Re: Episode 11 - 7/22 - Bachelorette 8 - FINALE - Thread #1

by NCGalBecca Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:16 pm

Oh the weekly interviews with the F3? There could be clues there. I thought they were done to build interest in the guys because the lead was soft ratings wise and they needed to get the ball rolling. As well as create some PR chaos around the season.

More than any clue that's been dropped all season, Jef's twitter session on Monday was most telling. It was so filled with the hubris of a winner. The stuff he was saying was so in your face that I can't imagine him not being the pick. Especially, since in many of the tweets, his company's brand is included and there's not a lot of upside to including it in a deception.

by shoepie Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:19 pm

Jeepers wrote:Lingering feelings ALWAYS applies to the F2 and the needed closure .. Every single season at the ATFR the lead and F2 have their chat .. CH always asks how they are feeling blah blah blah .. No different than any other season .. Including how the write up describes the ATFR as well

by Guest Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:22 pm

Hmm well Jeepers and shoepie as a always you have made good points and provided solid info for me to consider. I do still think the lingering feelings might be a little more than normal because of all the different outlets reporting similar scenarios regarding them etc. I just always feel like we're there is smoke there is fire or at min a spark

by gurlbrit Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:25 pm

NCGalBecca wrote:Oh the weekly interviews with the F3? There could be clues there. I thought they were done to build interest in the guys because the lead was soft ratings wise and they needed to get the ball rolling. As well as create some PR chaos around the season.

More than any clue that's been dropped all season, Jef's twitter session on Monday was most telling. It was so filled with the hubris of a winner. The stuff he was saying was so in your face that I can't imagine him not being the pick. Especially, since in many of the tweets, his company's brand is included and there's not a lot of upside to including it in a deception.

You make a very valid point about his company's brand being in a lot of tweets. I'm certain that the new CEO of People Water would be very unhappy with one Jef Holm if he perpetuated a lie.......

by luluvega Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:27 pm

Bloven wrote:Hmm well Jeepers and shoepie as a always you have made good points and provided solid info for me to consider. I do still think the lingering feelings might be a little more than normal because of all the different outlets reporting similar scenarios regarding them etc. I just always feel like we're there is smoke there is fire or at min a spark

Who else has reported this besides Wetpaint and RS? I like to read.

by shoepie Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:27 pm

Bloven wrote:Hmm well Jeepers and shoepie as a always you have made good points and provided solid info for me to consider. I do still think the lingering feelings might be a little more than normal because of all the different outlets reporting similar scenarios regarding them etc. I just always feel like we're there is smoke there is fire or at min a spark

All the outlets feed on each other. They gather what is out there, reword it and print it as fact. And some tabloids just make things up and without question another prints that too. It is all about selling mags or getting hits on their sites. We see this every season. Every single one.

by just logic Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:28 pm

Because of the 'lingering feelings', CH not saying 'romantic' in his description of the FRC and US magazine saying one of the men had "a moment of clarity" and it plays a "big role in the outcome". I'm thinking that there may be no proposal from Jef because he wants time for he and Ricki to get to know each other better and the actual proposal will be ATFR. It's Jef and Emily who have lingering feelings and it's not romantic because it's practical and the moment of clarity that plays a big role is Jef telling Emily he loves her and wants to propose but wants to get to know Ricki better and vice versa. He may present her with a ring - therefore the 'the leave the island as an egaged couple" but he doesn't want her to wear it until later. (which she can't do anyway).

by Piper61 Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:30 pm

gurlbrit wrote:
NCGalBecca wrote:Oh the weekly interviews with the F3? There could be clues there. I thought they were done to build interest in the guys because the lead was soft ratings wise and they needed to get the ball rolling. As well as create some PR chaos around the season.

More than any clue that's been dropped all season, Jef's twitter session on Monday was most telling. It was so filled with the hubris of a winner. The stuff he was saying was so in your face that I can't imagine him not being the pick. Especially, since in many of the tweets, his company's brand is included and there's not a lot of upside to including it in a deception.

You make a very valid point about his company's brand being in a lot of tweets. I'm certain that the new CEO of People Water would be very unhappy with one Jef Holm if he perpetuated a lie.......

I concur, excellent point.

by ironcat Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:33 pm

If they have a taped segment of Emily and the F2 meeting, or, more likely speaking via skype or on the phone, from back in May, that would be unusual, and not your typical ATFR. I do believe that this happened, and I think it will be more clear why it happened when we see the awkward disaster that will be Emily's attempt to dump him in Curacao. Not only won't it provide closure for her or him, but it probably won't provide closure for viewers either. I suspect that "the breakup, part II" to be aired on ATFR will provide the needed closure for everybody (except the die hard fans of the guy who was rejected who'll still believe he's "the one").

by shoepie Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:39 pm

just logic wrote:Because of the 'lingering feelings', CH not saying 'romantic' in his description of the FRC and US magazine saying one of the men had "a moment of clarity" and it plays a "big role in the outcome". I'm thinking that there may be no proposal from Jef because he wants time for he and Ricki to get to know each other better and the actual proposal will be ATFR. It's Jef and Emily who have lingering feelings and it's not romantic because it's practical and the moment of clarity that plays a big role is Jef telling Emily he loves her and wants to propose but wants to get to know Ricki better and vice versa. He may present her with a ring - therefore the 'the leave the island as an egaged couple" but he doesn't want her to wear it until later. (which she can't do anyway).

I believe the spoilers that say they left Curaco engaged. How this will play out with him meeting Ricki in the 2 hour finale is what I am looking forward to because it is the one thing I don't know! Hugesmile

The AFTER will be upbeat and probably an announcement of a wedding date.

by nutty1 Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:40 pm

shoepie wrote:
just logic wrote:Because of the 'lingering feelings', CH not saying 'romantic' in his description of the FRC and US magazine saying one of the men had "a moment of clarity" and it plays a "big role in the outcome". I'm thinking that there may be no proposal from Jef because he wants time for he and Ricki to get to know each other better and the actual proposal will be ATFR. It's Jef and Emily who have lingering feelings and it's not romantic because it's practical and the moment of clarity that plays a big role is Jef telling Emily he loves her and wants to propose but wants to get to know Ricki better and vice versa. He may present her with a ring - therefore the 'the leave the island as an egaged couple" but he doesn't want her to wear it until later. (which she can't do anyway).

I believe the spoilers that say they left Curaco engaged. How this will play out with him meeting Ricki in the 2 hour finale is what I am looking forward to because it is the one thing I don't know!

The AFTER will be upbeat and probably an announcement of a wedding date.

I agree. Too many probable meetings between Em and Jef to support a twist at the end!!

by Lily Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:40 pm

Jeepers wrote:Lingering feelings ALWAYS applies to the F2 and the needed closure .. Every single season at the ATFR the lead and F2 have their chat .. CH always asks how they are feeling blah blah blah .. No different than any other season .. Including how the write up describes the ATFR as well

But why use the word "bombshell ending". Has it been used often enough in previous ATFR write ups that it hardly means anything?

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