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Post by rc49ers Sat Jun 30, 2012 1:12 am

The reason i believed Seans room was real , because when my son lived at home it was a booby trap i almost broke my neck every time i went in to his room , my son did not want me to clean his room

i did it once and he got upset because he said he couldn' find anything ,

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Post by hooked4 Sat Jun 30, 2012 1:13 am

These are going to be 4 of the BEST HTDs in a while! The producers did a great job to keep us guessing/worried/concerned about how the visits went, there is no doubt all will be revealed and there will be 4 fantastic HTD left on our plate!
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Post by rc49ers Sat Jun 30, 2012 1:15 am

is their a way to delete a double post , i hit save a couple of times and it posted twice .


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Post by Shelby Sat Jun 30, 2012 1:18 am

rc49ers wrote:is their a way to delete a double post , i hit save a couple of times and it posted twice .

not when people post after you.

just go back, delete the text and put a dot or say double post deleted


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Post by LoveDovez Sat Jun 30, 2012 1:19 am

just logic wrote:I'm quite sure that all of the htd's went well after the fact. I'm sure Arie's family came off as loving and kind by the time it was all over. I still don't think it was right to make a guest feel uncomfortable. I really wish now I wasn't going away tomorrow for 5 days because I would like to see this all play out. Perhaps there's an explanation that I would find understandable maybe even cute. I guess I'll find out on Thursday when I get home and can watch it. At the end of the day - it really doesn't make a huge difference to me at all. I'm not Emily, I don't know how she thinks/feels and I wasn't there.




I'm sorry you have to wait to watch it, Logic. : (
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Post by LoveDovez Sat Jun 30, 2012 1:27 am

rc49ers wrote:The reason i believed Seans room was real , because when my son lived at home it was a booby trap i almost broke my neck every time i went in to his room , my son did not want me to clean his room

i did it once and he got upset because he said he couldn' find anything ,

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My grandson has lived with me since he was a Freshman in high school and he has always been a neat freak Not OCD but really clean and neat.I really learned to appreciate how he kept his room because my step grandson that's about 5 years older is totally a different story. His room should have come with a warning sign and he didn't mind me cleaning it at all while the other one was like NO don't I have everything where I want it. LOLOL BOYS : ) The younger one even did his own laundry because he wanted it done a certain way. The older one couldn't have cared less. : ) So I loved Sean's room ... giggling
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Post by Nativenewyorker Sat Jun 30, 2012 1:32 am

Love_Me wrote:
nutty1 wrote:You know what I cannot believe?? That anyone believes those previews!!! I'd bet a million bucks all HTD's went very well!!!

I agree and give up trying to explain that is the case. :greenman:

Love_Me,

Thank you for coming here and reminding us all of your info that all the HTD's went well!

I appreciate it very much! Nice to know.

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Post by Bullwinkle Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:25 am

Enough about the video - I liked the "proposal" pink dress. Are those pictures posted somewhere?
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Post by NeonRose Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:28 am

Bullwinkle wrote:Enough about the video - I liked the "proposal" pink dress. Are those pictures posted somewhere?

I think she had that dress on a date with Joe.. scratch
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Post by ironcat Sat Jun 30, 2012 1:25 pm

I'm sure all the HTDs went well when all was said and done. I think all three of the "favorites" being shown in the previews as having obstacles, and the only seemingly "perfect" date being the one with the guy we know Emily cares little about, should be a clue that much of the "drama" was set up by the producers.

Regarding the "language barrier", as Arie and all his siblings are obviously fluent in Dutch, it probably indicates that the language routinely spoken in the home growing up was Dutch, which isn't always the case with parents who emigrate to the US. I personally would find it wonderful to marry somebody with this background, and not only have the opportunity to learn another language myself, but know that my future children will most likely grow up bilingual, which IMO, will make it easier for them to learn even more languages in the future. To me, this would be an advantage, but I have no idea if Emily feels the same way, or would routinely feel out of place and resentful of being at family gatherings where a lot of Dutch was spoken, and she would most probably be encouraged to learn the language and "broaden" her horizons in order to feel more comfortable. I do think that how she reacts to the situation, if we even get an accurate picture of it, or if editing distorts it, would give a clue to how she feels about things, and whether she views it as a positive or a negative. I also think that the mixed reaction on the board is not only influenced by whether or not someone is an Arie fan/detractor/apologist, but how they would feel if they were in Emily's shoes themselves (which is no doubt influenced by their own experiences with, and attitudes towards, the issue at hand).


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Post by Guest Sat Jun 30, 2012 1:27 pm

ironcat wrote:I'm sure all the HTDs went well when all was said and done. I think all three of the "favorites" being shown in the previews as having obstacles, and the only seemingly "perfect" date being the one with the guy we know Emily cares little about, should be a clue that much of the "drama" was set up by the producers.

Regarding the "language barrier", as Arie and all his siblings are obviously fluent in Dutch, it probably indicates that the language routinely spoken in the home growing up was Dutch, which isn't always the case with parents who emigrate to the US. I personally would find it wonderful to marry somebody with this background, and not only have the opportunity to learn another language myself, but know that my future children will most likely grow up bilingual, which IMO, will make it easier for them to learn even more languages in the future. To me, this would be an advantage, but I have no idea if Emily feels the same way, or would routinely feel out of place and resentful of being at family gatherings where a lot of Dutch was spoken, and she would most probably be encouraged to learn the language and "broaden" her horizons. I do think that how she reacts to the situation, if we even get an accurate picture of it, or if editing distorts it, would give a clue to how she feels about things, and whether she views it as a positive or a negative. I also think that the mixed reaction on the board is not only influenced by whether or not someone is an Arie fan/detractor/apologist, but how they would feel if they were in Emily's shoes themselves (which is no doubt influenced by their own experiences with, and attitudes towards, the issue at hand).

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Post by veg_out Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:00 pm

LoveDovez wrote:
veg_out wrote:The behavior of both Emily and Arie during that scene offers a clue that Arie and his family were strongly encouraged to engage in this conversation, excluding Emily.

Maybe they wanted to see her reaction, but I largely think they're unstitching them one by one.


I can't see where they felt they HAD to do this. Veg, say you had a daughter in Em's place would you have wanted some family to do her this way and please take your liking Arie out of the equation here while thinking about this..

I don't personalize the show's situations mostly because they aren't real. They stage or script situations that evoke a reaction based on the insights gleaned from extensive psychological evaluations--that's a proven fact. The lead or characters' reactions really are the only parts that are 75% real. They know the insecurities of everyone there, including their lead, and they set up the interactions to play on those insecurities. Hence the storyboards.

I once sat next to a producer during a flight to Phoenix. He filmed a reality show for a smaller network, so I asked him if anything was real. He told me that everything was staged; that a producer is in the various characters' ears each day directing them, "Today, you are going to pick a fight when you're on the date. When asked if something's wrong, deny it." I saw it play out with Ben. The producers convinced him that Ashley was in love with him. Look at what they did to Ashley with Bentley. They are doing the same here. Emily is massively insecure and they are working her over. In the end, it's a TV show that's built on drama and raw emotion. If someone makes it out of the show in love, it's a bonus.

For whatever reason, the show didn't want Emily with Arie. They set up enough obstacles, including this one which would largely be read by Southern Belle Emily as rude, and knew it would add to the topple of Emrie. They also capitalized on the insecurity she felt with Arie to pivot her fully towards Jef for a very specific reason. ETA: If they succeeded in the end in keeping her and Arie apart, that's TBD.

P.S. I am a Ryan fan first and foremost.


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