Episode 4 - 6/13 - Discussion - Spoilers

mnmhughes wrote:I love that this thread has more posts than last week's thread, and the episode hasn't even aired yet!

I think you will find that last weeks epi is in two different threads??

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Gina wrote:Good points, Bloomers. And even though I'm also a Ryan fan (JP too), the fact that she let Ryan go before the HTD's tells me she was not in love with him enough to do a 360 and pick him as F1 when he returns. He basically went out as F5...when has F5 ever turned into F1? Reid was F3, and Jill was so distraugh at the F3 letting him go RC that it seemed plausible when he came back, she woud pick him as F1 and not Ed. But unless it's totally scripted by MF and Ashley didn't want Ryan to leave as F5, I'm not buying he's F1.

The only plausible options are that either JP is F1 or Ben F. is F1. Ryan is not a part of the equation. After being warned about the guys that he's not sincere (whether that's true or not) and being let go on their 1-on-1 where there wasn't even a rose, no way is she going to take him back and get engaged to him.

So either TPTB are showing us the love story with JP (while throwing in lots of Bentley and Ryan drama to distract us) or Ben F. is the hidden F1.

The only thing we have that says that he was let go is RS..........what if RS is being completely fleisssed??

Okay, let's take another tactic -- who's to say RS isn't right? They've fleissed him twice in a row now, ruining his credibility (in the eyes of some). So even IF he has the right info this year, most people won't believe him. Why not just let him have the right info then? :Nod:
Even if Ryan somehow stays, I see nothing between him and Ashley to compel her to choose him. JMO.

Then Fleiss's editing tatics have completely done an absolute change that is out of the world considering his other seasons and their editing............No one in the history of this show has been this much in your face the final 1

I guess we'll just have to wait and see. All I know is that it's either JP, Ben, or no one. It's not going to be Ryan.

I guess we will have to wait to see..........Ryan is still very much in it and due to the fact that Fleiss's editing won't change as drastically as it needs to for JP to be the final 1, I think we will have some surprises yet to come.

mnmhughes wrote:

Gina wrote:Good points, Bloomers. And even though I'm also a Ryan fan (JP too), the fact that she let Ryan go before the HTD's tells me she was not in love with him enough to do a 360 and pick him as F1 when he returns. He basically went out as F5...when has F5 ever turned into F1? Reid was F3, and Jill was so distraugh at the F3 letting him go RC that it seemed plausible when he came back, she woud pick him as F1 and not Ed. But unless it's totally scripted by MF and Ashley didn't want Ryan to leave as F5, I'm not buying he's F1.

The only plausible options are that either JP is F1 or Ben F. is F1. Ryan is not a part of the equation. After being warned about the guys that he's not sincere (whether that's true or not) and being let go on their 1-on-1 where there wasn't even a rose, no way is she going to take him back and get engaged to him.

So either TPTB are showing us the love story with JP (while throwing in lots of Bentley and Ryan drama to distract us) or Ben F. is the hidden F1.

But to the unspoiled viewer, they think Ryan P is in the lead. If I were an unspoiled viewer I wouldn't see JP as the only one out there. William and Ben C have actually had more time with Ashley than JP has, and JP's date was only 5 minutes long, I'd say he's was jipped! The other guys stories are going to come on strong these next weeks, but I still think they need to establish a story for the F1 from the beginning.

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mnmhughes wrote:

Gina wrote:Good points, Bloomers. And even though I'm also a Ryan fan (JP too), the fact that she let Ryan go before the HTD's tells me she was not in love with him enough to do a 360 and pick him as F1 when he returns. He basically went out as F5...when has F5 ever turned into F1? Reid was F3, and Jill was so distraugh at the F3 letting him go RC that it seemed plausible when he came back, she woud pick him as F1 and not Ed. But unless it's totally scripted by MF and Ashley didn't want Ryan to leave as F5, I'm not buying he's F1.

The only plausible options are that either JP is F1 or Ben F. is F1. Ryan is not a part of the equation. After being warned about the guys that he's not sincere (whether that's true or not) and being let go on their 1-on-1 where there wasn't even a rose, no way is she going to take him back and get engaged to him.

So either TPTB are showing us the love story with JP (while throwing in lots of Bentley and Ryan drama to distract us) or Ben F. is the hidden F1.

But to the unspoiled viewer, they think Ryan P is in the lead. If I were an unspoiled viewer I wouldn't see JP as the only one out there. William and Ben C have actually had more time with Ashley than JP has, and JP's date was only 5 minutes long, I'd say he's was jipped! The other guys stories are going to come on strong these next weeks, but I still think they need to establish a story for the F1 from the beginning.

It was you are just not seeing the story fully yet. 99% hopefully 1% unsure until monday night.

I am actually looking forward to seeing Ash and Benny together. I really want to see how their chemistry is. There is a reason as to why she decided to take him so far, so I'm hoping on Monday they start showing us. :D

cupcakes wrote:I am actually looking forward to seeing Ash and Benny together. I really want to see how their chemistry is. There is a reason as to why she decided to take him so far, so I'm hoping on Monday they start showing us. :D

I totally agree cupcakes. I like Ben and I really want to see more of him. Especially since he apparently goes far with Ash.

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moonchild wrote:This is really a test. Can anyone tell me why my posts don't get posted?

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moonchild wrote:This is really a test. Can anyone tell me why my posts don't get posted?

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I see alot of connection with Ryan and Ashley so far. Check out the fan vids section called "Kiss Me"and towards the end of the vid, those kisses with Ryan are intense. Only JP and Ryan have been kissed that passionately by her, imo. She's given Ryan several date roses, he's the only one she hugged after the harmless roast of the guys and said "sorry Ryan". If I was unspoiled, I would almost faint when he's leaves as F5, esp. if Ashley lets him go after their 1 on 1 and he is not leaving for anothe reason (like Coastal posted as an option)

ETA..Yes, I want to see more of Ash and Ben F. this week.