote:

Max64 wrote:

mnmhughes wrote:

Beeleever wrote:

Gina wrote:

reason wrote:Only thing this time both JP and Ben is on this date.

So they both are there, but only Ben F. gets the date rose, is that was you mean?

I think the producers make them spread the group dates around. If the lead always gave it to his/her F1, there would be no suspense or drama. That doesn't mean, however, that her favorite date wasn't a shout out to Ben F. if he is indeed her F1, since he has been non-existent in the edit.

Yes, this is true, or else Roberto would have gotten every single rose Ali had to hand out. :giggle:

I agree she needs to spread the roses :laughingoutlou Interesting though Ben gets a 1-1 before HTD's, and JP get the GDR before HTD's

Also interesting that JP gets both 1:1's the same days as major drama goes down with Bentley. Bugger.

It's interesting that once we hit HTD's, Ben and JP will be completely even. However, we will have more context with JP and Ashley's relationship. It's an even playing field, for the most part. They just can't give us anything, can they?

Let's just say I've gotten so used to pulling my hair out watching this show, I hardly feel a thing anymore!

I'm going to take BlondieGal's very sound advice and read what Ashley is posting in her blogs. MF is certainly not going to throw us one single bone.

cupcakes wrote:Ali said her favorite date was the Joshua Radin concert but said that her most romantic date was the heart shaped island.

Note to media people: Ask Ashley what the most romantic date was so we can hopefully have a clearer picture of the outcome for the season.

Beeleever wrote:

mnmhughes wrote:

Beeleever wrote:

Max64 wrote:

mnmhughes wrote:

Beeleever wrote:

Gina wrote:

reason wrote:Only thing this time both JP and Ben is on this date.

So they both are there, but only Ben F. gets the date rose, is that was you mean?

I think the producers make them spread the group dates around. If the lead always gave it to his/her F1, there would be no suspense or drama. That doesn't mean, however, that her favorite date wasn't a shout out to Ben F. if he is indeed her F1, since he has been non-existent in the edit.

Yes, this is true, or else Roberto would have gotten every single rose Ali had to hand out. :giggle:

I agree she needs to spread the roses :laughingoutlou Interesting though Ben gets a 1-1 before HTD's, and JP get the GDR before HTD's

Also interesting that JP gets both 1:1's the same days as major drama goes down with Bentley. Bugger.

It's interesting that once we hit HTD's, Ben and JP will be completely even. However, we will have more context with JP and Ashley's relationship. It's an even playing field, for the most part. They just can't give us anything, can they?

Let's just say I've gotten so used to pulling my hair out watching this show, I hardly feel a thing anymore!

I'm going to take BlondieGal's very sound advice and read what Ashley is posting in her blogs. MF is certainly not going to throw us one single bone.

Beeleever, you must not have watched 20 seasons, or you'd be bald like me now.

And boy did I ever learn a lesson with that in Brad's blogs! I didn't think there was any way they would let him be that obvious!

chaslom4 wrote:And boy did I ever learn a lesson with that in Brad's blogs! I didn't think there was any way they would let him be that obvious!

I know, right? I can't wait to see what Ashley says about her F4 guys in her blog this week. She has to finally mention Ben!

The group date rose goes to Ben yet could have gone to any of the others. He did something special on that date... For the orphanage and was rewarded. She thought enough of him and et him know by giving him the rose

Gina wrote:

reason wrote:No she said this is her favorite date, and both ben and JP is there.

Ok, so it could mean either guy or just that she loved helping the orphans. Not a shout out to Ben F. or JP.

Right now everyone is spinning their wheels because we have not had the opportunity see quality 1 on 1 date interactions between Ashley and Ben. Also have to take into consideration the 1 on 1 time between Ashley and Ryan to get some understanding as to why he returns. Right now everything is just speculation as to how well Ashley fits with Ben. We really are dealing with a clean slate because we have seen very little interaction between them.

I know it sounds like forever, but everyone has to wait until a week from Monday night to really see Ben and Ashley together on their 1 on 1 date. This week we will see Ames and Constantine.

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Beeleever wrote:

mnmhughes wrote:
It's interesting that once we hit HTD's, Ben and JP will be completely even. However, we will have more context with JP and Ashley's relationship. It's an even playing field, for the most part. They just can't give us anything, can they?[/quote]

Let's just say I've gotten so used to pulling my hair out watching this show, I hardly feel a thing anymore!

I'm going to take BlondieGal's very sound advice and read what Ashley is posting in her blogs. MF is certainly not going to throw us one single bone.

Beeleever, you must not have watched 20 seasons, or you'd be bald like me now.

Gina, you are right, I didn't start watching until Travis Stork's season...so I still have three hairs left, and I just got them permed!

I thought I might have saw a trend. Excluding the rose ceremony before the HTD it looks like to me that all of the F1's got the last rose to be handed out before HTDs. Even Jesse C. got the last rose on his group date. No others were handed out before the RC leading to HTD. Can we confirm this? Am I making sense?

The first 1 on 1 date for ashley and ben is not monday it will be on the 20th.

The last final rose to the final 1 is handed out in a 1 on 1 situation. Jen from Plo season got it, Emily from Brad got it and SARAH from Travis got it just to name a few.