Re: Episode 4 - 6/13 - Discussion - Spoilers

by Guest Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:03 pm

moonchild wrote:I am sorry but I am on the JP downer wagon, too.

After watching the extended preview on Grapevine, I started to see that the JP edit is the Chantal/Bevin edit. Instant chemistry and attraction. Putting their feelings and emotions out there early on. The lead claiming that they are the one that make them feel the most comfortable. The one that....isn't chosen and is F2.

I keep asking the question, how are they going to sell this as a true romance after Ashley professed her love and affection for Bentley and not a second choice or default choice. JP has been front and center from the very beginning. Yes, there was chemistry, but the simple truth is that Ashley chose Bentley over JP. BenF on the other hand doesn't even show up in this story until after Bentley has already departed. He was never in competition with Bentley (or so they would have us believe) because he has been non-existent in the edit until after Bentley leaves. He might be her rebound guy but he isn't her default guy.

I luv, luv, luv JP and I hope I am wrong. But, for me, it's shaping up to be a JP F2 season.

So who if any others do you think could be the F1??

by Rosepetal Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:03 pm

I’m definitely looking forward to Ryan’s edit. The viewers saw him first out of the limo (even though he wasn’t), getting the first impression rose and apparently a fan favorite. Why did they highlight Ryan? In the promos we see previews of the other guys talking about him not being the same person with them as he is with Ashley. I think right or wrong he is going to be villain number two. TPTB are highlighting that Ashley’s first impressions are not always right. Can she see through this and pick the right guy. JMO. I will find out soon enough if I’m right or wrong.

by Guest Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:04 pm

Max64 wrote:
Gina wrote:I see alot of connection with Ryan and Ashley so far. Check out the fan vids section called "Kiss Me"and towards the end of the vid, those kisses with Ryan are intense. Only JP and Ryan have been kissed that passionately by her, imo. She's given Ryan several date roses, he's the only one she hugged after the harmless roast of the guys and said "sorry Ryan". If I was unspoiled, I would almost faint when he's leaves as F5, esp. if Ashley lets him go after their 1 on 1 and he is not leaving for anothe reason (like Coastal posted as an option)

ETA..Yes, I want to see more of Ash and Ben F. this week.

Gina, where are the fan videos you are talking about on this site or youtube?
Oh, and yes, definitely looking forward to Ames' date and seeing some of Benny Boy

Max...click on this link (on this site). Go towards the end of the "Kiss Me" video..back to back kisses of Ash with JP and Ash with Ryan. Intensity and hand placement grabbing their necks, are identicle and she can't seem to get enough of Ryan or JP when kissing them. But JP's 1 on 1 look more heated..I think Ryan could have been F1 or 2 at that point, but after her 1 on 1 it's now JP.

http://bachandbachettefans.forumotion.com/t126-bachelorette-7-fanvids

by moonchild Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:04 pm

Gina wrote:I see alot of connection with Ryan and Ashley so far. Check out the fan vids section called "Kiss Me"and towards the end of the vid, those kisses with Ryan are intense. Only JP and Ryan have been kissed that passionately by her, imo. She's given Ryan several date roses, he's the only one she hugged after the harmless roast of the guys and said "sorry Ryan". If I was unspoiled, I would almost faint when he's leaves as F5, esp. if Ashley lets him go after their 1 on 1 and he is not leaving for anothe reason (like Coastal posted as an option)

ETA..Yes, I want to see more of Ash and Ben F. this week.

On the extended preview on Grapevine, Ashley states that she has had the best kisses with JP of the guys that she has kissed so far. It will be interesting to see where that PI is in relation to when she is with BenF. I don't think that she would have said that if Ryan was really a contender at that point.

Does anyone know if JP or BenF have been spotted since filming was completed?

by chaslom4 Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:06 pm

moonchild wrote:
Gina wrote:I see alot of connection with Ryan and Ashley so far. Check out the fan vids section called "Kiss Me"and towards the end of the vid, those kisses with Ryan are intense. Only JP and Ryan have been kissed that passionately by her, imo. She's given Ryan several date roses, he's the only one she hugged after the harmless roast of the guys and said "sorry Ryan". If I was unspoiled, I would almost faint when he's leaves as F5, esp. if Ashley lets him go after their 1 on 1 and he is not leaving for anothe reason (like Coastal posted as an option)

ETA..Yes, I want to see more of Ash and Ben F. this week.

On the extended preview on Grapevine, Ashley states that she has had the best kisses with JP of the guys that she has kissed so far. It will be interesting to see where that PI is in relation to when she is with BenF. I don't think that she would have said that if Ryan was really a contender at that point.

Does anyone know if JP or BenF have been spotted since filming was completed?

Nothing from JP other than a tweet from someone who saw him in a coffee shop I think. I believe there has been some twitter activity from Ben regarding his business?? Also think I read that his FB had be activated again. no idea

by Guest Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:09 pm

Rosepetal wrote:I’m definitely looking forward to Ryan’s edit. The viewers saw him first out of the limo (even though he wasn’t), getting the first impression rose and apparently a fan favorite. Why did they highlight Ryan? In the promos we see previews of the other guys talking about him not being the same person with them as he is with Ashley. I think right or wrong he is going to be villain number two. TPTB are highlighting that Ashley’s first impressions are not always right. Can she see through this and pick the right guy. JMO. I will find out soon enough if I’m right or wrong.

You could not have put it better. There are good guys there she just have to settle down and think and look and ask the right questions and she will find the one.

by klarson79 Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:12 pm

This stuff is interesting to read, to say the least. We have all seen the same episodes, previews, videos, read the same stuff - but it's interesting how people's perceptions of what is happening/is going to happen is so different!

Will be interesting to see what happens. I personally don't think it can be anyone but JP, but I also don't believe Ryan has anything to do with Ashley's final choice (besides maybe putting doubt in the audience's head of what might happen...same with Bentley) and I just can't see Ben being THAT hidden and be the F1 unless TPTB are bound and determined to mess with everyone. BUT...anything can happen! I just want to see more of the F4...especially Constantine!

by Guest Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:12 pm

Ben F has tweets and articles promoting his winery which are recent.A friend of Ben's said Ben said he hoped being on the show would promote his winery. Ryan set up a website which includes alot about his company and his family with pictures. Constantine is back at his restaurant and inside is a huge banner that says he was on the bachelor and all the waiters are wearing roses on their lapels. lol

So far, I've heard nothing about Ames either.

JP has been silent, except for somone spotting him somewhere in NY. I forget where it was. sorry.

by mnmhughes Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:13 pm

reason wrote:
Rosepetal wrote:I’m definitely looking forward to Ryan’s edit. The viewers saw him first out of the limo (even though he wasn’t), getting the first impression rose and apparently a fan favorite. Why did they highlight Ryan? In the promos we see previews of the other guys talking about him not being the same person with them as he is with Ashley. I think right or wrong he is going to be villain number two. TPTB are highlighting that Ashley’s first impressions are not always right. Can she see through this and pick the right guy. JMO. I will find out soon enough if I’m right or wrong.

You could not have put it better. There are good guys there she just have to settle down and think and look and ask the right questions and she will find the one.

And that could include JP. No need to rule him out yet, just because we don't understand the edit.

by moonchild Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:13 pm

Coastal wrote:
moonchild wrote:I am sorry but I am on the JP downer wagon, too.

After watching the extended preview on Grapevine, I started to see that the JP edit is the Chantal/Bevin edit. Instant chemistry and attraction. Putting their feelings and emotions out there early on. The lead claiming that they are the one that make them feel the most comfortable. The one that....isn't chosen and is F2.

I keep asking the question, how are they going to sell this as a true romance after Ashley professed her love and affection for Bentley and not a second choice or default choice. JP has been front and center from the very beginning. Yes, there was chemistry, but the simple truth is that Ashley chose Bentley over JP. BenF on the other hand doesn't even show up in this story until after Bentley has already departed. He was never in competition with Bentley (or so they would have us believe) because he has been non-existent in the edit until after Bentley leaves. He might be her rebound guy but he isn't her default guy.

I luv, luv, luv JP and I hope I am wrong. But, for me, it's shaping up to be a JP F2 season.

So who if any others do you think could be the F1??

At this point, the only viable ones as possibles, are Ames, Constantine and BenF and only because we haven't seen anything with them. I liked Ryan, but all of this negative stuff in the previews is pointing against that. I think after the Bentley ordeal, Ashley is ready to cut anyone that she doesn't feel is there for her. Which starts leaving us with some slim pickin's!

by mnmhughes Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:14 pm

moonchild wrote:
Gina wrote:I see alot of connection with Ryan and Ashley so far. Check out the fan vids section called "Kiss Me"and towards the end of the vid, those kisses with Ryan are intense. Only JP and Ryan have been kissed that passionately by her, imo. She's given Ryan several date roses, he's the only one she hugged after the harmless roast of the guys and said "sorry Ryan". If I was unspoiled, I would almost faint when he's leaves as F5, esp. if Ashley lets him go after their 1 on 1 and he is not leaving for anothe reason (like Coastal posted as an option)

ETA..Yes, I want to see more of Ash and Ben F. this week.

On the extended preview on Grapevine, Ashley states that she has had the best kisses with JP of the guys that she has kissed so far. It will be interesting to see where that PI is in relation to when she is with BenF. I don't think that she would have said that if Ryan was really a contender at that point.

Does anyone know if JP or BenF have been spotted since filming was completed?

by cupcakes Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:14 pm

luvlady345 wrote:

I guess I am odd, I don't fall in love with a pairing because they spoiled to be the final1, I just like who I like....I liked Chantal before I knew she was the supposed final 1...Just like JP I liked him before I knew he was the supposed final1.....Just because the bachelor/ette picks someone other than who I like doesn't mean I have to like them, I just like who I like......

I'm the same way. I loved Reid and Jillian, Deanna and Graham, Bettina and Brad etc. None were winners but loved watching them. I think Rob and Ali were the only ones I have gotten right from the beginning lol

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