Episode 12 - 7/22 - Bachelorette 8 - ATFR (Live) - Discussion

islandgirl56 wrote:Anybody watching the after party on ABC..Live

do you have a link?

Can I just say that I am super excited to have Jef coming here to NC!! So happy for the two of them.

I'm a tad behind. Did she give Arie an explanation on when her feelings changed or why she didn't pick him? Did she say she did fall in love with him too? I thought she said she always thought it would be Arie and her at the end. Too bad he didn't get the memo earlier that plans had changed. Although he loves Jef and Emily and is going to be respectful and sees they are happy, I can't help but wonder if he still things what they had was more? Maybe since he talks to them and sees them in person, but I agree with others who said the edit was wonky. I think it was Arie up until the last couple of episodes.

hawkku wrote:I'm a tad behind. Did she give Arie an explanation on when her feelings changed or why she didn't pick him? Did she say she did fall in love with him too? I thought she said she always thought it would be Arie and her at the end. Too bad he didn't get the memo earlier that plans had changed. Although he loves Jef and Emily and is going to be respectful and sees they are happy, I can't help but wonder if he still things what they had was more? Maybe since he talks to them and sees them in person, but I agree with others who said the edit was wonky. I think it was Arie up until the last couple of episodes.

I think we'll hear more once she does her interview rounds.

exfortis wrote:Left his journal on her doorstep and turned around and went home!!!

I thought that was sooooooo dumb. What if Lil Ricki had opened it... of course Arie never put Lil Ricki first anyway....IMO

hawkku wrote:I'm a tad behind. Did she give Arie an explanation on when her feelings changed or why she didn't pick him? Did she say she did fall in love with him too? I thought she said she always thought it would be Arie and her at the end. Too bad he didn't get the memo earlier that plans had changed. Although he loves Jef and Emily and is going to be respectful and sees they are happy, I can't help but wonder if he still things what they had was more? Maybe since he talks to them and sees them in person, but I agree with others who said the edit was wonky. I think it was Arie up until the last couple of episodes.

She said there was time when it was just Arie, but that changed and as time went on ( I think Prague was a gane changer, she fell hard for Jeff) she was more certain about Jef was her 'forever guy'. I'm paraphrasing, it was Live TV and I dont think she explinaed it well. Arie said watching it back he understood more and Jef has rang him a good lot and talked things through - thought that was really nice actualy.

Well, once again Arie carried the whole show on his shoulders. I did think the gift of the Curacao book with the stick figures was one of the best LCD gifts I've seen. This couple will have many mountains to climb relationship-wise. We'll see if he can handle her.

That was NOT dramatic, except for how genuine Arie is on camera, and the horrible blindside scene.

Looking back in hindsight, a very vanilla edition of the series. Never got convinced it was much more than a People Water promotion on the Groom side.

hawkku wrote:I'm a tad behind. Did she give Arie an explanation on when her feelings changed or why she didn't pick him? Did she say she did fall in love with him too? I thought she said she always thought it would be Arie and her at the end. Too bad he didn't get the memo earlier that plans had changed. Although he loves Jef and Emily and is going to be respectful and sees they are happy, I can't help but wonder if he still things what they had was more? Maybe since he talks to them and sees them in person, but I agree with others who said the edit was wonky. I think it was Arie up until the last couple of episodes.

She couldn't see a forever with Arie.. Em's a smart girl. She knew that all there was between her and Arie was passion... Not something to build forever on...

LoveDovez wrote:

exfortis wrote:Left his journal on her doorstep and turned around and went home!!!

I thought that was sooooooo dumb. What if Lil Ricki had opened it... of course Arie never put Lil Ricki first anyway....IMO

And I respectfully disagree: if Arie didn't think of Ricki first, he would've absolutely knocked on Em's door & insisted on talking to her. He knew the upset it would cause, & put his feelings aside & did the right thing. JMO.

Arie is a remarkably strong & decent guy - he deserves nothing but the best!!

Oh and - IF Ricki had found the package, I've no doubt she would've brought it to her mom.

jlccaz wrote:Well, once again Arie carried the whole show on his shoulders. I did think the gift of the Curacao book with the stick figures was one of the best LCD gifts I've seen. This couple will have many mountains to climb relationship-wise. We'll see if he can handle her.

That was NOT dramatic, except for how genuine Arie is on camera, and the horrible blindside scene.

Looking back in hindsight, a very vanilla edition of the series. Never got convinced it was much more than a People Water promotion on the Groom side.

That curacao book was hillarious. The single most pathetic gift I have ever seen on this show. I'm such a sap, usually I'm bawling when they show the lead getting the gifts on the final dates. This time I was LMAO.

Congratulations Jef, Emily, and Ricky! They are clearly in love! <3

The book gift was such a Jef thing to do. I loved watching them crack up over it.