Re: Episode 4 - 6/13 - Discussion - Spoilers

by Starshine_16 Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:14 pm

Gina wrote:Ben F has tweets and articles promoting his winery which are recent.A friend of Ben's said Ben said he hoped being on the show would promote his winery. Ryan set up a website which includes alot about his company and his family with pictures. Constantine is back at his restaurant and inside is a huge banner that says he was on the bachelor and all the waiters are wearing roses on their lapels. lol
So far, I've heard nothing about Ames either.
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Does anyone remember the twitter activity of any other possible F1/F2's from previous seasons for compairason?

by klarson79 Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:15 pm

mnmhughes wrote:
reason wrote:
Rosepetal wrote:I’m definitely looking forward to Ryan’s edit. The viewers saw him first out of the limo (even though he wasn’t), getting the first impression rose and apparently a fan favorite. Why did they highlight Ryan? In the promos we see previews of the other guys talking about him not being the same person with them as he is with Ashley. I think right or wrong he is going to be villain number two. TPTB are highlighting that Ashley’s first impressions are not always right. Can she see through this and pick the right guy. JMO. I will find out soon enough if I’m right or wrong.

You could not have put it better. There are good guys there she just have to settle down and think and look and ask the right questions and she will find the one.

And that could include JP. No need to rule him out yet, just because we don't understand the edit.

by Guest Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:16 pm

I actually really like all the F5 guys. JP, Ben F. Ames, Dino and Ryan. So I'll be happy whoever she choses. I just want a happy ending and real love this time around and a happy couple at the AFRC.

by chaslom4 Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:17 pm

Starshine_16 wrote:
Gina wrote:Ben F has tweets and articles promoting his winery which are recent.A friend of Ben's said Ben said he hoped being on the show would promote his winery. Ryan set up a website which includes alot about his company and his family with pictures. Constantine is back at his restaurant and inside is a huge banner that says he was on the bachelor and all the waiters are wearing roses on their lapels. lol
So far, I've heard nothing about Ames either.
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Does anyone remember the twitter activity of any other possible F1/F2's from previous seasons for compairason?

I remember Roberto's being hidden and not supposed to have been found. Emily had one but was set to private. Chantal was tweeting before the show was over. Chris L. didn't have one till the after the finale aired. That's really all I can remember

by moonchild Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:19 pm

mnmhughes wrote:
reason wrote:
Rosepetal wrote:I’m definitely looking forward to Ryan’s edit. The viewers saw him first out of the limo (even though he wasn’t), getting the first impression rose and apparently a fan favorite. Why did they highlight Ryan? In the promos we see previews of the other guys talking about him not being the same person with them as he is with Ashley. I think right or wrong he is going to be villain number two. TPTB are highlighting that Ashley’s first impressions are not always right. Can she see through this and pick the right guy. JMO. I will find out soon enough if I’m right or wrong.

You could not have put it better. There are good guys there she just have to settle down and think and look and ask the right questions and she will find the one.

And that could include JP. No need to rule him out yet, just because we don't understand the edit.

I agree. TPTB could have read all of the stuff on the boards last season, like you know you're not F1 if...........
They could be changing it up. They certainly did last season with Brad showing so much attention and concern about Emily. I thought all of that was thrown in to make Chantal jealous and insecure and get an emotional break down from her. But, I was wrong......it was real!

by mnmhughes Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:19 pm

Gina wrote:I actually really like all the F5 guys. JP, Ben F. Ames, Dino and Ryan. So I'll be happy whoever she choses. I just want a happy ending and real love this time around and a happy couple at the AFRC.

by allykat Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:22 pm

moonchild wrote:I am sorry but I am on the JP downer wagon, too.

After watching the extended preview on Grapevine, I started to see that the JP edit is the Chantal/Bevin edit. Instant chemistry and attraction. Putting their feelings and emotions out there early on. The lead claiming that they are the one that make them feel the most comfortable. The one that....isn't chosen and is F2.

I keep asking the question, how are they going to sell this as a true romance after Ashley professed her love and affection for Bentley and not a second choice or default choice. JP has been front and center from the very beginning. Yes, there was chemistry, but the simple truth is that Ashley chose Bentley over JP. BenF on the other hand doesn't even show up in this story until after Bentley has already departed. He was never in competition with Bentley (or so they would have us believe) because he has been non-existent in the edit until after Bentley leaves. He might be her rebound guy but he isn't her default guy.

I luv, luv, luv JP and I hope I am wrong. But, for me, it's shaping up to be a JP F2 season.

I've been lurking for a few days, finally decided to post. I agree that the Grapevine video made me think it's not JP. But I don't think he's F2, I think he's Deanna - might have been F1 but she picks nobody. I don't see how anyone else can believably be the F1 at this point. We really haven't seen her interact with Ben F though, so maybe I'll change my mind after I see them this week.

I started to doubt that it's JP on the 1-on-1 date when he said 'you get hurt, then you move on' thing. I immediately thought they were setting him up to get hurt this season, then move on to find his amazing girl next season as the Bachelor. Then in the Grapevine video when he said he felt confident they were into each other it sealed my fear. When I hear the word confident I assume that TPTB left it in because it will prove false. My only hope is that I've never been right in predicting the outcome of this show, so hopefully that continues this time because I love me some JP.

by cupcakes Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:24 pm

allykat wrote:
moonchild wrote:I am sorry but I am on the JP downer wagon, too.

After watching the extended preview on Grapevine, I started to see that the JP edit is the Chantal/Bevin edit. Instant chemistry and attraction. Putting their feelings and emotions out there early on. The lead claiming that they are the one that make them feel the most comfortable. The one that....isn't chosen and is F2.

I keep asking the question, how are they going to sell this as a true romance after Ashley professed her love and affection for Bentley and not a second choice or default choice. JP has been front and center from the very beginning. Yes, there was chemistry, but the simple truth is that Ashley chose Bentley over JP. BenF on the other hand doesn't even show up in this story until after Bentley has already departed. He was never in competition with Bentley (or so they would have us believe) because he has been non-existent in the edit until after Bentley leaves. He might be her rebound guy but he isn't her default guy.

I luv, luv, luv JP and I hope I am wrong. But, for me, it's shaping up to be a JP F2 season.

I've been lurking for a few days, finally decided to post. I agree that the Grapevine video made me think it's not JP. But I don't think he's F2, I think he's Deanna - might have been F1 but she picks nobody. I don't see how anyone else can believably be the F1 at this point. We really haven't seen her interact with Ben F though, so maybe I'll change my mind after I see them this week.

I started to doubt that it's JP on the 1-on-1 date when he said 'you get hurt, then you move on' thing. I immediately thought they were setting him up to get hurt this season, then move on to find his amazing girl next season as the Bachelor. Then in the Grapevine video when he said he felt confident they were into each other it sealed my fear. When I hear the word confident I assume that TPTB left it in because it will prove false. My only hope is that I've never been right in predicting the outcome of this show, so hopefully that continues this time because I love me some JP.

allykat!

by Guest Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:26 pm

If JP is not F1, he would be a great bachelor. He's so personable and funny, and just something endearing about him when he smiles. His face is an open book.

by moonchild Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:31 pm

allykat wrote:
moonchild wrote:I am sorry but I am on the JP downer wagon, too.

After watching the extended preview on Grapevine, I started to see that the JP edit is the Chantal/Bevin edit. Instant chemistry and attraction. Putting their feelings and emotions out there early on. The lead claiming that they are the one that make them feel the most comfortable. The one that....isn't chosen and is F2.

I keep asking the question, how are they going to sell this as a true romance after Ashley professed her love and affection for Bentley and not a second choice or default choice. JP has been front and center from the very beginning. Yes, there was chemistry, but the simple truth is that Ashley chose Bentley over JP. BenF on the other hand doesn't even show up in this story until after Bentley has already departed. He was never in competition with Bentley (or so they would have us believe) because he has been non-existent in the edit until after Bentley leaves. He might be her rebound guy but he isn't her default guy.

I luv, luv, luv JP and I hope I am wrong. But, for me, it's shaping up to be a JP F2 season.

I've been lurking for a few days, finally decided to post. I agree that the Grapevine video made me think it's not JP. But I don't think he's F2, I think he's Deanna - might have been F1 but she picks nobody. I don't see how anyone else can believably be the F1 at this point. We really haven't seen her interact with Ben F though, so maybe I'll change my mind after I see them this week.

I started to doubt that it's JP on the 1-on-1 date when he said 'you get hurt, then you move on' thing. I immediately thought they were setting him up to get hurt this season, then move on to find his amazing girl next season as the Bachelor. Then in the Grapevine video when he said he felt confident they were into each other it sealed my fear. When I hear the word confident I assume that TPTB left it in because it will prove false. My only hope is that I've never been right in predicting the outcome of this show, so hopefully that continues this time because I love me some JP.

My only hope is that she has some steamy time with one or several of the others, but ends up with her rock, the guy that was always there for her when she needed him. I do think that when Bentley comes back, JP will once again be her rock, the one that she can lean on. I don't think it is coincidence that Bentley comes back the same episode that JP has his 2nd 1:1 date with Ashley. But, is this more like a friendship?

by chaslom4 Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:37 pm

Didn't they show at least something with Emily just about every week as well?

by moonchild Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:38 pm

Another concern that I have beyond all of this is that if she is with someone, she is having to complete dental school which doesn't leave much time to spend long weekends with her chosen one. That is the only thing that has made some of these relationships survive. If she chose JP, he is close enough that they could pull it off. But, if it's BenF or Ryan, it would be hard to pull off.

Also, from the beginning I thought Ryan was being set up as the next B, but with this negative stuff in the previews, it's all open again for me. Unless she chooses BenF, then maybe we could get a whole season of JP!!!
Funny thing is, I can't see JP with Chantal or Emily, so I initially thought that things happen for a reason. Now I don't know what I think anymore. What a waffler I am!

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