Re: Bachelorette 8 - Media - Discussion - Thread #4

[Guest]

Bottled water can't always be avoided .. The town I live in has deep well water .. Great water .. But the next town over has horrendous water and it also has to be treated .. Yukkk .. I would give up water .. Or resort to bottled water for sure

I think all municipal water is treated, isn't it? I'm not being snarky - really thought that to be the case.

In my personal case, we live in the country with well water as our only source. Straight out of the well would be yucky, that's why we have a water softener and a water filter - so it's more potable. Here's an interesting article about bottled water coming from municipal sources and other questionable sources for those who are interested. If you're not interested, please scroll on.

http://www.rd.com/health/rethink-what-you-drink/

Sorry to be so off-topic. I shall get off my soapbox now.

Bottled water is NOT an eco friendly product, period. Your graphic tells the story perfectly. Bottled water companies like Coke (Dasani) and Pepsi (Aquafina) don't care. The ones that want shelf space at Trader Joe's or Whole Foods type stores do care, but the degradable bottles (which IMPROVE but don't RESOLVE the issue) are very expensive.

There are infinite superior more efficient more carbon friendly means to drill wells in third world countries, which is an extremely laudable goal.

My younger son attends a private, highly progressive middle school. Waste free lunches, etc. They are not allowed to bring bottled water to school. They are trained to use refillable stainless steel water bottles. That's the eco-friendly DOGMA these days.

So what "Cody" was talking about is a challenge for start up bottled water companies. Their target market -- affluent liberals -- if they are smart about ecology at all knows that the "right" answer is to avoid bottled water, and donate money to drill wells.

The Grand Canyon has banned sales of bottled water inside the park. Utah national parks are trying to do the same. Colleges are doing this as well. http://www.heraldextra.com/news/national/ivy-colleges-shun-bottled-water-in-a-jab-at-billion/article_d6f0b720-43fa-59e8-bbe8-693a33d45363.html

And wow, am I now off topic or what.

I find it odd that nothing has been said about Coke, Pepsi ect being in plastic bottles and have been forever.. I wonder if people think when they reach for the 2 liter bottle of Coke. "Oh no this is the same as bottle water"????

Neither Coke, nor Pepsi promote themselves as 'eco-friendly', pseudo-charitable corporations... even thought the charitable work done by BOTH dwarfs the efforts of People Water, as laudable as PW's efforts are.

Research the Coca-Cola company's water efforts, for example, you may be surprised.

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Bottled water can't always be avoided .. The town I live in has deep well water .. Great water .. But the next town over has horrendous water and it also has to be treated .. Yukkk .. I would give up water .. Or resort to bottled water for sure

I think all municipal water is treated, isn't it? I'm not being snarky - really thought that to be the case.

In my personal case, we live in the country with well water as our only source. Straight out of the well would be yucky, that's why we have a water softener and a water filter - so it's more potable. Here's an interesting article about bottled water coming from municipal sources and other questionable sources for those who are interested. If you're not interested, please scroll on.

http://www.rd.com/health/rethink-what-you-drink/

Sorry to be so off-topic. I shall get off my soapbox now.

Bottled water is NOT an eco friendly product, period. Your graphic tells the story perfectly. Bottled water companies like Coke (Dasani) and Pepsi (Aquafina) don't care. The ones that want shelf space at Trader Joe's or Whole Foods type stores do care, but the degradable bottles (which IMPROVE but don't RESOLVE the issue) are very expensive.

There are infinite superior more efficient more carbon friendly means to drill wells in third world countries, which is an extremely laudable goal.

My younger son attends a private, highly progressive middle school. Waste free lunches, etc. They are not allowed to bring bottled water to school. They are trained to use refillable stainless steel water bottles. That's the eco-friendly DOGMA these days.

So what "Cody" was talking about is a challenge for start up bottled water companies. Their target market -- affluent liberals -- if they are smart about ecology at all knows that the "right" answer is to avoid bottled water, and donate money to drill wells.

The Grand Canyon has banned sales of bottled water inside the park. Utah national parks are trying to do the same. Colleges are doing this as well. http://www.heraldextra.com/news/national/ivy-colleges-shun-bottled-water-in-a-jab-at-billion/article_d6f0b720-43fa-59e8-bbe8-693a33d45363.html

And wow, am I now off topic or what.

I find it odd that nothing has been said about Coke, Pepsi ect being in plastic bottles and have been forever.. I wonder if people think when they reach for the 2 liter bottle of Coke. "Oh no this is the same as bottle water"????

Neither Coke, nor Pepsi promote themselves as 'eco-friendly', pseudo-charitable corporations... even thought the charitable work done by BOTH dwarfs the efforts of People Water, as laudable as PW's efforts are.

Research the Coca-Cola company's water efforts, for example, you may be surprised.

I'm totally crushing on RichLP today.

[stuckinsc]

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Neither Coke, nor Pepsi promote themselves as 'eco-friendly', pseudo-charitable corporations... even thought the charitable work done by BOTH dwarfs the efforts of People Water, as laudable as PW's efforts are.

Research the Coca-Cola company's water efforts, for example, you may be surprised.

Hey Rich, I live in the land of Coca-Cola and went to Emory for graduate school where practically every other building is named after the family that started Coke. They not only do good things for water, but support education, as well as the near and dear to my heart biomedical research.

But I am still impressed with little guys like PW trying to make a difference. My bff and I joke that we do what we do and get paid very little money for it because of some crazy stupid desire to help humanity.

[Guest]

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Neither Coke, nor Pepsi promote themselves as 'eco-friendly', pseudo-charitable corporations... even thought the charitable work done by BOTH dwarfs the efforts of People Water, as laudable as PW's efforts are.

Research the Coca-Cola company's water efforts, for example, you may be surprised.

Hey Rich, I live in the land of Coca-Cola and went to Emory for graduate school where practically every other building is named after the family that started Coke. They not only do good things for water, but support education, as well as the near and dear to my heart biomedical research.

But I am still impressed with little guys like PW trying to make a difference. My bff and I joke that we do what we do and get paid very little money for it because of some crazy stupid desire to help humanity.

That's why I included the phrase, "as laudable as PW's efforts are." As are yours, I'm sure!

[noobsleuth]

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Neither Coke, nor Pepsi promote themselves as 'eco-friendly', pseudo-charitable corporations... even thought the charitable work done by BOTH dwarfs the efforts of People Water, as laudable as PW's efforts are.

Research the Coca-Cola company's water efforts, for example, you may be surprised.

Hey Rich, I live in the land of Coca-Cola and went to Emory for graduate school where practically every other building is named after the family that started Coke. They not only do good things for water, but support education, as well as the near and dear to my heart biomedical research.

But I am still impressed with little guys like PW trying to make a difference. My bff and I joke that we do what we do and get paid very little money for it because of some crazy stupid desire to help humanity.

You went to Emory?!? *sigh* I fell hook, line, and sinker for one of those smarty pants studs over spring break one year. It was magical - thanks for the memories!

[stuckinsc]

Small world, noobsleuth. Quite a few cuties at Emory. Where were you spring breaking? I grew up in Florida too. BTW, I love Arie too, and Jef. I bet they are a lot of fun together.

Thank you, Rich. Have you stopped partying from the Heat win yet? I was torn between cheering for the Heat (I love LeBron) and the Thunder and KD (as a good Longhorn girl). Kinda of glad the Heat got this one, but next year maybe the Thunder.

[Guest]

Small world, noobsleuth. Quite a few cuties at Emory. Where were you spring breaking? I grew up in Florida too. BTW, I love Arie too, and Jef. I bet they are a lot of fun together.

Thank you, Rich. Have you stopped partying from the Heat win yet? I was torn between cheering for the Heat (I love LeBron) and the Thunder and KD (as a good Longhorn girl). Kinda of glad the Heat got this one, but next year maybe the Thunder.

Yeah... the party's over... back in the Marlins funk... that'll hold me over till I transition to the TB Bucs funk later in the summer... which I hope will be a lot better than last year... lol

The Thunder are young and extremely talented... they'll be back! (I was a Magic fan for close to 20 years, it's taken me a while to get on the Heat train, but I'm a big believer in supporting the home team! I can even almost tolerate the Dolphins the last couple years...lol)

[stuckinsc]

Rich, the Dolphins really? What about the bitterness of the perfect season (yes Dolphin fans still love to bring it up as the last 15-20 years have been nothing to talk about). Sadly enough, I listened to a lecture today on Achilles tendon injuries and was insulted that there was not picture of Dan Marino, cost him the end of a great career.

I am sorry about the Marlins, Braves aren't much better if that helps. You could try the Rays, at least they make life exciting...

My nephew is a rabid Magic fan, and I like them okay, but honestly until DH puts on his big boy pants and just makes a decision the whole situation is hard to watch.

I had adopted the Spurs from living in Texas so long, but I am thinking I will switch to the Thunder more permanently. KD is a joy to watch and seems like a pretty decent guy too. And no, I still can't support the Hawks, too many bad years of management screwing the team over to get over it yet.

[Guest]

Rich, the Dolphins really? What about the bitterness of the perfect season (yes Dolphin fans still love to bring it up as the last 15-20 years have been nothing to talk about). Sadly enough, I listened to a lecture today on Achilles tendon injuries and was insulted that there was not picture of Dan Marino, cost him the end of a great career.

I am sorry about the Marlins, Braves aren't much better if that helps. You could try the Rays, at least they make life exciting...

My nephew is a rabid Magic fan, and I like them okay, but honestly until DH puts on his big boy pants and just makes a decision the whole situation is hard to watch.

I had adopted the Spurs from living in Texas so long, but I am thinking I will switch to the Thunder more permanently. KD is a joy to watch and seems like a pretty decent guy too. And no, I still can't support the Hawks, too many bad years of management screwing the team over to get over it yet.

Stuck I need to put up my Gig Em Aggies avi

[stuckinsc]

Stuck I need to put up my Gig Em Aggies avi

Yeah, I am going to miss you guys. I have always disliked OU and Arkansas much more than A&M. My university I am at now is being renamed and a lot people want to rename it A&M. Would kind of make me go full circle.

I wish y'all the best of luck in the SEC, those people make Texans look even more easy going. I mean levels of crazy you have never seen. Rapid fans who never even attended a university, let alone the one they will die for.

[Guest]

Stuck I need to put up my Gig Em Aggies avi

Yeah, I am going to miss you guys. I have always disliked OU and Arkansas much more than A&M. My university I am at now is being renamed and a lot people want to rename it A&M. Would kind of make me go full circle.

I wish y'all the best of luck in the SEC, those people make Texans look even more easy going. I mean levels of crazy you have never seen. Rapid fans who never even attended a university, let alone the one they will die for.

It will be different for sure. I guess we will have to change our fight song now.

[momoftrips]

I seperated the quotes for each guy so its easier to read.

The Final Four Timeline

Welcome to the Final Four Timeline. Follow the love stories of the four Bachelors. Emily started with 25 guys vying for her heart and now only four remain.

Arie

Episode 1
Upon arriving at the mansion, Arie thinks Emily is stunning. Later during the cocktail party, Arie tells Emily that he's a racecar driver. He's relieved to learn that Emily is ok with his profession.

Episode 2
Arie and Sean did not receive date cards this week. Emily did plan to give them both roses despite not having dates with them.

Episode 3
Emily and Arie headed to Dollywood for their one-on-one date. Emily wanted to see how Arie would react being out of his element. They attend a private concert with Dolly Parton and Dolly mentions that she couldn't tell this was their first date. Emily tries to pull a quick joke on Arie involving the rose but she can't keep the joke going on for long because she likes him too much.

Episode 4
Arie, Chris, Jef and Sean joined the other bachelors on a group date with Emily. They were split into two sailing teams: red and yellow. Jef and Arie were part of the yellow team that won the race and secured extra time with Emily. Jef and Emily have a moment at the beach in Bermuda. Emily wanted a kiss but Jef was still opening up. Jef received the rose for the group date.

Episode 5
Chris and Arie attend a group date with Emily and the other Bachelors. They were tasked with a Shakespearian play. Arie is very nervous about acting and is assigned the role of nurse. He does well as the nurse to Emily's delight. This was also the date that Emily apprached Kalon about his comments. Needless to say, the confrontation kills the mood of the date and Emily does not hand out a rose.

Episode 6
All four men attend the same group date with Emily in Dubrovnik, Croatia. After watching an exclusive screening of Brave, the men compete in the highland games to win over Emily. Sean shows off his muscles as he dominates the games. However, Chris shows his courage by volunteering to go first in the log toss and challenging Doug in a head-to-head competition. Following the games, Emily chooses to give the Bravery cup and group date rose to Chris.

Episode 7
Arie and Emily had a one-on-one date this week in Prague. Emily learned that Arie had briefly dated one of the producers on the show years ago. Throughout the date she makes references about honesty to see if Arie will come clean. However, Arie had no idea what she's truly driving at. Off-camera, the three people involved in this situation all agree that the relationship between Arie and the producer have absolutely no bearing on what's happening right now. Arie even gets up the courage to tell Emily that he loves her.

Jef

Episode 1
Jef arrived to the mansion on a skateboard. Once he got to the doorstep, Jef tossed the skateboard into the bush and created quite an impression on Emily.

Episode 2
Chris and Jef both go on the group date with Emily. They participate in a variety show with The Muppets. Emily feels that Jef was a bit hidden amongst the other Bachelors. Jef and Emily find time during the date's after party, where she hands him the group date rose.

Episode 3
Jef and Sean go on a group date with Emily during episode 3. They are surprised to learn that the date will consist of playing with kids in the playground and taking a test administered by Emily's friends. During the Emily's friends test, Sean ends up shirtless with one of the ladies sitting on his back as he does pushups. Needless to say, Sean passed with flying colors. He also secured the group date rose.

Episode 4
Arie, Chris, Jef and Sean joined the other bachelors on a group date with Emily. They were split into two sailing teams: red and yellow. Jef and Arie were part of the yellow team that won the race and secured extra time with Emily. Jef and Emily have a moment at the beach in Bermuda. Emily wanted a kiss but Jef was still opening up. Jef received the rose for the group date.

Episode 5
Jef received a one-on-one date invitation from Emily in London. They start their date off at an etiquette lesson. Since neither one of them were enjoying the lesson, they decide to play ditch the lesson and go to the bar. Later in the date, Emily and Jef find themselves having dinner atop the London Eye. Jef is about to make his move when the operator signals their time is over. After disembarking the London Eye, Jef is able to have his first kiss with Emily by the bridge.

Episode 6
All four men attend the same group date with Emily in Dubrovnik, Croatia. After watching an exclusive screening of Brave, the men compete in the highland games to win over Emily. Sean shows off his muscles as he dominates the games. However, Chris shows his courage by volunteering to go first in the log toss and challenging Doug in a head-to-head competition. Following the games, Emily chooses to give the Bravery cup and group date rose to Chris.

Episode 7
Jef received a one-on-one date with Emily in Prague. Their date started off with a trip to a marionette shop. Emily tells us that although many of the other bachelors think Jef is too young and not ready to be a Dad, she believes he's more than ready to be Dad because he's a big kid at heart. After purchasing marionettes that represent themselves, Jef makes another trip back to the store to buy a marionette, one of Ricki, to complete the family. Emily and Jef find themselves in an elegant library where they're able to act out the events of their love story. Jef is able to express his feelings through the marionette. Jef also tells Emily about the girl he broke up with because his parents didn't like her. This puts pressure on Emily as she will meet Jef's family on the hometown date.

Sean

Episode 1
Sean was the first to arrive to the mansion. He was also the first one to interrupt Kalon's time with Emily.

Episode 2
Arie and Sean did not receive date cards this week. Emily did plan to give them both roses despite not having dates with them.

Episode 3
Jef and Sean go on a group date with Emily during episode 3. They are surprised to learn that the date will consist of playing with kids in the playground and taking a test administered by Emily's friends. During the Emily's friends test, Sean ends up shirtless with one of the ladies sitting on his back as he does pushups. Needless to say, Sean passed with flying colors. He also secured the group date rose.

Episode 4
Arie, Chris, Jef and Sean joined the other bachelors on a group date with Emily. They were split into two sailing teams: red and yellow. Jef and Arie were part of the yellow team that won the race and secured extra time with Emily. Jef and Emily have a moment at the beach in Bermuda. Emily wanted a kiss but Jef was still opening up. Jef received the rose for the group date.

Epidose 5
Sean received an invitation for a one-on-one date in London this week. Sean and Emily enjoy a day in the city, where Sean even conjures up the courage to talk about love in Speaker's Corner. They conclude their date with dinner in the Tower of London.

Episode 6
All four men attend the same group date with Emily in Dubrovnik, Croatia. After watching an exclusive screening of Brave, the men compete in the highland games to win over Emily. Sean shows off his muscles as he dominates the games. However, Chris shows his courage by volunteering to go first in the log toss and challenging Doug in a head-to-head competition. Following the games, Emily chooses to give the Bravery cup and group date rose to Chris.

Episode 7
Sean was the second bachelor to seek extra time with Emily this season. After John returned from his one-on-one date with Emily, Sean left the hotel room to find Emily. After shouting her name up and down the streets of Prague, Sean was able to find her. Sean could tell Emily was happy to see him because she was beaming with excitement and had a smile from ear to ear.
Sean received an invitation to the group date with Chris and Doug. After Doug is sent home on the group date, the date becomes a two-on-one date. Emily handed Sean the rose on the group date and made him the first bachelor in Prague to receive a rose and secure a hometown date.

Chris

Episode 1
On the first night that Chris met Emily, he presented her with two bobble heads: one to represent him and another to represent her.

Episode 2
Chris and Jef both go on the group date with Emily. They participate in a variety show with The Muppets. Emily feels that Jef was a bit hidden amongst the other Bachelors. Jef and Emily find time during the date's after party, where she hands him the group date rose.

Episode 3
Chris gets his first one-on-one date of the season. They embark on the "Danger Date," where Chris and Emily literally walking on the side of the building. Emily is shocked to find out how young Chris is but he assures her that he may be young but he's ready to start a family. After dinner on top of the building, they dance the night away at a small Luke Bryan concert in the city.

Episode 4
Arie, Chris, Jef and Sean joined the other bachelors on a group date with Emily. They were split into two sailing teams: red and yellow. Jef and Arie were part of the yellow team that won the race and secured extra time with Emily. Jef and Emily have a moment at the beach in Bermuda. Emily wanted a kiss but Jef was still opening up. Jef received the rose for the group date.

Episode 5
Chris and Arie attend a group date with Emily and the other Bachelors. They were tasked with a Shakespearian play. Arie is very nervous about acting and is assigned the role of nurse. He does well as the nurse to Emily's delight. This was also the date that Emily apprached Kalon about his comments. Needless to say, the confrontation kills the mood of the date and Emily does not hand out a rose.

Episode 6
All four men attend the same group date with Emily in Dubrovnik, Croatia. After watching an exclusive screening of Brave, the men compete in the highland games to win over Emily. Sean shows off his muscles as he dominates the games. However, Chris shows his courage by volunteering to go first in the log toss and challenging Doug in a head-to-head competition. Following the games, Emily chooses to give the Bravery cup and group date rose to Chris.

Episode 7
Chris had a rough week in Prague. Chris really hoped to receive a one-on-one date this week but is very distraught over his group date invite. Chris attends the group date with Sean, Doug and Emily. They arrive at a 13th century Castle where they're allowed walk around and discover all the different rooms. During his one-on-one time with Emily, Chris tells Emily about his frustration about not receiving a one-on-one date this week.

After the incident and a lot of reflection, Chris wanted to speak with Emily at the cocktail party to apologize for his outburst at the castle. When Emily calls off the cocktail party, Chris is even more flustered with the situation. Emily only has one more rose left to give at the Rose Ceremony when Chris interrupts the ceremony for a chance to speak with Emily. Emily grants him his wish and leaves to chat with Chris. Chris apologizes for not being respectful of their time during the group date and tells how much he believes in their relationship. The last ditch effort pays off when Emily hands him the last rose at the Rose Ceremony.

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