Re: Episode 11 - 7/22 - Bachelorette 8 - FINALE - Thread #1

[ironcat]

I don't think the casual unspoiled viewer (who makes up the bulk of the audience, and is who the preview is targeted at) would walk away from seeing it (one time only, and not repeatedly, analyzing it frame by frame and noticing what Emily is wearing on her wrist) thinking anything other than that Emily isn't going to choose anybody; to me, that was the clear, if misleading, implication, and whole point of showing/editing the clip that way. Which leads me to believe that the opposite is true, and she sends one guy home early, while the other proposes.

[NCGalBecca]

IA, on the Bachelorette Facebook page, many of the unspoiled are kind of torn about the ending. There are random posts that she picks Jef per RS but there doesn't seem to be a widespread belief that the spoiler is correct as it has been in the past.

Many do think it will be a no pick or a bad ending at the ATFR. There is a big contingency that thinks Sean is going to make some kind of return or than Emily changes her mind and asks him back.

It's interesting to me that they opted to promote a doom and gloom ending after promising the big love story initially. Something tells me that once they measure the dissatisfied feedback that the MTA will have more positive previews as well as the promos going into the final week.

[proudmommy50810]

I don't think the casual unspoiled viewer (who makes up the bulk of the audience, and is who the preview is targeted at) would walk away from seeing it (one time only, and not repeatedly, analyzing it frame by frame and noticing what Emily is wearing on her wrist) thinking anything other than that Emily isn't going to choose anybody; to me, that was the clear, if misleading, implication, and whole point of showing/editing the clip that way. Which leads me to believe that the opposite is true, and she sends one guy home early, while the other proposes.

My unspoiled friend texted me immediately after the previews and said, "So she picks nobody???" Then she begged me to tell her the spoilers. I also told her that we're speculating she sends Arie home before the FRC. She hadn't even thought of that based on the previews.

[Jeepers]

If she lets Arie go the am of the FRC - why not just wait? At least with Chris she let him go before the LCD.

I say letting him go early will be a cop out and a huge disappointment to me as a viewer. I've not enjoyed this season, not getting the full meal deal at the end will just be another let down.

Some have said in the LCD SC thread they thought she was shown crying at the botanical gardens and that she lets him go before the date. It looks like they slapped a little teak chair for her to sit and cry on. Doesnt look like a bench or something that's supposed to be there. Anyways, I don't know. It is implied in the talk with Chris that she feels she is betraying them both so that would tell me she lets one go early. I agree with Anders if it's the am of the FRC might has well stop the boy before he proposes and let him go.

Don't they usually have the LCD before they MTP?

I rewatched the previews last night because of the speculation she sent Arie home first and pulled these together. The previews are definitely trying to tell us she lets someone go before the FRC (and I'm always skeptical of being told what's going to happen - it rarely turns out that way, unless there's a twist). Anyway - I pulled these together and they all appear to be the same - white tank, same necklace, while talking to Chris, standing crying and sitting on her own - the only diff I see is the brown band on her wrist in the first cap

what do you think?

Of note .. Her hair is parted on the right and sweeps down over her left eye in the top two pics and parted on the left in the rest and a bit messier also .. Which tells me 2 different times or they are flipped. Her usual part is on the left

Its possible the flipped some of the screencaps they have done that to us before. However, the bracelet, no bracelet thing is weird. Maybe she went back to her room after crying to freshen up and put it on then?

It is all the same outfit and appears to be in the same spot/area.

I will have to look more at home tonight vs. sneaking a peak here at work.

Finally something to slueth!

Also note that in the top two pictures if it's her right-hand over her face there are no rings on that hand in the lower pictures she has rings on the right hand and no bracelet

[anders]

yeah - the top two are def flipped - it's the brown hairband around her wrist that's missing in all the caps except those ones - why?

[just logic]

yeah - the top two are def flipped - it's the brown hairband around her wrist that's missing in all the caps except those ones - why?

Because if her hair is held back in a ponytail it can't fall forward to hide the tears or lack of them.

[anders]

then why isn't she wearing the band in all the caps and not just the top 2?

[blhstock]

The previews are definitely trying to tell us she lets someone go before the FRC (and I'm always skeptical of being told what's going to happen - it rarely turns out that way, unless there's a twist).

I actually thought the previews were telling us she chose no one due to her parents telling her to be careful. Those scenes coupled together with her breakdown were meant to lead people to believe she chose no one, which obviously means that's not true.

The tell for me was CH saying "you feel like you're betraying both." It wouldn't be a "betrayal" to continue dating both, IMO. It would be an extension of the status quo. Betrayal would be leading one or both of them on.

I still think she makes one leave early but I'm willing to hesitate on who she sends home. I know where I'm leaning but I'm open to sleuthing (if there anything left to sleuth).

Ya'll might also want to look at all of the screen caps of the orange dress. I'm pretty sure what has assumed to be Arie's MTP might actually be his LCD. In the picture of her with the family there are no extra chairs so I don't think that is a scene shot before or after his meeting them. There's also a shot of her in that dress, lying on a chaise kissing him. So, unless you think they were making out either before or after he met with them, its a good guess its his LCD.

I think she goes on the first LCD with Jef and the second with Arie. After Arie's LCD she then goes to see the family where she tells them she's in love with two men and we get the awesomenesss of gruff, realistic dad telling her there's no such thing.

[Pattycake92]

She is sitting not lying on the chase. She wouldn't wear that same outfit twice.

[anders]

these area all the same - all MTP, not LCD

[deedreamer]

then why isn't she wearing the band in all the caps and not just the top 2?

I don't expect that Emily went directly from talking to Chris to saying gooodbye to Arie...I am assuming that there would mostly likely be a period of time between to let Emily get her composure and get the camera crew ready....during that period Emily may have pulled her hair up away from her neck in the heat and then later just before meeting Arie, pulled the band out of her hair for filming. At least that is how I picture it as a possibliity.

[lawla]

I noticed when Chris asked if she felt like she was betraying them both, she didn't answer. I think they filmed Chris saying that later and edited it in. When she says "how do you even start a conv like that" I think she is referring to sending arie home early. The whole preview so obviously edited that it was embarrassing.

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