Re: Episode 11 - 7/22 - Bachelorette 8 - FINALE - Thread #1

[skitts]

So what do y'all think of RS posting what he knows today? What do y'all think went on between the two?

Jef's tweet about him having one regret and that we'll see what it is next week has me wondering if all this ties into a regret over the bromance not being strong anymore due to this post show contact business. I'm sure they wanted closure but I do not know if that's ever been done before? Anyone know? They've both say how close they were in the house but in more recent interviews it seems like they don't talk much anymore. No hard feelings between them, just not close. Which to me makes sense!! Can you imagine that trio at a get together!!! Akward much! Jef- "He dude you remember my fiance right.... oh thats right you made out with her for 10 weeks and it was " just that good " she had to "resolve" the feeling to kiss you one more time after I hit a knee. Weird, maybe that's why she akways asks me to grab her hair" Arie- ( licks lips) " yeah man, it was like no one else was I around, I still feel exactly how I felt on the show"( leans in for hello hug & cheek kiss). Jef" don't bro dont.... No hugs.... Just a hand shake man. Emily ( giggles and covers her face) " Back off, Back off"". Sorry .... I'm having too much fun. I'm 5 minutes away from busting out the old barbies!

Back to business:
Jef couldn't have been psyched to hear about " lingering" feelings between Arie and M! Not a confidence booster imo especially while having to watch her sexy smooches with him in which he also responded to a fan that he was " surprised to say the least" when asked if he was surprised to see Arie's kissing skills etc.

I had a totally different interpretation of the bolded.
When 1F said: "surprised to say the least", I felt he said that because RE never kissed him that way. So I guess there was more chemistry with RE and M than RE and 1F despite their bromance.

Ya think 1F's been doing some hair-grabbing smooches post show?

Couldn't hurt right! He might want to find himself a nice solid wall also! Based on his twitter he's been reading up on Christian Gray so maybe he's trying some new moves out. It's gotta be stuff after witnessing all that steam....

Victoria's Secret and 50 Shades of a Hipster...that would make for an interesting reality show if Radar is to be believed!

[2observe]

There was a lot of discussion about this when the description first came out and it was concluded that the thing was just poorly worded. Besides, they would never give away what would be a very controversial ending like that in the first press release of the season.

I think that it's exactly what they wanted. They gave it to us and we doubted it. That's perfect for tptb. But, it makes sense as to why we're not seeing any FRC pics. It will be a first for the Bachelorette to make their final decision at the ATFR, but not the Bachelor. Charlie did not make his F1 decision until the ATFR, and I think that it's going to be the same for Emily. So, it's very possible that the F1 spoiler is a fake spoiler, since it's very possible that she hasn't made her decision yet. As always, it's jmo.

What if..... And this is a BIG if so hear me out.... Arie leaves, Emily freaks, cries yada yada then ultimately convinces ( or tells herself if some like that term better), convinces herself that Arie must not have been the one because he got cold feet and left her hanging inturn making her think ( or realize if this word makes some happier), think, that Jef is the clear winner since Arie has shown now shown his hand. Jef proposes, Emily is happy and all is well. Post show they start filling each other in on what went down during filming now that they are allowed to talk openly and Emily starts throwing down some FYIs like" um just so you know Jef, Arie and I, um kissed.... a lot, like, that's mostly what we did, a lot. We talked too but then we kissed a lot... Um i might have moaned at one point... Ok ok maybe more.. you know what.. might not want to watch the show now that I think about it. Who knew! " This honesty mixed with the knowledge that Arie left early on his own made Jef say to M that maybe she needs to take some time and make sure there is no unfinished business with Arie and that he feels that for the future of the relationship and his comfort that at the end of the day she would still choose him but they both need to know for sure. ..... And this is what we learn at the AFTR along with her final answer!

BAM!!!!!!!! I should post my phone number on these!!! I bet MF would be call me off the hook for ideas! K- now I'm channeling Ryan so I'll stop now.

LOL, the only problem I have with your scenrio is that Arie is the one who was the most ready to propose. Imo, the one that would use more logic in their decision about proposing would be Jef. However, I do see Arie as the front man going into the MTP date because he's the "underdog" according to the episode description that I read.

[Hotmomma]

There was a lot of discussion about this when the description first came out and it was concluded that the thing was just poorly worded. Besides, they would never give away what would be a very controversial ending like that in the first press release of the season.

I think that it's exactly what they wanted. They gave it to us and we doubted it. That's perfect for tptb. But, it makes sense as to why we're not seeing any FRC pics. It will be a first for the Bachelorette to make their final decision at the ATFR, but not the Bachelor. Charlie did not make his F1 decision until the ATFR, and I think that it's going to be the same for Emily. So, it's very possible that the F1 spoiler is a fake spoiler, since it's very possible that she hasn't made her decision yet. As always, it's jmo.

I can see this happening...I believe Fleiss even said something about it being live like Charlie/Jen..but with a happier ending..

[pbmax]

So what do y'all think of RS posting what he knows today? What do y'all think went on between the two?

Jef's tweet about him having one regret and that we'll see what it is next week has me wondering if all this ties into a regret over the bromance not being strong anymore due to this post show contact business. I'm sure they wanted closure but I do not know if that's ever been done before? Anyone know? They've both say how close they were in the house but in more recent interviews it seems like they don't talk much anymore. No hard feelings between them, just not close. Which to me makes sense!! Can you imagine that trio at a get together!!! Akward much! Jef- "He dude you remember my fiance right.... oh thats right you made out with her for 10 weeks and it was " just that good " she had to "resolve" the feeling to kiss you one more time after I hit a knee. Weird, maybe that's why she akways asks me to grab her hair" Arie- ( licks lips) " yeah man, it was like no one else was I around, I still feel exactly how I felt on the show"( leans in for hello hug & cheek kiss). Jef" don't bro dont.... No hugs.... Just a hand shake man. Emily ( giggles and covers her face) " Back off, Back off"". Sorry .... I'm having too much fun. I'm 5 minutes away from busting out the old barbies!

Back to business:
Jef couldn't have been psyched to hear about " lingering" feelings between Arie and M! Not a confidence booster imo especially while having to watch her sexy smooches with him in which he also responded to a fan that he was " surprised to say the least" when asked if he was surprised to see Arie's kissing skills etc.

I had a totally different interpretation of the bolded.
When 1F said: "surprised to say the least", I felt he said that because RE never kissed him that way. So I guess there was more chemistry with RE and M than RE and 1F despite their bromance.

Ya think 1F's been doing some hair-grabbing smooches post show?

I don't think he has to because Emily isn't going anywhere. He can take his time.

He won't be taking his time with Emily because she's with Arie.

[jlccaz]

The only "bombshell" endings -- i.e., to garner 17.5 million viewers like Jason's ATFR did -- would involve an actual wedding (preposterous I hope) or a train wreck first two hours (*failed season type outcome) that is repaired with post show footage and live events. I doubt that, because she looked pretty darn happy during Premiere week, the week after the proposal. But who knows! Think Big!

[just logic]

The only "bombshell" endings -- i.e., to garner 17.5 million viewers like Jason's ATFR did -- would involve an actual wedding (preposterous I hope) or a train wreck first two hours (*failed season type outcome) that is repaired with post show footage and live events. I doubt that, because she looked pretty darn happy during Premiere week, the week after the proposal. But who knows! Think Big!

Yes, but in order to garner those huge rating they had to promote the show beforehand to let everyone know that something BIG AND UNUSUAL was happening. They seem to be trying to do somewhat the same here but without the shots of the black curtains,etc - which would be difficult because it's live. I don't think it would be a wedding (I hope it would not be) especially if RO has any kind of scoop (don't know what their accuracy in the past has been). I think it's that Arie will come back with his 'lingering feelings' and they'll have the 'emotional confrontation' and then the 'happy reunion'. Has the next lead ever been presented at an ATFR?

[jlccaz]

The only "bombshell" endings -- i.e., to garner 17.5 million viewers like Jason's ATFR did -- would involve an actual wedding (preposterous I hope) or a train wreck first two hours (*failed season type outcome) that is repaired with post show footage and live events. I doubt that, because she looked pretty darn happy during Premiere week, the week after the proposal. But who knows! Think Big!

Yes, but in order to garner those huge rating they had to promote the show beforehand to let everyone know that something BIG AND UNUSUAL was happening. They seem to be trying to do somewhat the same here but without the shots of the black curtains,etc - which would be difficult because it's live. I don't think it would be a wedding (I hope it would not be) especially if RO has any kind of scoop (don't know what their accuracy in the past has been). I think it's that Arie will come back with his 'lingering feelings' and they'll have the 'emotional confrontation' and then the 'happy reunion'. Has the next lead ever been presented at an ATFR?

Roberto shows up as Bombshell TV? No way.

[missmilano]

The only "bombshell" endings -- i.e., to garner 17.5 million viewers like Jason's ATFR did -- would involve an actual wedding (preposterous I hope) or a train wreck first two hours (*failed season type outcome) that is repaired with post show footage and live events. I doubt that, because she looked pretty darn happy during Premiere week, the week after the proposal. But who knows! Think Big!

As always, you are a voice of reason. I think they are just trying their best to get the ratings up as much as possible this season and there will probably be some "big" announcement like Emily and Ricki moving, a firm(ish) wedding date or announcing a Jash wedding. I don't think there will be a "bombshell" of the magnitude of Jason.

[Lily]

The only "bombshell" endings -- i.e., to garner 17.5 million viewers like Jason's ATFR did -- would involve an actual wedding (preposterous I hope) or a train wreck first two hours (*failed season type outcome) that is repaired with post show footage and live events. I doubt that, because she looked pretty darn happy during Premiere week, the week after the proposal. But who knows! Think Big!

Yes, but in order to garner those huge rating they had to promote the show beforehand to let everyone know that something BIG AND UNUSUAL was happening. They seem to be trying to do somewhat the same here but without the shots of the black curtains,etc - which would be difficult because it's live. I don't think it would be a wedding (I hope it would not be) especially if RO has any kind of scoop (don't know what their accuracy in the past has been). I think it's that Arie will come back with his 'lingering feelings' and they'll have the 'emotional confrontation' and then the 'happy reunion'. Has the next lead ever been presented at an ATFR?

F2 having lingering feelings and looking for closure has been the norm as far as ATFR is concerned. Bombshell ending and live ATFR don't sound like mere hype for the show. Now I'm really curious :shocked!:

[chaslom4]

Did I just read RS wrong, because I thought he said both Emily and Arie had lingering feelings?

[nutty1]

Did I just read RS wrong, because I thought he said both Emily and Arie had lingering feelings?

Lingering feelings could be guilt, friendship, etc, not always love. I can see Em feeling bad, like she did with Sean last night.

Also, remember the hype about the episode with Arie & Cassie....turned out to be nothing at all!!

[Guest]

Did I just read RS wrong, because I thought he said both Emily and Arie had lingering feelings?

He did say that. But he claimed he didn't know what lingering feelings actually meant but whatever it was - need for closure, sadness, anger, full on regret, etc. - it seems to not have changed anything nor is it likely to. I don't what to believe about it but he is right that if something major happened already, Arie and Jef would not be as cordial as they are to each other. Maybe something will happen at the ATFR but I doubt it.

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