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Post by Love_Me Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:48 am

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haapa245 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9wrV-OfBgf8

Oh My Gosh! Thank you so very much! I love them together :) Jef trying to hold back bursting out in laughter, "hmm yeah, we'll get back to you.." & Emily "Don't call us, we'll call you!" haha! and Jef "I'll have my people call your people..." too cute for words! He is so calm, cool & collected, so confident...soft spoken but super secure in himself :) I have to be honest, Emily never appealed to me on Brad's season...I am happy & thrilled to say she won me over on her season...love how she is handling all situations, her demeanor, her questions to the guys, her candid approach, etc...such a beauty inside & out! Truly loving & admiring her :) Her top guys up to know, are great...top 3 is one of the best on the show thus far :) Jef is pure heart!!
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Post by anders Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:08 am

One thing about positioning is that the end spots are almost always 'safe spots' and usually go to two of the F3. I think the only season I've seen this be an acception is when Shawtel was sent home after HTDs. She was on an end.

and in comparing the F4 lineups - the person leaving was almost always second from the left. The only seasons I've seen this as an acception was PLo's season when Agnese was second from right and Lisa was in the elimmed spot and Shawntel.



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Post by Piper61 Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:43 am

Love_Me wrote:
Trishb1960 wrote:
haapa245 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9wrV-OfBgf8

Oh My Gosh! Thank you so very much! I love them together :) Jef trying to hold back bursting out in laughter, "hmm yeah, we'll get back to you.." & Emily "Don't call us, we'll call you!" haha! and Jef "I'll have my people call your people..." too cute for words! He is so calm, cool & collected, so confident...soft spoken but super secure in himself :) I have to be honest, Emily never appealed to me on Brad's season...I am happy & thrilled to say she won me over on her season...love how she is handling all situations, her demeanor, her questions to the guys, her candid approach, etc...such a beauty inside & out! Truly loving & admiring her :) Her top guys up to know, are great...top 3 is one of the best on the show thus far :) Jef is pure heart!!
Couldn't agree with you more, Love!
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Post by Guest Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:57 am

it's probably just best to watch the video since there are tidbits like Sean eating 30 eggs a day :puke: but I included the summary

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http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20604496,00.html?xid=rss-topheadlines




Ever wonder how The Bachelorette remembers all those names at the first rose ceremony, what goes on off-camera at the mansion, or whether Emily Maynard actually drinks at her cocktail parties?

We decided to find out from the man who knows best, Bachelor and Bachelorette host Chris Harrison, when he stopped by our offices. Luckily, he was happy to fill us in on the behind-the-scenes details.

"One of the great mysteries is how do the roses stay on at the rose ceremonies," Harrison jokes to PEOPLE of the men's boutinnieres. Turns out, they're outfitted with strong magnets to secure them to the guy's lapels – and to save the Bachelorette from sticking herself with pins every week.

As for memorizing all of those names, the Bachelors and Bachelorettes don't have any help. They "do it themselves," says Harrison, and cocktail parties literally go "all night. Most of the time, we finish and the sun's coming up."

Not that Maynard was in danger of getting tipsy.

"Emily didn't drink much," says Harrison. "Maybe she didn't drink at all that night. Then the contestants take their cues from [the Bachelors and Bachelorettes]. With Emily, everybody was really on their best behavior."

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Post by Piper61 Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:17 am

anders wrote:One thing about positioning is that the end spots are almost always 'safe spots' and usually go to two of the F3. I think the only season I've seen this be an acception is when Shawtel was sent home after HTDs. She was on an end.

and in comparing the F4 lineups - the person leaving was almost always second from the left. The only seasons I've seen this as an acception was PLo's season when Agnese was second from right and Lisa was in the elimmed spot and Shawntel.

I love the information, JBF's as well. Being new to the board, and boards like this in general, I never knew all of that RC positioning stuff. Well, looks like for next week's RC, positioning is according to plan. Thanks!
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Post by Piper61 Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:19 am

nd4reality wrote:Could Ems season mirror Ashleys (from the line ups) ? hmmmm
I hope not, but do you know something that prompts the question??
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Post by shoepie Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:27 am

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Post by anders Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:29 am

Piper61 wrote:
anders wrote:One thing about positioning is that the end spots are almost always 'safe spots' and usually go to two of the F3. I think the only season I've seen this be an acception is when Shawtel was sent home after HTDs. She was on an end.

and in comparing the F4 lineups - the person leaving was almost always second from the left. The only seasons I've seen this as an acception was PLo's season when Agnese was second from right and Lisa was in the elimmed spot and Shawntel.

I love the information, JBF's as well. Being new to the board, and boards like this in general, I never knew all of that RC positioning stuff. Well, looks like for next week's RC, positioning is according to plan. Thanks!

there is an SC for next week's RC on the board somwhere, it goes:

Jef, John, Chris, Arie - with Sean on the end with a rose.

so Jef and Arie are in safe spots and are two of the F3.


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Post by shoepie Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:31 am

seton wrote:it's probably just best to watch the video since there are tidbits like Sean eating 30 eggs a day :puke: but I included the summary

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http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20604496,00.html?xid=rss-topheadlines




Ever wonder how The Bachelorette remembers all those names at the first rose ceremony, what goes on off-camera at the mansion, or whether Emily Maynard actually drinks at her cocktail parties?

We decided to find out from the man who knows best, Bachelor and Bachelorette host Chris Harrison, when he stopped by our offices. Luckily, he was happy to fill us in on the behind-the-scenes details.

"One of the great mysteries is how do the roses stay on at the rose ceremonies," Harrison jokes to PEOPLE of the men's boutinnieres. Turns out, they're outfitted with strong magnets to secure them to the guy's lapels – and to save the Bachelorette from sticking herself with pins every week.

As for memorizing all of those names, the Bachelors and Bachelorettes don't have any help. They "do it themselves," says Harrison, and cocktail parties literally go "all night. Most of the time, we finish and the sun's coming up."

Not that Maynard was in danger of getting tipsy.

"Emily didn't drink much," says Harrison. "Maybe she didn't drink at all that night. Then the contestants take their cues from [the Bachelors and Bachelorettes]. With Emily, everybody was really on their best behavior."

I believe Deanna. She said production gives you 3 names at a time during the first RC. Since they set the order this makes sense. No one can remember 16 names in order after a cocktail party that ends at dawn. Come on Chris. With social media involved and relaxed communication rules you just cannot get away with these silly statements anymore. Sheeeesh.
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Post by Piper61 Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:37 am

anders wrote:
Piper61 wrote:
anders wrote:One thing about positioning is that the end spots are almost always 'safe spots' and usually go to two of the F3. I think the only season I've seen this be an acception is when Shawtel was sent home after HTDs. She was on an end.

and in comparing the F4 lineups - the person leaving was almost always second from the left. The only seasons I've seen this as an acception was PLo's season when Agnese was second from right and Lisa was in the elimmed spot and Shawntel.

I love the information, JBF's as well. Being new to the board, and boards like this in general, I never knew all of that RC positioning stuff. Well, looks like for next week's RC, positioning is according to plan. Thanks!

there is an SC for next week's RC on the board somwhere, it goes:

Jef, John, Chris, Arie - with Sean on the end with a rose.

so Jef and Arie are in safe spots and are two of the F3.
So it seems!
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Post by JBF Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:47 am

OK... one more for the road and we can stick STRICTLY to videos from here on out.. ha ha!

anders wrote:One thing about positioning is that the end spots are almost always 'safe spots' and usually go to two of the F3. I think the only season I've seen this be an acception is when Shawtel was sent home after HTDs. She was on an end.

and in comparing the F4 lineups - the person leaving was almost always second from the left. The only seasons I've seen this as an acception was PLo's season when Agnese was second from right and Lisa was in the elimmed spot and Shawntel.

Yup. Cookie cutter ain't they? giggling

You also gotta stay away from the center... ha ha! Well... Chris was center in one of this season's line-ups and he makes F4. Also Courtney was center in two ceremonies I think. This is probably because Rule #2 (I guess) came into play: you have to be kept far apart from your chief rivals so that it is harder for you to see the lead make gooey eyes (or not) at your rival.

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I pulled together the RC lineups that I took one season for Bloomers. These caps pertain ONLY to the Bachelorette. Sometimes, Bloomers compared both.

Deanna's season:
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F4 but F1 Graham, F5 Twilley, F1 but F4 Jesse , F5 Sean, F2 but F3 Jason, and F3 but F2 Jeremy

Yeah, Bachelor and Bachelorette are so different... and Ben Flajnik was on cruise control most of his season with Courtney popping all over the line-ups as he kept debating her status.

Graham probably was Top Dawg here. Deanna's season was also a little confusing, but you probably nailed the "current" and "final" positions here.

I guess... heck, we can't get inside the Princess Mind here.

Jill's season:
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(missing, F1) Ed, F5 Stag, F4 Wes, F5 Jesse, F3 Reid, and F2 Kiptyn

I think Mike Stag and Jesse left here, so if Eddie moves in next to Mike, that puts him in the "dumping arena" you suggested anders.

They did keep Reid far apart from both Ed and Wes a lot, but not so much Kippy... except here. Jillie's season had a lot of "shuffling" of positions though. Spain's lineup had Ed, Wes (going), Kippy and Reid. These final four setups usually put the top 2 at each end. Only Jillie was ssssoooooo confused between The Volcano and Soy Grande that the old FORT was a battlefield determining who had the lead.

Ali's season:
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F3 Frank, F5 Ty, F4 Kirk, F1 Roberto, F2 Chris

This line-up is confusing except that Frankie is kept far apart from Roberto and Chris here. I think because the other two guys had a "gentlemen's agreement" and were ultimately OK to carry on the show regardless who "won the girl", production was a bit sloppy with the way they positioned those two. Poor Ty and Kirkie. Kirkie was an early frontrunner and did nothing wrong. She just couldn't take him to Tahiti with Roberto in the picture. She felt safer and "more friends than lovers" with Frankie and Chris.

Ashley's season:
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F3 Dino, F5 Lucas, F4 Ames, F2 Ben, F1 JP

Dino is actually F2 here, replacing Mister Sunshine who was dumped on his date. JP was having a "bad bad bad week" so Ashley was cutting his biggest competitors right away: Ryan and Lucas... then Ames. In that way, they could still play Fiji jungle gym without JP worrying too much how much nookie the other guys got. Nevermind the "lack of physical-ness" and water heater talk. Rocketship Ryan was always her second favorite after Willie left. She did NOT just say "RY, you can't stay here in Fiji" when he popped in to say "Hi". Instead she vibrated like a pinball machine and said "I gotta think about this".

Ben replaced Dino the next ceremony since the former got his restaurant promoted on hometown and no longer had any use for this silly show. Had Ashley got it HER way, my guess is that she would have forced Benny Boy out, following Dino, and kept Mister Sunshine after he arrived. Yet Ben was sssoooooo gullible enough to propose in Fiji that PRODUCTION had to have him for Dramatic Reasons and got her to ditch Mister Sunshine SIX... yes six!!!!... days after he arrived. That scene with Chrystie and the family is a howl. She hardly even LOOKS at Benny Boy and quickly breaks out in doggie talk ("Hey Boooo!") just so she won't be giving him cold dagger looks!

Emily's season:
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Jef is standing in the F3 spot per the last two Bachelorette seasons. He's in the F1 spot per Deanna and Jill's season (Ed is missing from that cap). Arie is standing in the F3 spot from Deanna and Jill's seasons, Roberto (F1)'s spot, and Ben's F2 spot. Sean is standing in the F2 spot of all aforementioned seasons except Ashley's. Sean could be standing in the F1 spot like JP.

I understand that some don't put weight on these lineups, but they usually are informative. That second from the right spot seems to be a major wild card in Bachelorette seasons. Jef was either F3 or F1 at this point based on the RC lineups for what it's worth.

Bloomers, if you're out there, feel free to correct any errors!

Yeah, she would have a lot to say about these. The fact that Sean and Arie are often in the back row in the earlier line-ups as "polar opposites" suggest that Fleiss could care less whether they were successful open mouthed kissers and gave Emily the Big O or not. They were staying as "producer picks" regardless, thanks to the "race-car & physical romantic" and "hunky & founded on faith" edits they needed for Emily's STORY. Jef and Chris were the "real deals" for her at this stage, although you can see from the body language that she is essentually stringing poor Chris along for the ride. Those scenes in the movie theater are so awkward. She wanted to cop a feel with Jefie as Chris tried to with her.
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Post by just logic Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:55 am

The other screencaps that Bloomers always analyized and explained were the M&G photo of all the guys (the promotional photo if you will) plus the photos of the toast at the end of the rose ceremonies - I did notice that in the promo picture Jef is front and centre but Arie and Sean are towards the back, not sure what that means.


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